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06-01-2007, 10:46 PM

My desktop at home is running Ubuntu and it's so much better then winblows.

I refuse to upgrade to Vista... every new version is just more of a memory and resource hog filled with errors.

There is no reason to switch to Vista. The OS doesn't have any features we need other then DX10, which doesn't matter until games support it. Hardware and software apps support is not great and the integrated drm sucks

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06-01-2007, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by Ice

My desktop at home is running Ubuntu and it's so much better then winblows.

I refuse to upgrade to Vista... every new version is just more of a memory and resource hog filled with errors.

There is no reason to switch to Vista. The OS doesn't have any features we need other then DX10, which doesn't matter until games support it. Hardware and software apps support is not great and the integrated drm sucks

Yes, Ubuntu is a very nice operating system but may I suggest using gentoo or freebsd much better operating systems

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06-01-2007, 11:12 PM

ubuntu is very groovy, I've been playing with it since Dapper

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06-02-2007, 05:13 AM

UBUNTU is great. Easy to install. Easy to maintain.

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06-02-2007, 05:16 AM

dell is going to sell machines with ubuntu
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06-02-2007, 05:20 AM

Does Ubuntu works with adult webmaster softwares like Dreamweaver, CuteFTP etc.?
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06-02-2007, 05:33 AM

Ubuntu is alright for people new to Linux but has become a rather bloated distro. I prefer FreeBSD w/ XFCE, (FreeBSD is NOT Linux), but if I had to choose a Linux for my desktop I would probably choose Zenwalk.

Sony, no - not natively, but many Windows programs can be run with a package called wine. Also, there are tons of open source programs available for every task imaginable - and they are often better than their Windows counterparts.
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06-02-2007, 05:34 AM

Quanta Plus = Dreamweaver
gFTP = CuteFTP
there are Apps in linux to do the equivilent.
Plenty of them.
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06-02-2007, 05:40 AM

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06-02-2007, 05:43 AM

yeah... I have tried it on my brother's pc. Looks really pimp!

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06-02-2007, 05:54 AM

yeah, and it's 100% absolutely free!

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06-02-2007, 05:55 AM

i run vista and i love it.

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06-02-2007, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by Fris

i run vista and i love it.

and Bill Gates luvs your asshole too!
he says you are tight.
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06-02-2007, 06:14 AM

have a desktop
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06-02-2007, 06:51 AM

os x is awesome too! I switched a couple of months ago
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06-02-2007, 06:58 AM

i refuse to use anything that does not support statsremote, dreamweaver and all the other stuff i use daily
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06-02-2007, 07:00 AM

if microsoft had any brains in their head they would have kept xp going and just sold upgrades to it.
they are pissing people off with this discontinue support for xp.
now people are jumping ship for other operating systems.
if you visit the linux support forums you will see a lot of people who left windows just because of this screwing microsoft done to them.
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06-02-2007, 07:04 AM

is there a way that any windows bases apps runs on linux OS?

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06-02-2007, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by endsofttech

is there a way that any windows bases apps runs on linux OS?

yes. use an app called wine, that will let you run most windows apps.
also you can make your machine dual boot. that way the machine only boots so far and stops and asks you if you want windows or linux. grub is most commonly used for dual boot.

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06-02-2007, 07:31 AM

ice is it faster?
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06-02-2007, 07:35 AM

ubuntu is the aol of linux, but it's a nice operating system.

i use windows for photoshop, flash, visual basic, etc, so i don't run linux very often anymore.

www.vmware.com (free) lets you run windows inside of ubuntu, but it's awful if you have graphic design work to accomplish.

if you really want to jump on the ubuntu bandwagon, dual boot so you can use windows also.

unless you don't really need anything on windows, if that's the case, just wipe your drive and install.

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but i'm accustom to winows software, so fuck it
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06-02-2007, 07:37 AM

also, if you're a linux newbie, you'll want automatix

www.getautomatix.com

automatically downloads and installs any type of software you'll need

and you can emulate windows programs in linux with "WINE" - but they run pretty crappy, don't expect to emulate photoshop
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06-02-2007, 08:56 AM

I ran Linux as my main PC for a couple of years but that was a long time ago and there were things I couldn't do on it back then that I need to do on a daily basis.

