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  • Casa Nova
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    • Mar 2007
    • 2867
    #1

    How do you treat smaller webmasters/Noobs?

    So how do you treat smaller webmasters, or even just new guys coming into the business?

    I can see how some people can be annoyed by them, but really everyone starts somewhere, and chances are you started from the same position. SO whats the point in ignoring them? It is veyr true that if you help the little guys one day they may become something really big, and they wont forget that you were there to help them when they were small... so whats your view on this, do u tend to try and help the bigger fish in the market, or do u take the time to help out the small ones to, and do some business with them?

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    • After Shock Media
      It's coming look busy
      • Mar 2001
      • 35299
      #2
      I treat the little snot nose fuckers like everyone else.

      Actually I am very newbie friendly.

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        • GooSearch
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          • Oct 2006
          • 2538
          #3
          i kick them like lil puppies


          then i remember everyone starts somewhere so i kick them again
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            • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
              North Coast Pimp
              • Dec 2005
              • 9395
              #4
              Like everyone else..

              And you are right, the next little gold fish could be tommorrows next whale..

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                • shekinah
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                  • May 2006
                  • 8452
                  #5
                  treat them like you are just the same because sometimes they know what exactly veterans didn't know.

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                    • miss_twisted
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                      • Apr 2005
                      • 425
                      #6
                      Like they are whales, who knows where they may be 2 yrs from now!
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                        • everblazin
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                          • Jan 2007
                          • 259
                          #7
                          Originally posted by GooSearch
                          i kick them like lil puppies


                          then i remember everyone starts somewhere so i kick them again
                          That was hilarious

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                            • everblazin
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                              • Jan 2007
                              • 259
                              #8
                              Although, I am one of those noobs

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                                • lbc213
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Sep 2006
                                  • 2673
                                  #9
                                  Well I'm very new to this and everyone has been very nice to me, but if someone won't treat with me respect then they certainly wont get any back from me no matter how much of a 'big playa' they are.

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                                    • Dagwolf
                                      President of Canada
                                      • Sep 2003
                                      • 23141
                                      #10
                                      I treat them as individuals... Depends on the person.
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                                        • AmeliaG
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                                          • Jan 2003
                                          • 10670
                                          #11
                                          Yeah, I agree, it is more about what the person comes across like than where they are at this minute. I'd expect someone at it and successful for a long time to act a little bit differently from someone just starting out, but one of the coolest things about internet business is how fast things can happen for someone smart and hardworking.
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                                            • Casa Nova
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                                              • Mar 2007
                                              • 2867
                                              #12
                                              I totally agree Amelia, I've been on the board for maybe about a month now if that, and I've gone from a complete nobody, with no experience gainign the respect of a few great great guys, and working for/with someone that is highly respected in the industy. And the thing is I got this opportunity bu presenting myself as who i am on the board and taking the chance to stick my head out here, luckily people respected that and took me under there wing so to speak.

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                                                • J$tyle$
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                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                  • 11500
                                                  #13
                                                  I hire newbies if thery're smart and ambitious ... they are like clay - easy to mold

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                                                    • IllTestYourGirls
                                                      Ah My Balls
                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                      • 14311
                                                      #14
                                                      as a complete noob with no computer background, and very little online marketing skills, I must say this board has been very helpful. It seems the assholes dont say anything when you ask a question and those willing to help give some good advice.

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                                                        • Choose
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                                                          • May 2007
                                                          • 135
                                                          #15
                                                          That's very right and true you know!

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                                                            • JenniDahling
                                                              Market Penetration Specialist
                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                              • 5285
                                                              #16
                                                              I'm still a noob after 1 year in the biz but I live by the golden rule, and majority of the veterans sincerely want to help anyone who is honest about how they conduct themselves in life and in business. There are some great people in this industry! I've learned a lot and have gained some true friendships in such a short time.

