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  • SmokeyTheBear
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    • Jun 2004
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    #1

    Hillary Clinton wants 10 billion $ to start kids in school at 4 years old

    wtf , no thnks

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070521/...inton_children

    what a waste,..
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  • IllTestYourGirls
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    • Feb 2007
    • 14311

    #2
    Taxes going up incomes going down and the politicians just want more and more of our money

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    • pornguy
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      • Mar 2003
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      #3
      I think she should get the 10 billion for the schools. but leave the age at what it is now.
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      • fetishblog
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        • Sep 2005
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        #4
        And this is new how?

        I was 4 when I started school, 26 years ago.

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        • tranza
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          • Jun 2003
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          #5
          Uhmmm.... How much do you guys spend with militaries?
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          • kristin
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            • Sep 2002
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            #6
            Um... I was already in kindergarten by age 4.

            I planned on putting my 3 year old in pre-school this year.
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            • xclusive
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              • Apr 2004
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              #7
              Yeah it's bad to educate kids better, Something needs to be done and this is far from the perfect solution but it's a part of it. They also need to have some rules and enforce them as to the quality of the schools and hold teachers responsible. If a teacher is not doing a good job it's very hard to fire them thanks to the teachers union. We need to look after our kids and make sure they have all the tools they need to succeed. If a teacher needs to go it should be an easy process. I've seen my share of teachers that are not doing the job they are paid for.

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              • woj
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                #8
                The number sounds huge, but that's pennies compared to cost of for example war in Iraq, according to www.costofwar.com, the war in iraq cost the US 428 Billion so far...
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                • Huggles
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                  • Feb 2003
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear


                  Might be a waste if the kids are brought up in good homes, but most parents are retarded, and it's probably a good idea.
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                  • Matt 26z
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                    • Apr 2002
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                    #10
                    Why would anyone have a problem with preschool? I started when I was 3 or 4. The US is so far behind the rest of the world in education.

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                    • EBORG9
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                      • Oct 2006
                      • 1823

                      #11
                      It's not the first 4 years of school that are failing our youth, it's the last 4.

                      If you want to put them in school to make up for idiot parents, just put them in state sponsored school for their entire youth, with housing and everything, and call it our Olympic Team

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                      • Lee
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                        • Aug 2002
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                        #12
                        Whats up with starting kids at 4?

                        I only knew the US didnt because Ive encountered a couple of US kids in our schools that are way behind and have to move down a year or two.

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                        • notabook
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                          • Apr 2006
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                          #13
                          Both my niece and nephew started school at 4... what's wrong with wanting to get kids started early? Ten billion is peanuts compared to how much this illegal war is costing, and starting school earlier would surely show better results than what this 500 billion dollar war has shown.

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                          • Loryn
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                            • Jul 2003
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                            Taxes going up incomes going down and the politicians just want more and more of our money
                            If you put a lib in office, that is what you will get. haha

                            More government programs to control people and make them depend on the government more.

                            $4 Billion so the government can control 4 year old kid's educations instead of letting the parents control their own kids. Typical socialist thinking that lady has.

                            And of course I cannot post anything about Hillary without bringing to the plate that she would LOVE to control what is put on the Internet AND she loves the N.O.W. who, by the way, thinks Victoria's Secret ads are discriminating to women. Gee, I wonder what her plans, beliefs and ideas will do to the Adult Industry! LOL Not to mention she is a scorned woman who was publicly humiliated by her husband having a wondering eye (and fingers haha)
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                            • Drake
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                              #15
                              At what age do kids enter school now?

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                              • xxxdesign-net
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                                • Nov 2002
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com
                                the government can control 4 year old kid's educations instead of letting the parents control their own kids. Typical socialist thinking that lady has.
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                                Exactly but its funny that you still think the republicans are conservatives, for small government, low spending, etc... The leading republicans will endorse Hilary's plan.. just watch..

