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  • Phoenix
    BACON BACON BACON
    • Nov 2002
    • 35475

    #1

    Never ever paying upfront for design work again

    or any work for that matter

    you think you can trust people...but guess what


    holy fuckin annoying
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  • candyflip
    Carpe Visio
    • Jul 2002
    • 43073

    #2
    Haven't we been here before?

    Spend you some brain.
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    • CIVMatt
      Amateur Pimpin
      • Aug 2004
      • 13075

      #3
      This will shortly be follow by a designer thread complaining his latest client changed his mind and bailed out now that the design is done....
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      • webgurl
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2002
        • 7954

        #4
        If you don't know who you are dealing with and him/her
        doesn't have a reputation don't bother paying upfront or
        even giving a deposit .

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        • Deej
          I make pixels work
          • Jun 2005
          • 24386

          #5
          ive never asked for upfront yet. never been stiffed either. never had an unhappy client. ... i guess i shouldnt say this though... 1st time for everything.

          Deej's Designs n' What Not
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          • Forest
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2001
            • 9135

            #6
            If its someone I know we dont ask for a deposit

            someone I dont know we ask for 50% deposit but have yet to not complete a job for anyone

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            • candyflip
              Carpe Visio
              • Jul 2002
              • 43073

              #7
              Originally posted by Deej
              ive never asked for upfront yet. never been stiffed either. never had an unhappy client. ... i guess i shouldnt say this though... 1st time for everything.
              Don't worry...it'll happen at some point.

              Spend you some brain.
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              • Zuzana Designs
                All Your Design Needs
                • Feb 2005
                • 20901

                #8
                Originally posted by Forest
                If its someone I know we dont ask for a deposit

                someone I dont know we ask for 50% deposit but have yet to not complete a job for anyone

                Same here. I use to say I would not take any upfront, but have been burned to many times..

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                • WiredGuy
                  Pounding Googlebot
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 34515

                  #9
                  God bless Escrow
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                  I play with Google.

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                  • Phoenix
                    BACON BACON BACON
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 35475

                    #10
                    Originally posted by candyflip
                    Haven't we been here before?
                    we are still in the same place
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                    • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
                      (felis madjewicus)
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 20368

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CIVMatt
                      This will shortly be follow by a designer thread complaining his latest client changed his mind and bailed out now that the design is done....
                      I don't know a designer who ISN'T chasing somebody around asking "where the fuck's my money bitch?" For real, I won't even start a job anymore unless you give me a couple damn good references, or put half up front.

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                      • Sosa
                        In Tushy Land
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 40149

                        #12
                        there is only a few designers I trust

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                        • MetaMan
                          I AM WEB 2.0
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 28682

                          #13
                          That is why people who have designers who can actually do quality original work will stick with them like glue. They are hard to find most def.

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                          • geedub
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 3489

                            #14
                            i have also learned this the hard way. xlabor still owes me a gallery
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                            • kristin
                              GOO!
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 9768

                              #15
                              Are we back to this again?
                              Vacares rules.

                              "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

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                              • Deej
                                I make pixels work
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 24386

                                #16
                                Originally posted by candyflip
                                Don't worry...it'll happen at some point.
                                Im sure, i dont doubt it, been ripped off for other things.

                                I also do somewhat of a search on someone if I havent heard of them before I do work thats not payed for. I have turned some down.

                                but I dont doubt it happeneing some day...

                                Deej's Designs n' What Not
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                                • Goodings Media
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2007
                                  • 1987

                                  #17
                                  Well Im the sales Rep for www.student-design.co.uk a local UK design company, and we wont even START a design project until the client has signed the contract.

                                  Why?