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                                                                • Casa Nova
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                                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                                  • 2867
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by JenniDahling
                                                                  I'm still a noob after 1 year in the biz but I live by the golden rule, and majority of the veterans sincerely want to help anyone who is honest about how they conduct themselves in life and in business. There are some great people in this industry! I've learned a lot and have gained some true friendships in such a short time.
                                                                  Like you siad their are definitly tons and tons of people more then willing to help with questions and things like that.

                                                                  Just as a side question, but do you think that this industry is the most helpful relative to say mainstream ventures? I really think it is, & havent seen the kind of support and coutiership in other industries. Even on campuses people are always out to better someone else & barely ever willing to help out someone whos struggling.

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                                                                    • Mutt
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                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 34431
                                                                      #18
                                                                      i treat everybody the same - some people i know are worth millions and some are just trying to make a living - i respect and admire the ones who make the big money fairly honestly and the struggling guy who is trying to find his way.

                                                                      i'm only suspicious of newbs who want everything given to them and whom I suspect once they have what they want will be assholes.
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                                                                        • J$tyle$
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                                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                                          • 11500
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                          i treat everybody the same - some people i know are worth millions and some are just trying to make a living - i respect and admire the ones who make the big money fairly honestly and the struggling guy who is trying to find his way.

                                                                          i'm only suspicious of newbs who want everything given to them and whom I suspect once they have what they want will be assholes.
                                                                          Well said, mutt

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                                                                            • TiaLing
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                                                                              • Mar 2006
                                                                              • 979
                                                                              #20
                                                                              noobs

                                                                              I'm a noob, and have found that most veterans are very helpful, however, every board has one or two that just have to make their rude comments for no reason, but I have to admit, I've loved the help I've received on this board! Tia


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                                                                                • DamageX
                                                                                  Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                  • 14293
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Fuck'em.

                                                                                  Kidding aside, noobs are just like any other people. Some are assholes, some are dumb, some are lazy, some are brilliant and fast learners.
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                                                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                                                      Too old to care
                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                      • 52942
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Lets be totally honest here. The odds on a newbie coming in and sending decent traffic in any quantity is VERY long. The odds on the guys still being around is also VERY long.

                                                                                      So how much do we need to invest in getting that traffic, supporting that guy and what's the return?

                                                                                      The established guys don't need a lot of time or support and will return a profit. The newbies need a lot of support and are unlikely to return a profit. So how much can we afford to invest in them?

                                                                                      No excuse for being rude because someone is a newbie and no excuse for painting a rosie picture of his chances of being around in 6 months time. Just because you need another guy throwing galleries at a TGP or putting up another blog.

                                                                                      The industry is 10 years old, and more, the time for newbies making it with no money, experience, skills or talent is over.

                                                                                      If that sounds tough then fine. But if it were not true there would be no newbies. Basic traffic generation would go in house. I can employ people for $30 a day or less. I'm better off getting them building galleries for others to submit rather than submit them myself like a newbie.



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                                                                                        • tony299
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                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                          • 57021
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          I treat them the same way they treat me

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                                                                                            • SleazyDream
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                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 41470
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              in real life or on gfy


                                                                                              i treat everyone the same on GFY - you're all fucking idiots. newbs tend to take it more personal though


                                                                                              i treat everyone with respect in real life till they give me reason to treat them otherwise
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                                                                                                • Kevin Marx
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                                                                                                  • Apr 2007
                                                                                                  • 1888
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                  Lets be totally honest here. The odds on a newbie coming in and sending decent traffic in any quantity is VERY long. The odds on the guys still being around is also VERY long.

                                                                                                  So how much do we need to invest in getting that traffic, supporting that guy and what's the return?

                                                                                                  The established guys don't need a lot of time or support and will return a profit. The newbies need a lot of support and are unlikely to return a profit. So how much can we afford to invest in them?

                                                                                                  No excuse for being rude because someone is a newbie and no excuse for painting a rosie picture of his chances of being around in 6 months time. Just because you need another guy throwing galleries at a TGP or putting up another blog.

                                                                                                  The industry is 10 years old, and more, the time for newbies making it with no money, experience, skills or talent is over.

