I hope something will be done about this soon.
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i've got 10 bucks on absolutely NOTHING coming from this thread other than yet another "contest" or payout increase from AFFComment
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did you shake your magic 8 ball for your " take" on that ?
LOL @ comparing some tgps who used stolen content years back to sites like pirate bay. You dreaming if you think something good is going to develop out of torrent sites, you know how rediculas that comment is, give us just 1 possible good thing that could happen because of torrents that " can be used by ths industry". Just 1 example of something good.
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Lots of them, but one site I just found today... http://pornorip.net/ There maybe more than one ad, but the one I saw was in the bottom left corner.
All stolen content.
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Wonder where the hell AFF is?
Juicy was all over this to save Fleshlight's name, yet AFF hasn't even made a squeak :Pskype: lordofthecameltoeComment
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Not to my knowledge he doesn't. What the screencap is illustrating is Jay's links on his own site being hijacked by a zango infected PC where that zango ad spot was "cordially brought to you by Cams.Com"
While Jay has a penchant for the extreme behaviour, he doesn't come across to me as being someone who would steal! He's madder than a shit fly at a cow ranch, but he's not a thief ....Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.Comment
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Its the porn biz, get used to it. Its shit I know.Skype Horusmaia
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Damn who neutered you? AFF might as well knock you on your ass and take out half the money in your wallet. Help you up, buy you a drink with your own money then pocket the rest. You shouldn't stand for that shit. I agree there are many more scumbags that will go after the traffic. I say take them down one by one as they step up to the challenge.Comment
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I am sort of hoping that AFF people might have something to say about all of this.Comment
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bump cuz content theft hurts us all.Comment
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This industry is full of crooks and thieves. Fuck em all!!!ICQ: 150-803-430
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Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.Comment
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Fyi
I am corresponding with Fleshlight owner on ths matter I am on road now I will post what fleshlight will be doing about the impeding affs
If you see anymore fl ads on torrent sites lmw
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This isn't a bad idea...
On a completely un-related topic, I was buying a ring for my wife and got financing through the store who finances through Wells Fargo Financial. A rep from WFF called me to come in, saying I needed to sign some papers for the ring financing. I get there and he starts pitching me on a wonderful home refinance deal. I decide to do it and when it came time to sign the papers, everything he said was a lie, but for some reason I still went with it - only to find out they tacked on $4000 more than the rep said.
I wrote a letter to WFF calling bullshit. Nothing happened.
I wrote a letter to the jewelery store's corporate HR department saying what happened. A couple of days later a regional WFF manager calls me and gave me my $4000 back.
-- Never underestimate the power of the pen.
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It's the bro club fucked up mentality.
" it is ok for my bros to steal from me because if my bros don't do it someone else would and I would rather see my bros gain from my loss".
What fucking logic. This could be applied to anything. My bros fuck my wife, this is ok because i rather my bros do it then someone i don't know. I tripped and fell and my bros fucked me in the ass while i was down, I am cool with this because if my bros didn't fuck me in the ass someone else would so I rather it be a bro, we all know they are big dicks...ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Can't wait for the days the bros realize that they are doing each other in a bad way. People seem to forget about all the damage already done and it is just continuing. Your post in the other thread about recommending people with paysites to look for new options or sell is pretty right on. It won't be till these companies are in the ^$(@$% that they realize what has been done and then come to boards like this posting what happened.
I have been taking notes on all of this since since we started hearing about it and removing sponsors right and left. Not that I am a big player or anything but I will not promote companies that are involved in such tactics.
Sad thing is that when I look at some of my trades who do I see that they are advertising the same companies that I am trying to avoid. I haven't taken the step of removing trades for who they promote but lol I am close.
Used to make anywhere from 3k to almost 5k a month in this biz. That has gone down to half if not more now. Yeah I don't skim anymore or have very entertaining sites but when I saw my best sponsor of all time go from under 1 in 1000 to over 1 in 4k I knew that something else must be going on.
Anyways cheers it up bros the damage will hit like a brick one of these days and you will be looking for a job like me peace ...Last edited by xxxice; 05-31-2007, 09:03 AM.Comment
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Amen my brother. You know my thoughts on this.I make the majority of my living producing DVDs. Why is it that every torrent site that has stolen my content and is giving it away, often 10,000+ times per title, sometimes up to 50,000 per title, you are there?
Why do you allow these people to make money off of you? Why do you support these thieves? Why do you pay them?
YOU are directly stealing money from MY pocket. Would it be OK if I smash one of you in the fucking face when I see you somewhere? Would it be OK if I stole or defrauded your company in any way? Of course not, so why are you stealing from me and the countless other directors who make a living doing this?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
You are stealing from me and my family. Fuck each and every person who works for your scandalous companies. You are all pieces of shit. In the end, you will get yours I'm sure of it.