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                                • stickyfingerz
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                                  #17
                                  Its going to be fun to watch Fred Thompson beat the snot ouy of whatever dem gets the nomination

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                                  • notabook
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                    Its going to be fun to watch Fred Thompson beat the snot ouy of whatever dem gets the nomination
                                    I considered voting for a republican once... then I found out about Fred Thompson... now I'm a racist, anti-semetic, anti-free thinking, gay bashing, abortion-bombing asshole. Oh and I plan to vote for Fred Thompson twice.

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                                    • tony299
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com
                                      If you put a lib in office, that is what you will get. haha

                                      More government programs to control people and make them depend on the government more.

                                      $4 Billion so the government can control 4 year old kid's educations instead of letting the parents control their own kids. Typical socialist thinking that lady has.

                                      And of course I cannot post anything about Hillary without bringing to the plate that she would LOVE to control what is put on the Internet AND she loves the N.O.W. who, by the way, thinks Victoria's Secret ads are discriminating to women. Gee, I wonder what her plans, beliefs and ideas will do to the Adult Industry! LOL Not to mention she is a scorned woman who was publicly humiliated by her husband having a wondering eye (and fingers haha)
                                      like your gang aint been spending like drunken sailors please stop and lets not start on adult and the right

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                                      • stickyfingerz
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                                        #20
                                        double post bah
                                        Last edited by stickyfingerz; 05-21-2007, 04:59 PM.

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                                        • stickyfingerz
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                                          • Oct 2005
                                          • 24984

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by notabook
                                          I considered voting for a republican once... then I found out about Fred Thompson... now I'm a racist, anti-semetic, anti-free thinking, gay bashing, abortion-bombing asshole. Oh and I plan to vote for Fred Thompson twice.
                                          Let me know if you run across any good bumper stickers for him. I havent looked yet though.

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                                          • Mutt
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                                            • Sep 2002
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                                            #22
                                            i think a 4 year old is just wasting that year waiting to enter the public education system - he/she is pretty much just watching cartoons that year and sponging off his/her parents. they are able bodied at that age, sturdy and strong, have good communication skills - I say put them to work for that year, some kind of community service, manual labor, nothing too strenuous, picking up trash or putting stuff in boxes/envelopes.

                                            just like 18 year old kids who take a year off before entering college to work better appreciate college afterwards I think a year in the workforce for a 4 year old will help them appreciate what a great opportunity the next 12 years are for him going to school.
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                                            • Webby
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                                              • Oct 2002
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by kristin
                                              Um... I was already in kindergarten by age 4.

                                              I planned on putting my 3 year old in pre-school this year.
                                              Considering a child's mental capacity/makeup is mainly developed around the 1 to 4 age level, prior to starting any formal education - sounds sensible.

                                              On the flipside, does this give a clue as to why there are so many idiots around who hit back to a base political level - like they have a clue??
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                                              • MandyBlake
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                                                #24
                                                i was 4 yrs old in kindergarten and i turned out ok...although i am an adult model and webmaster lol
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                                                • Webby
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Mutt
                                                  i think a 4 year old is just wasting that year waiting to enter the public education system - he/she is pretty much just watching cartoons that year and sponging off his/her parents. they are able bodied at that age, sturdy and strong, have good communication skills - I say put them to work for that year, some kind of community service, manual labor, nothing too strenuous, picking up trash or putting stuff in boxes/envelopes.
                                                  Damn true Mutt - they all need to spend a year of military service
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                                                  • Webby
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MandyBlake
                                                    i was 4 yrs old in kindergarten and i turned out ok...although i am an adult model and webmaster lol
                                                    Sure ya did Mandy and it prob was a benefit - but don't make the adult modeling and webmaster sound like an apology - there is no need
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                                                    • baddog
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                                                      • Apr 2001
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                                                      #27
                                                      She calls it pre-school, I call it government subsidized child care.

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                                                      • IllTestYourGirls
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                                                        • Feb 2007
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                                                        #28
                                                        For the record Bush has given more money to schools than any other president in history. Local government is failing not federal.