I may buy one as a second PC but I also need a mac for testing.

Thanks for the info people!
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06-02-2007, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by ClubAdultDesign

and you can emulate windows programs in linux with "WINE" - but they run pretty crappy, don't expect to emulate photoshop

I have Dreamweaver and Photoshop running on Linux and they run well. No lagging, no bugs, no BS. They run clean and smooth, just like they did on XP.
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06-02-2007, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Ice

My desktop at home is running Ubuntu and it's so much better then winblows.

I refuse to upgrade to Vista... every new version is just more of a memory and resource hog filled with errors.

There is no reason to switch to Vista. The OS doesn't have any features we need other then DX10, which doesn't matter until games support it. Hardware and software apps support is not great and the integrated drm sucks

I had a dual boot on my system, Windows/Ubuntu for quite awhile. Then one night I went to bed and my system was running fine. Woke up the next morning to a complete nightmare. Some virus slipped through the cracks and caused all kinds of hell. I couldn't even boot back into Windows. Lost all kinds of data. It was just hell. After that mess, I've been 100% Ubuntu.

Every program that I use on a daily basis, except one - (Advance Submitter), I have running on Linux. No way in hell am I ever switching my main machine back to Windows.
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06-02-2007, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Lycanthrope

Sony, no - not natively, but many Windows programs can be run with a package called wine. Also, there are tons of open source programs available for every task imaginable - and they are often better than their Windows counterparts.

See this is why despite being FREE Linux will never become popular. People buy a computer and they expect thing to work. The average person is ignorant of computers anyways and face it Linux even in it's most dumbed down form is too complicated for them. No one is going to want to search for
open source" anything. Telling them Windows and all MS products suck anyways is not going to get them to switch. Once they make a Linux version that work with programs people already have and is as easy to use for most people then it might have a chance. You think since it's "open source" and they have tens of thousands of geeks working on this thing that they could have done this by now.
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06-02-2007, 12:05 PM

they did. it is called Package Manager. it lists thousands of apps you just pick what you want and click install.
very complicated.
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06-02-2007, 12:23 PM

WINE is the killer app for Linux, it's quite buggy right now, but give it another year and it will rock.
If you're not comfortable with Ubuntu's interface, you can try Kubuntu which looks more like Windows.
The only thing that's stopping me right now from switching completely is WINE, but it's getting pretty good recently, I bet in a few months we will be able to run Photoshop CS2 out of the box. Just give it some time

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06-02-2007, 12:30 PM

I had it with XP SP2 last week. I had to format/update etc for 30 hours this week to make it work

I'm switching to Mac Os X this summer. I will be only using Windows when it's really necessary. The time to switch to another OS has come
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06-02-2007, 12:30 PM

I use Kubunto on my laptop's, wich is just the KDE version since im used to that interface. But still use XP on our workstations since there is only limited drivers avalible certified to the hardware we use. Im planning to give my mother a new PC with Ubunto on, because there is everything you need there, and i dont see why I should spend 125,- dollars on a XP/vista licens when all she ever does is check mail and browse

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06-02-2007, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by sumphatpimp

Quanta Plus = Dreamweaver
gFTP = CuteFTP
there are Apps in linux to do the equivilent.
Plenty of them.

is Quanta Plus much nicer than NVU?

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06-02-2007, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by sumphatpimp

they did. it is called Package Manager. it lists thousands of apps you just pick what you want and click install.
very complicated.

We're talking about the AVERAGE user. I would hazzard a guess that the average GFYer is more adept at computers than the average computer user. Not everyone is a geek. People want to go to a store buy a computer and it's works.
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06-02-2007, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by Stomped

WINE is the killer app for Linux, it's quite buggy right now, but give it another year and it will rock.
If you're not comfortable with Ubuntu's interface, you can try Kubuntu which looks more like Windows.
The only thing that's stopping me right now from switching completely is WINE, but it's getting pretty good recently, I bet in a few months we will be able to run Photoshop CS2 out of the box. Just give it some time

That's another porblem with Linux, too mnay versions. Peole about about Vista and it ahs what 5 versions. Ther are like 20 version of linux. Agree on ONE version make sure programs for windows can work on it and you'll have a winner. With 100,00 geek nerds working on it should take about a month to do.
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06-02-2007, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by TheJimmy

is Quanta Plus much nicer than NVU?