                                                                                                  If that sounds tough then fine. But if it were not true there would be no newbies. Basic traffic generation would go in house. I can employ people for $30 a day or less. I'm better off getting them building galleries for others to submit rather than submit them myself like a newbie.
                                                                                                  Well it's good to know you have the universe in hand and no one else deserves to take a stab at it.

                                                                                                  Does he always talk this way??? WTF???
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                                                                                                    • ampt10
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                                                                                                      • Sep 2005
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Just give a welcome says go fuck your self

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                                                                                                        • Paul Markham
                                                                                                          Too old to care
                                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                                          • 52942
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Kevin-SFBucks
                                                                                                          Well it's good to know you have the universe in hand and no one else deserves to take a stab at it.

                                                                                                          Does he always talk this way??? WTF???
                                                                                                          Yes I always talk this way. How I believe and what I think is honest.

                                                                                                          Are you saying there is still serious money to be made by newbies?

                                                                                                          And let me guess where you think they can make it.

                                                                                                          This is business and it's tough for any newbie to make it in any business unless they have money, experience, skills or talent. Could be porn or window cleaning or rocket science.

                                                                                                          I'm presently helping a newbie on ICQ. Always willing to help.



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                                                                                                            • stev0
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                                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                                              • 6801
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Although I don't talk to a whole lot of newbies... sometimes they randomly hit me up on icq. If they have a couple questions i'll answer them and be friendly, but if they want a step by step walkthrough on what I do I ignore them. I don't walk into a store and ask the manager exact details on how they conduct business, where they advertise, etc... it doesn't fly anywhere else, why should it in this industry?

                                                                                                              I had to learn on my own, so should they... Not to mention, if they do exactly what I do then they're taking a chunk of my pie.

                                                                                                              If you're running an affiliate program I can see more reasons to help newbies, they could (although very unlikely in my experience) turn into profitable webmasters someday.
                                                                                                              Last edited by stev0; 05-22-2007, 11:54 PM.

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                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                  • 32189
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  I treat them with respect. Just because someone is new or small doesn't mean he/she doesn't have anything to contribute or doesn't know anything. Respect, empathy, and understanding goes a long way.

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                                                                                                                    • Czech
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                                                                                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                      • 2694
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      ArchiveCash.com & GayGravy.com allways treat all small & big fish as equals QUOTE: Small Fish Are Sweet.

                                                                                                                      Some small fish DO GROW to become BIG fish
                                                                                                                      Last edited by Czech; 05-23-2007, 12:24 AM.

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                                                                                                                        • lbc213
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                                                                                                                          • Sep 2006
                                                                                                                          • 2673
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                          And let me guess where you think they can make it.

                                                                                                                          This is business and it's tough for any newbie to make it in any business unless they have money, experience, skills or talent. Could be porn or window cleaning or rocket science.

                                                                                                                          I'm presently helping a newbie on ICQ. Always willing to help.
                                                                                                                          So I guess you were born with all the experience and knowledge were you? and did not have to learn just like anyone else?

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                                                                                                                            • Barefootsies
                                                                                                                              Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                              • 42635
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Dagwolf
                                                                                                                              I treat them as individuals... Depends on the person.
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                                                                                                                                • IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                                                                  Ah My Balls
                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                  • 14311
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                  Lets be totally honest here. The odds on a newbie coming in and sending decent traffic in any quantity is VERY long. The odds on the guys still being around is also VERY long.

                                                                                                                                  So how much do we need to invest in getting that traffic, supporting that guy and what's the return?

                                                                                                                                  The established guys don't need a lot of time or support and will return a profit. The newbies need a lot of support and are unlikely to return a profit. So how much can we afford to invest in them?

                                                                                                                                  No excuse for being rude because someone is a newbie and no excuse for painting a rosie picture of his chances of being around in 6 months time. Just because you need another guy throwing galleries at a TGP or putting up another blog.

                                                                                                                                  The industry is 10 years old, and more, the time for newbies making it with no money, experience, skills or talent is over.