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                                                        • TSGlider
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by tranza
                                                          Uhmmm.... How much do you guys spend with militaries?
                                                          At present, our military budget is $437 billion. By and large--there is some overlap of course--this is independent of spending on iraq and afghanistan.
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                                                          • SabrinaDeep
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                                                            #30
                                                            Sometimes i wonder what people make children for, when they pretend to leave them 10 hours a day at pre-school since the age of 3. No wonder that most families have no influence on their children whatsoever, nowdays.
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                                                            • Webby
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                                                              • Oct 2002
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by tranza
                                                              Uhmmm.... How much do you guys spend with militaries?
                                                              Not so much

                                                              Around $439 billion officially plus an estimated black budget of anywhere between $40 billion and $1.5 trillion at the highest level. Some analysts average the truth to be around $650 billion.

                                                              On the subject of truth... this is hard to establish since there is no accountability - it's called being a democracy

                                                              This represents around 50&#37; of total world spending on "defense". Obviously there are a lot of enemies to defend against :-)
                                                              Last edited by Webby; 05-21-2007, 06:23 PM.
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                                                              • Jimmy Rock
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                                                                #32
                                                                Better than spending over 80 billion on a bullshit war
                                                                Last edited by Jimmy Rock; 05-21-2007, 06:24 PM. Reason: spelling
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                                                                • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                  • Jun 2004
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  sorry i should have elaborated . i certainly dont think supporting education is a bad idea, they should be throwing twice what they throw on the military into education.

                                                                  but sadly this isn't the case. throwing much needed funding into something that is already done on most levels is silly..

                                                                  She spoke of creating kids who wont be a burden on the welfare system later in life.. 4 year olds are not where the problem is lol.

                                                                  lack of education funding seems so silly to me.. its actually a quite FAST return on your investment , invest in kids and they will pay back in TAXES in 20 years or less.

                                                                  she should be focusing on the other end of the spectrum.. is all i was trying to say..
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                                                                  • Martin3
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com
                                                                    If you put a lib in office, that is what you will get. haha

                                                                    More government programs to control people and make them depend on the government more.

                                                                    $4 Billion so the government can control 4 year old kid's educations instead of letting the parents control their own kids. Typical socialist thinking that lady has.
                                                                    What do you think has already happened? Liberal, democrat, conservative, republican, it doesn't matter these days. They're all socialist, anyone who thinks Bush is conservative needs their head examined.

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                                                                    • GatorB
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                                                                      • Oct 2001
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                      You do realize $10 billion is NOTHING. The war in Iraq has already cost 40X that. Bill Gates makes $10 billion every 3 months and he's ONE guy.

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                                                                      • GatorB
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                                                                        • Oct 2001
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                        sorry i should have elaborated . i certainly dont think supporting education is a bad idea, they should be throwing twice what they throw on the military into education.

                                                                        but sadly this isn't the case. throwing much needed funding into something that is already done on most levels is silly..

                                                                        She spoke of creating kids who wont be a burden on the welfare system later in life.. 4 year olds are not where the problem is lol.

                                                                        lack of education funding seems so silly to me.. its actually a quite FAST return on your investment , invest in kids and they will pay back in TAXES in 20 years or less.

                                                                        she should be focusing on the other end of the spectrum.. is all i was trying to say..
                                                                        I agree pelethink spendingmoney on education is waste. Well not if it get peole off welfare. Then it SAVES money. When kids in inner city schools go to schools that haven't been fixed up since the early 70's, don't have enough books to go around, can't get decent teachers because of the the enviroment. Then it's no wonder they don't get a decent education. Rich schools ina rea with high property values don't need federal tax $$$. Those kids already get great educations. And if some kid goes to school there and doesn't get one then he's just a fucking retard lazy motherfucker loser.

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                                                                        • Xplicit
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          God I pay this feminist bitch doesn't even get the nomination.

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                                                                          • LiveDose
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            I can't wait till that hill billy is done with politics.

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                                                                            • thebossxxx
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Webby
                                                                              Considering a child's mental capacity/makeup is mainly developed around the 1 to 4 age level, prior to starting any formal education - sounds sensible.

                                                                              On the flipside, does this give a clue as to why there are so many idiots around who hit back to a base political level - like they have a clue??
                                                                              great thoughts!


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                                                                              • v4 media
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                You can put your kids in school when they're 3 in Spain, 20 kids to a class.