I never used NVU so I don't know.
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06-02-2007, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by GatorB

We're talking about the AVERAGE user. I would hazzard a guess that the average GFYer is more adept at computers than the average computer user. Not everyone is a geek. People want to go to a store buy a computer and it's works.

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I doubt it.

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06-02-2007, 04:43 PM

I notice a host offering Ubuntu on their dedicated servers, is it ok for this? Any limitations to it for this purpose vs a different Linux distribution?
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06-02-2007, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by sumphatpimp

dell is going to sell machines with ubuntu

They started selling them last Thursday

http://www.hotubuntunews.com/blog_15.shtml

This is great news for desktop linux!

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06-02-2007, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by GatorB

That's another porblem with Linux, too mnay versions. Peole about about Vista and it ahs what 5 versions. Ther are like 20 version of linux. Agree on ONE version make sure programs for windows can work on it and you'll have a winner. With 100,00 geek nerds working on it should take about a month to do.

You're a tool! Actually there are HUNDREDS of flavors of linux distros ...

You obviously don't understand the concept behind open source, and would much rather be raped and pillaged paying for software that often does not work the way it should ...

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06-02-2007, 05:00 PM

Ubuntu is great! I used to use RedHat back in '99s then tried mandrake, used Slack for over 3 years and finally switched to Ubuntu which is definitely the best 2.6.20 kernel in the latest version of Ubuntu is just awesome and pretty stable.

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06-02-2007, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by Stomped

WINE is the killer app for Linux, it's quite buggy right now, but give it another year and it will rock.
If you're not comfortable with Ubuntu's interface, you can try Kubuntu which looks more like Windows.
The only thing that's stopping me right now from switching completely is WINE, but it's getting pretty good recently, I bet in a few months we will be able to run Photoshop CS2 out of the box. Just give it some time

Google how to make your Photoshop CS2 "portable" (as if going to put it on a USB key) ...

Portable CS2 installs via WINE effortlessly and works perfectly!

I've been using CS2 as well as Dreamweaver 8 in Ubuntu for months now

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06-02-2007, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by Stomped

WINE is the killer app for Linux, it's quite buggy right now, but give it another year and it will rock.
If you're not comfortable with Ubuntu's interface, you can try Kubuntu which looks more like Windows.
The only thing that's stopping me right now from switching completely is WINE, but it's getting pretty good recently, I bet in a few months we will be able to run Photoshop CS2 out of the box. Just give it some time

Lol you act like Wine just came out or something wtf... I wont tell you how long , but its been in development since the early to mid 90's...
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06-02-2007, 05:13 PM

I just installed (portable) Illustrator CS2 -- and it works fine!

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06-02-2007, 05:17 PM

IE6 SP1 is another app worth loading in WINE, so you can see how webpages will render to the 75% of the world who don't know any better (plus Steve Balmer's children who are not allowed to use Firefox, or own an iPod ...)

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06-02-2007, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

Lol you act like Wine just came out or something wtf... I wont tell you how long , but its been in development since the early to mid 90's...

I actually know it's from the mid 90's...

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06-02-2007, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by split_joel

may I suggest using gentoo or freebsd much better operating systems

Uh yeah because the average user is going to put freebsd on their desktop
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06-02-2007, 05:49 PM

The only thing I still use windows for is video editing ... Linux still has a bit to go in this area IMHO

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06-02-2007, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by GatorB

See this is why despite being FREE Linux will never become popular. People buy a computer and they expect thing to work.

OMFG!! You do not even realize the quagmire you've opened here ...

This is EXACTLY why linux is gaining ground every day!!

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06-02-2007, 06:52 PM

I've never heard of Ubuntu maybe I should try it out.

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06-02-2007, 07:01 PM

I have been content with XP. Fuck vista for now...

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06-02-2007, 07:25 PM

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