                                                                                                                                  If that sounds tough then fine. But if it were not true there would be no newbies. Basic traffic generation would go in house. I can employ people for $30 a day or less. I'm better off getting them building galleries for others to submit rather than submit them myself like a newbie.

                                                                                                                                  I really wish I was around in the golden days because I have been doing this for a few months PART TIME, maybe 1 to 3 hours a day (counting surfing time on GFY) and making low $x,xxx a month. I started with NO $$ and NO skills.

                                                                                                                                  Noobs can do it, with nothing, they just have to think of a way.

                                                                                                                                  Could you make it now if you were a noob?

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                                                                                                                                    • Funbrunette
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                                                                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 4834
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Casa Nova
                                                                                                                                      So how do you treat smaller webmasters, or even just new guys coming into the business?

                                                                                                                                      I can see how some people can be annoyed by them, but really everyone starts somewhere, and chances are you started from the same position. SO whats the point in ignoring them? It is veyr true that if you help the little guys one day they may become something really big, and they wont forget that you were there to help them when they were small... so whats your view on this, do u tend to try and help the bigger fish in the market, or do u take the time to help out the small ones to, and do some business with them?

                                                                                                                                      If they look like you I treat them like gold!
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                                                                                                                                        • Kevin Marx
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                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                                                                                                          • 1888
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                          Yes I always talk this way. How I believe and what I think is honest.

                                                                                                                                          Are you saying there is still serious money to be made by newbies?

                                                                                                                                          And let me guess where you think they can make it.

                                                                                                                                          This is business and it's tough for any newbie to make it in any business unless they have money, experience, skills or talent. Could be porn or window cleaning or rocket science.

                                                                                                                                          I'm presently helping a newbie on ICQ. Always willing to help.
                                                                                                                                          See.. this is a much nicer post... your other one felt pretty much like they can all fuck themselves.. we got it handled.

                                                                                                                                          Do I think new people can make money.. sure, just as much as someone who's been around for a while. New blood is always a good thing. new ideas are always a good thing. Is it still the wild west and you can cash in by putting up 2 galleries and nothing else? NO fuckin way. If they want to work for it, sure its there.
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                                                                                                                                            • dig0
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                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2007
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              In my previous company, the senior management used to say

                                                                                                                                              "SO FUCKIN WHAT? IGNORE THE LITTLE FUCKER, he doesn't bring in THAT much traffic and is not worth talking to".

                                                                                                                                              So fuck it!

                                                                                                                                              I say - treat everyone equal, who knows which seed will grow into a tree.
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                                                                                                                                                • J$tyle$
                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 11500
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by dig0
                                                                                                                                                  In my previous company, the senior management used to say

                                                                                                                                                  "SO FUCKIN WHAT? IGNORE THE LITTLE FUCKER, he doesn't bring in THAT much traffic and is not worth talking to".
                                                                                                                                                  That's fucked but the truth is a lot of smaller guys need more attention.

                                                                                                                                                  It's an opportunity cost thing that some copmpanies aren't willing to accomodate.

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                                                                                                                                                    • DWB
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 31779
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      I welcome them.

                                                                                                                                                      Come to me and promote my sites, I will teach you everything you want to know.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Z
                                                                                                                                                          Vidi Vici Veni
                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 6308
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Like somebody said above, Noobs are just like everybody else, they're people. Some are great and some are shit. Treating them differently just because they haven't been "in the biz" long is just plain ridiculous.

                                                                                                                                                          Hit me up any time noob, I'm always happy to help.

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                                                                                                                                                            • g$$$
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                                                                                                                                                              yeah..treat them well..who knows. they might know a thing or two...
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                                                                                                                                                                • sumphatpimp
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  I treat them with disrespect, disgust and loathing.
                                                                                                                                                                  if you can't hack it, bail the fuck out.
                                                                                                                                                                  this is business not a game.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • DC-Sharon
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                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2007
                                                                                                                                                                      • 47
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Irrelevant of how long they been in the biz, treat them with respect!

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                                                                                                                                                                        • BucksMania
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          im respectful to everyone

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Randyyy
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              equality dammit!!
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