Are we seeing the beginnings of the proverbial "wall" coming down in the Middle East?
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No, because the Iron curtain coming down in Eastern Europe was about replacing an evil overbearing state machine with freedom and democracy (of course the suckers just ended up trading in the Soviet Union for the EU socialist superstate). The current wave of protests in the arab world is about replacing relatively secular and westernised regimes with Islamofascist governments who have the support of the vicious, retarded 'arab street' who like nothing better than raping uncovered blonde girls and screaming death to Israel.
The muslim brotherhood of Egypt have a saying : one man, one vote, one time.
So, no, I don't think the comparison is valid, despite what you read in the dipshit liberal media.Comment
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Now that's what I call fair and balanced.No, because the Iron curtain coming down in Eastern Europe was about replacing an evil overbearing state machine with freedom and democracy (of course the suckers just ended up trading in the Soviet Union for the EU socialist superstate). The current wave of protests in the arab world is about replacing relatively secular and westernised regimes with Islamofascist governments who have the support of the vicious, retarded 'arab street' who like nothing better than raping uncovered blonde girls and screaming death to Israel.
The muslim brotherhood of Egypt have a saying : one man, one vote, one time.
So, no, I don't think the comparison is valid, despite what you read in the dipshit liberal media.
Don't pick any sides now.Comment
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The West has a vested interest in the Status Quo. A real Democracy might be the worse outcome.
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What if they use their oil to exert power on the West to meet their demands?
Their first demand might be getting US troops off their lands, the second might be stopping the West backing Israel. The third might be a price hike. The fourth might be to abandon the $ as the currency to buy oil.
All voted for by the Democratic choices of the people.
Or would it be best to ignore their democratic wishes and invade them?
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I'd have moved completely out of the region and away to another continent 30 years ago Paul. But then again I have the sense to know and accept the fact that Israel isn't going anywhere. That's a given. So knowing that, I can also deduce that if there is any chance of having peace in the ME then it's a pretty safe bet that Israel's muslim neighbors are going to have do exactly that --- stop the hate and stop the fighting and move on.
The alternative of course is to keep on quibbling and poking and bitching and moaning and throwing rocks at tanks and suicide bombings etc etc etc...., which a lot of people will no doubt defend as the right thing to do. However I'm quite certain this path will lead the world to WWIII eventually. Yes, yes it's best for them to keep up "the fight" over those few strips of land. Good plan.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!

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Did the "wall come down" in Iran in 1979 --or was in strengthened?
Is Muslim totalitarianism better than an autocracy?Comment
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Plenty of people did move from the area, now please explain which country in theI'd have moved completely out of the region and away to another continent 30 years ago Paul. But then again I have the sense to know and accept the fact that Israel isn't going anywhere. That's a given. So knowing that, I can also deduce that if there is any chance of having peace in the ME then it's a pretty safe bet that Israel's muslim neighbors are going to have do exactly that --- stop the hate and stop the fighting and move on.
The alternative of course is to keep on quibbling and poking and bitching and moaning and throwing rocks at tanks and suicide bombings etc etc etc...., which a lot of people will no doubt defend as the right thing to do. However I'm quite certain this path will lead the world to WWIII eventually. Yes, yes it's best for them to keep up "the fight" over those few strips of land. Good plan.
world has the desire or resources to take in all the rest of the people.
Nobody.
It's not like we are talking about wealthy people who can get a permanent visa
in any country they choose. These people actually have no place to go.
And if these people should leave because of the conflict then why does it not make
sense also for Jews to quit moving there?
All of your solutions are pro Jew, pro Jew and pro Jew. You have not even one tiny
little thing in concept that is pro Palestinian.
This is the problem. Two different sides can't accept one sided solutions.Comment
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They will become democracies and elect Hamas.The West has a vested interest in the Status Quo. A real Democracy might be the worse outcome.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/en...y-oil-reserves
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/en...oil-production
What if they use their oil to exert power on the West to meet their demands?
Their first demand might be getting US troops off their lands, the second might be stopping the West backing Israel. The third might be a price hike. The fourth might be to abandon the $ as the currency to buy oil.
All voted for by the Democratic choices of the people.
Or would it be best to ignore their democratic wishes and invade them?
Be careful for what you wish for, you might get more than you imagined.
Then we will protest the election and ask them to step down.
When they do not step down then we will cut off any help or negotiations and
Israel will blockade the people and try to starve the elected government out
of office.
OH WAIT!
That already happened.
Never mind.
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No, I just see that part of the equation as inevitable. I never said it was right, there are obviously egregious wrongs on both sides, and both sides will have to make some changes and concessions if there's to be any lasting peace over there. It's either possible or it's impossible, but the only way for it to be possible is if people on both sides make it possible. It's really that simple.
Maybe the youth of the ME can figure out a resolution? That is, assuming their minds haven't been completely and irrevocably poisoned by their parents and elders.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!

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That was but a fart in a steel bucket compared to what's happening across seven or eight countries right now.
I don't know if whatever resulting changes these protests bring about (if any) will be "better" than what's in power now. All I can say is look at what things they're asking for. Beyond that I've left it up to everyone here to chime in and say what they think is going on and what they think might happen.
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Well, the rulers of the countries in question have long sought to keep most of their countries wealth and not to share what they do not absolutely have to with the general population.
The Royal families shit on the peasantry too long and too much. Now the Peasants are revolting.
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