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This thread is still alive?? wowArguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.Comment
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I'm glad Fleshlight is going to look into it, but they've been on torrent sites like empornium.us for as long as I can remember. I'm glad that reporting of these sites is being looked into, but I don't buy that the folks at Fleshlight don't know they are getting a ton of traffic from some of the biggest torrent sites on the web.Comment
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Exactly. Thats why I got a great laugh when Juicy was giving me crap for not posting urls and asking Alex to explain to me the complicated process of how to post a url and Juicy saying how easy it was like I'm a fucking idiot.
I understand that every Sponsor/Rep has to defend their company with the standard "I didn't know but will get it fixed" even if that isn't always true so no problemo.
I didn't initially post the url for four main reasons:
1) All sponsors know where their big affiliates traffic sources are.
2) It doesn't take a net detective to find a sponsor on a torrent site. Anyone could find one in a couple minutes or so. I found it in 30 seconds as it was the first torrent site I tried.
3) Some of the 95% of GFY who are not Webmasters will now have a new place to download stolen content. No biggie I guess as people post torrent sites here every day.
4) Most likely fuck all will be done about it based on previous postings regarding Sponsors supporting illegitimate traffic sources.
Let's see where Fleshlight will fall in the taking action department before you give him too many pats on the back. Nothing against Fleshlight or Juicy, just based on past experience. I hope to be proven wrong in this case.
Usual course of action is generally one of the following:
1) Sponsor does fuck all.
2) Sponsor says they will look into it but does fuck all.
3) Sponsor says they absolutely do not allow it and please report it and they will cancel rogue affiliate but does fuck all.
4) Sponsor says they canceled rogue affiliate but does fuck all.
5) Sponsor cancels one rogue affiliate temporarily but gets him up again with a new ID usually on the same site shortly after.
6) Sponsor permanently cancels affiliates but only those who have complaints and/or don't send much.
7) Sponsor does not allow affiliates to send traffic from Torrent sites and pro actively monitors their large affiliate traffic source instead of waiting for complaints.
Right now I suppose Fleshlight is hovering around number two but hopefully will be at six or seven shortly.
Of course what a sponsor says they will do and what they do can be very different and pretty much impossible to verify except when it's blatantly obvious like the supposedly canceled affiliate url is still valid days, weeks or months later as has happened several times.Comment
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Ozman, the point is this: If a sponsor does fuck all and stays there, they should be put in the same bin as AFF and responsible webmasters should stay as far the fuck away from them as possible.
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I remember a few months ago there was a post about AFF and the pirate bay, and Lars came in and closed the account and bragged how they aren't taking that traffic, then a couple of days later AFF banners were back up and I posted about it and Lars didn't give a fuckComment
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I agree Oz , but keep in mind I am not in FL office and dont have full access to all data or stats except fr my own affs. So there is so much i can do but pass info along to the powers that be.Exactly. Thats why I got a great laugh when Juicy was giving me crap for not posting urls and asking Alex to explain to me the complicated process of how to post a url and Juicy saying how easy it was like I'm a fucking idiot.
I understand that every Sponsor/Rep has to defend their company with the standard "I didn't know but will get it fixed" even if that isn't always true so no problemo.
I didn't initially post the url for four main reasons:
1) All sponsors know where their big affiliates traffic sources are.
2) It doesn't take a net detective to find a sponsor on a torrent site. Anyone could find one in a couple minutes or so. I found it in 30 seconds as it was the first torrent site I tried.
3) Some of the 95% of GFY who are not Webmasters will now have a new place to download stolen content. No biggie I guess as people post torrent sites here every day.
4) Most likely fuck all will be done about it based on previous postings regarding Sponsors supporting illegitimate traffic sources.
Let's see where Fleshlight will fall in the taking action department before you give him too many pats on the back. Nothing against Fleshlight or Juicy, just based on past experience. I hope to be proven wrong in this case.
Usual course of action is generally one of the following:
1) Sponsor does fuck all.
2) Sponsor says they will look into it but does fuck all.
3) Sponsor says they absolutely do not allow it and please report it and they will cancel rogue affiliate but does fuck all.
4) Sponsor says they canceled rogue affiliate but does fuck all.
5) Sponsor cancels one rogue affiliate temporarily but gets him up again with a new ID usually on the same site shortly after.
6) Sponsor permanently cancels affiliates but only those who have complaints and/or don't send much.
7) Sponsor does not allow affiliates to send traffic from Torrent sites and pro actively monitors their large affiliate traffic source instead of waiting for complaints.
Right now I suppose Fleshlight is hovering around number two but hopefully will be at six or seven shortly.
Of course what a sponsor says they will do and what they do can be very different and pretty much impossible to verify except when it's blatantly obvious like the supposedly canceled affiliate url is still valid days, weeks or months later as has happened several times.Comment
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Ill post outcome as soon as i get the 411 on this.Comment
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Oz hit me on da icq man 116999839Comment
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Go Juicy!Comment
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Juicy is da man... no short term profits over long term viability.Comment
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