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                                                                                • Zayne E.
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                                                                                  • Apr 2002
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Interesting topic...maybe there's more at play here...

                                                                                  Did you know...

                                                                                  1 out of every 150 births (and still skyrocketing) results in a child with Autism.
                                                                                  Early intervention (therapies and IEP's) has proven these children have the best shot at growing into self-actualizing adults.
                                                                                  Currently, in EVERY community nation-wide, excellent help (educational programs and therapies) is available through the public school system for kids with Autism for ages 3 and up.
                                                                                  The same help in a privatized environment costs $40,000+++ per SCHOOL YEAR making help only available to a limited few.
                                                                                  A child with Autism who grows into an adult without ever getting needed help will likely NEVER be able to hold a job. Thus, never be able to regularly pay taxes and essentially end up being a drain on the system (Social Security, welfare).

                                                                                  Yeah...$10 billion bucks for early education programs is asinine...what the fuck is she thinking?!?

                                                                                  My son has Autism...I am grateful these programs exist and anything more any administration wants to throw at education is OK by me. And none of this has anything to do with parental deficiencies. Read up...a child with Autism is devastating for an entire family. Fortunately, I suppose, it's just me and him (yes, I am a single CUSTODIAL parent of a 4-year old with Autism).

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                                                                                  Donate or participate...if you plan of having children the odds are not in your favor...and if you had a narrow-minded response to this thread you might want to rethink it. Karma is a bitch.

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                                                                                  • The Duck
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                                                                                    #42
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                                                                                    • notabook
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Zayne E.
                                                                                      Donate or participate...if you plan of having children the odds are not in your favor...
                                                                                      Well with the odds being 1:150, they most certainly are in your favor, unless you plan on having 150 kids. Not making light of your situation in the least -- just saying that a 1:150 chance of having a kid with autism isn't exactly earth shattering.

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                                                                                      • Zayne E.
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by notabook
                                                                                        Well with the odds being 1:150, they most certainly are in your favor, unless you plan on having 150 kids. Not making light of your situation in the least -- just saying that a 1:150 chance of having a kid with autism isn't exactly earth shattering.
                                                                                        Only a generation ago (when we were kids) the rate was less than 1:2500. Yeah the trend is definitely not earth shattering...it certainly is virtually impossible it could happen to your family.

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                                                                                        • Humpy Leftnut
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by woj
                                                                                          The number sounds huge, but that's pennies compared to cost of for example war in Iraq, according to www.costofwar.com, the war in iraq cost the US 428 Billion so far...
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                                                                                          • Humpy Leftnut
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            OK wake up call here.. Nice to think about educating your 4 year olds, but uhhh when are you going to educate your adults?
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                                                                                            • GatorB
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Zayne E.
                                                                                              Only a generation ago (when we were kids) the rate was less than 1:2500. Yeah the trend is definitely not earth shattering...it certainly is virtually impossible it could happen to your family.
                                                                                              I don't think the rate is actually higher. I think that they are better now at detecting autism than they were 20-25 years ago. There are mild cases where the kid doesn't always seem like he's in lala land. I think those kids 25 years ago probally were just labled lazy or mildly retarded or something else.

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                                                                                              • schneemann
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                I pay $1200 a month in childcare for 2 kids. The sooner I can get their little asses into school, the sooner I can spend that money on hotrod parts!
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                                                                                                • Danny_C
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by pornguy
                                                                                                  I think she should get the 10 billion for the schools. but leave the age at what it is now.
                                                                                                  Exactly. Education should be the single greatest concern, in my opinion. But adding a year does nothing if you don't fix the problems kids are facing during the years they're in there now.

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                                                                                                  • baddog
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Zayne E.
                                                                                                    Only a generation ago (when we were kids) the rate was less than 1:2500. Yeah the trend is definitely not earth shattering...it certainly is virtually impossible it could happen to your family.
                                                                                                    I think the primary reason for the discrepancy in stats (1:150 to 1:2500) is diagnosis.

                                                                                                    A generation ago they did not properly diagnose the problem as being autism.

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