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  • g$$$
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    • Mar 2007
    • 2807
    #1

    Stocks or Real Estate? Or Alternative Investment? Pick one!

    i think a 70/30 blend of stocks/re is good for the portfolio....with some of the 70% being in REITs....

    what do u guys think?

    i know there is alot of money sitting on the sidelines right now
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    • g$$$
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      • Mar 2007
      • 2807
      #2
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        • Well Dunn
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          • Sep 2005
          • 1026
          #3
          you cant use ny as some kinda guideline for home appreciation lol, but generaly investing in re has always beat inflation, the stock market, etc. The nice thing about RE is it's passive income. Plus the tax breaks and shit for re investors is just awesome.
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            • g$$$
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              #4
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                • JFK
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                  • Jan 2002
                  • 67369
                  #5
                  Real estate for me

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                        • CWeb
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                          • May 2007
                          • 245
                          #7
                          Originally posted by JFK
                          Real estate for me
                          Agree JFK - it's hardly a choice

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                            • polish_aristocrat
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 40377
                              #8
                              domain names are another option
                              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                • Barefootsies
                                  Choice is an Illusion
                                  • Feb 2005
                                  • 42635
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                  domain names are another option
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                                  Enough Said.

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                                    • mattz
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                                      • Dec 2001
                                      • 7697
                                      #10
                                      real estate for sure

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                                        • polish_aristocrat
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 40377
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                          so did the friends of this guy probably

                                          http://money.cnn.com/magazines/busin...ion=2007052205
                                          I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                            • triumph
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                                              • Dec 2002
                                              • 3433
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                              thats funny, because the domain name industry is gonna boom for a few more decades.

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                                                • Barefootsies
                                                  Choice is an Illusion
                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                  • 42635
                                                  #13


                                                  Should You Email Your Members?

                                                  Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                  Enough Said.

                                                  "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                    • Barefootsies
                                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                      • 42635
                                                      #14
                                                      PA is Taking It to Da...

                                                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                      so did the friends of this guy probably

                                                      http://money.cnn.com/magazines/busin...ion=2007052205
                                                      Should You Email Your Members?

                                                      Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                      Enough Said.

                                                      "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                        • djroof
                                                          JuicyDevils.gr Owner
                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                          • 25509
                                                          #15
                                                          I am on real estate

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                                                              #16
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                                                                • sweetcuties
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                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                  • 5859
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Stock first, then Real Estate

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                                                                    • mikaels
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                      • 105
                                                                      #18
                                                                      http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/...mag/index.html

                                                                      Cnn and Forbes choses stocks over real estate.

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                                                                        • BlueDesignStudios
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                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                          • 9492
                                                                          #19
                                                                          stocks ...

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                                                                            • g$$$
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                                                                              • Mar 2007
                                                                              • 2807
                                                                              #20
                                                                              theres an article about some domain name dude in business 2.0. snatched up all the domain names..plus the .cm ones....
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                                                                                • strobi
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                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                  • 7383
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by mikaels
                                                                                  http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/...mag/index.html

                                                                                  Cnn and Forbes choses stocks over real estate.
                                                                                  That is because they do not understand real estate at all. There is no way on earth an average joe can beat investing in real estate, by investing in stocks. Comparing 8% or so rise in prices to 10.5% rise in stock prices is like comparing apples with oranges. Even an investor with half a braincell can spot the faulty comparison by miles.

                                                                                  If you factor in leverage, tax advantages, buying in the path of progress/location the picture becomes entirely different.

                                                                                  From their article "The results? Housing delivered a solid but unimpressive annualized return of 8.6%"

                                                                                  Don't make me laugh. A well laid out project, over the course of 10 years, with good mangement will outperform stocks by a largeeeee margin.

                                                                                  The only way to score big with stocks is when youre on the inside, IE, when you issue your own stocks from your own company, or if you have a very profound knowledge of doing business.

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                                                                                    • woj
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                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                      • 47880
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by g$$$
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                                                                                        • woj
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                                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                                          • 47880
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by strobi
                                                                                          That is because they do not understand real estate at all. There is no way on earth an average joe can beat investing in real estate, by investing in stocks. Comparing 8% or so rise in prices to 10.5% rise in stock prices is like comparing apples with oranges. Even an investor with half a braincell can spot the faulty comparison by miles.