                                  So we're guarunteed payment
                                  So the client is guarunteed the design

                                  It's pretty simple, and it's the extra service you get by getting work through a design company and not just a single freelance designer

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                                  • Yo Adrian
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2002
                                    • 6326

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by MetaMan
                                    That is why people who have designers who can actually do quality original work will stick with them like glue. They are hard to find most def.
                                    Yes we do have those kind of people
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                                    • Huggles
                                      GFY'S #1 retard
                                      • Feb 2003
                                      • 12546

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Phoenix
                                      or any work for that matter

                                      you think you can trust people...but guess what


                                      holy fuckin annoying


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                                      • Jace
                                        FBOP Class Of 2013
                                        • Jan 2004
                                        • 35562

                                        #20
                                        dude, I told you I would be working on and off today!!!!

                                        hehe, j/k

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                                        • Ragging Rhino
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2006
                                          • 221

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Forest
                                          If its someone I know we dont ask for a deposit

                                          someone I dont know we ask for 50% deposit but have yet to not complete a job for anyone
                                          Amen to that.
                                          It's one thing if we know them.
                                          I have been stiffed too many times over the years, doing design work and some of these lazy people run off with my work.

                                          We need at least something, to show us in good faith.
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                                          • Barefootsies
                                            Choice is an Illusion
                                            • Feb 2005
                                            • 42635

                                            #22
                                            Amen brotha

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                                            • LilBro

                                              #23
                                              next time you need design work, contact me and i will take care of you. We have many clients that would back us up that we are great to work with. Work is completed on time, binding contracts and KICKASS DESIGNS THAT CONVERT

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                                              • NTM
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Jul 2006
                                                • 1087

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                or any work for that matter

                                                you think you can trust people...but guess what
                                                quoted for truth!

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                                                • baddog
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                  • 107089

                                                  #25
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                                                  • JD
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                    • 22651

                                                    #26
                                                    I never ask for 100% upfront. 50% upfront is the most I'd ask for if you're "unknown"

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                                                    • tehHinjew
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Sep 2006
                                                      • 5755

                                                      #27
                                                      see sig, they will change shit for you no questions asked and if your not happy they will go out of their way to satisfy you

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                                                      • sextoyking
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                        • 6034

                                                        #28
                                                        We don't ask for a deposit upfront and have had very few issues with payments over the yrs at www.webinc.com

                                                        1. We send a quote
                                                        2. You get sched. in and access to our Client Section.
                                                        3. Works start on or before your sched. date
                                                        4. You approve / make changes to all design work
                                                        5. Design is done, you make final approval
                                                        6. You pay the bill..

                                                        We make it pretty easy at webinc.com

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                                                        • Broda
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                          • 1874

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Sosa
                                                          there is only a few designers I trust
                                                          hmm.. and designers most likely say the same about clients ;)
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                                                          • Barefootsies
                                                            Choice is an Illusion
                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                            • 42635

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Broda
                                                            hmm.. and designers most likely say the same about clients ;)
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                                                            • tony299
                                                              lurker
                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 57021

                                                              #31
                                                              unless you've done lots of business with someone,paying upfront to me is a recipe for pain.

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                                                              • Screaming
                                                                I can change this!!!!!
                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                • 18972

                                                                #32
                                                                yep, coding is the same shit

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                                                                • mailman
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                                  • 6311

                                                                  #33
                                                                  A good desinger is hard to find but there are some good ones out there

                                                                  *cough* www.templateempire.com *cough*

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                                                                  • DirtyDanza
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                    • 8375

                                                                    #34
                                                                    a down payment on design work? NO WAY... then your both out more time when no one likes whats designed and then they don't want to give a refund... if your a good designer you know you are... and if your good you will bill someone for the work later on....
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                                                                    • k0nr4d
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                      • 9231

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I always do 50% up front with new clients, especially on larger jobs. If someone isn't ok with that, they can find themselves another programmer.

                                                                      You have to realize we need to protect ourselves too. If i quote someone $1500 on a coding job, I view the deposit as their commitment that I am the one doing the job. Otherwise what if I finish half the project, and they suddenly decide that they want to go with another guy who quotes less?
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