                                                                                          If you factor in leverage, tax advantages, buying in the path of progress/location the picture becomes entirely different.

                                                                                          From their article "The results? Housing delivered a solid but unimpressive annualized return of 8.6%"

                                                                                          Don't make me laugh. A well laid out project, over the course of 10 years, with good mangement will outperform stocks by a largeeeee margin.

                                                                                          The only way to score big with stocks is when youre on the inside, IE, when you issue your own stocks from your own company, or if you have a very profound knowledge of doing business.
                                                                                          What do you consider a "project"? Buying some property and renting it out? Running something like that takes considerable amount of time, it's more of a business than an investment, you might as well stretch things even further and say buying McDonalds restaurants is an even better investment.

                                                                                          One important detail, everyone ommits from the stocks vs RE analysis, is that RE takes 10x more time to research/manage/buy/etc... so you are completely right it's like comparing apples with oranges.
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                                                                                            • polish_aristocrat
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                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                              • 40377
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by woj

                                                                                              One important detail, everyone ommits from the stocks vs RE analysis, is that RE takes 10x more time to research/manage/buy/etc... so you are completely right it's like comparing apples with oranges.
                                                                                              to buy and manage - yes, but to reseach?

                                                                                              I have no idea about stocks at all, it surely would take some time to do some research as well

                                                                                              or are you saying I should drop $50k into Microsoft and it will grow 15% yearly?
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                                                                                                • woj
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                  • 47880
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                  to buy and manage - yes, but to reseach?

                                                                                                  I have no idea about stocks at all, it surely would take some time to do some research as well

                                                                                                  or are you saying I should drop $50k into Microsoft and it will grow 15% yearly?
                                                                                                  With stocks you have an option of buying "mutual funds"/"index funds"/etc with those there is very limited amount of research needed... you just buy for example s&p index fund, total time required = 5 mins, total cost = $10...

                                                                                                  Even with this naive approach, you will be just fine, you will always pay for the fund exactly what it's worth at the given time... With RE (just like with domain names), if you are a clueless idiot, you can get fucked pretty badly, you can very easily overpay 10% or more for a property... (so research in this case is crucial and research = time wasted)
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                                                                                                    • polish_aristocrat
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                                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                                      • 40377
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      if you chose a bad fund or if there's some crash on the stockmarket like with the dot coms in 2000, then you can also lose a huge part of what you invested....
                                                                                                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                                        • wyldworx
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                                                                                                          • Dec 2006
                                                                                                          • 5144
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          real estate is easier to predict, stocks are a more involved investment, and certainly not one u can turn your back on. Eitherway, if investigated correctly, both can return a packet of wealth.

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                                                                                                            • Peaches
                                                                                                              Old broad
                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                              • 13933
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              I have done well buying dirt and continue to do so. Stocks - I TOTALLY lost my ass in them in 2002, not following someone's fall 2000 advice to sell, then continuing to screw myself over by selling like a mad woman in 2002. No more stocks for me. I still have a few (very few) shares here and there, but land is more attractive to me.

                                                                                                              Though I wished I'd bough Crocs stock back when I fell in love with the shoe

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                                                                                                                • woj
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                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                  • 47880
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                  if you chose a bad fund or if there's some crash on the stockmarket like with the dot coms in 2000, then you can also lose a huge part of what you invested....
                                                                                                                  true, it's in an investment and those usually usually involve risk but I can pick up some stocks right this moment, and be sure I paid exactly what they are worth....

                                                                                                                  I can't just go buy some RE or a domain name without doing any research... (well, I probably can, but 99% chance I will overpay)
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                                                                                                                    • sacX
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                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                      if you chose a bad fund or if there's some crash on the stockmarket like with the dot coms in 2000, then you can also lose a huge part of what you invested....
                                                                                                                      choosing an index fund means it's not actively managed so as long as you pick one of the big ones with low fees you can't really pick a *bad* one. Ideally one that isn't just the United States. Also the dot com crash surely decimated the nasdaq but that's not a broad market it's heavily weighted towards technology. So the broader indices definitely went down but nowhere near the amount the nasdaq..

                                                                                                                      Just as an aside media house prices in the US are down 10% year over year atm (which makes me a bit more interested in buying property)

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                                                                                                                        • g$$$
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          buy a reit...real estate investment trust..best of both worlds
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