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  • Dodododa
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2010
    • 239
    #1

    Why not sue the end users?

    Remember when Metallica first sued thousands of MP3 downloaders? That made people think twice about downloading free music.

    The RIAA and MPAA still sue torrent and p2p users. Why isn't one of the big porn studios doing the same? It's easy enough to collect the IPs.

    People really don't want their name in the newspaper for downloading illegal porn. Make an example out of a few people and you will put a dent in the illegal porn trade. Just my humble opinion though.
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    • BJ
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2002
      • 5590
      #2
      did you come up with that all on your own spartacus?

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        • cooldude7
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2009
          • 4306
          #3
          porn is sensitive/critical issue.

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            • Dodododa
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2010
              • 239
              #4
              Originally posted by BJ
              did you come up with that all on your own spartacus?
              Ah, I think I deserved that remark come to think of it. This isn't a new idea by any stretch. But why isn't someone doing it?

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                • Paul Markham
                  Too old to care
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 52942
                  #5
                  If you sue the pirates it's no problem. In fact if it can be turned into a profitable part of an organisation even better.

                  They think nothing of taking our hard work for free and think we're stupid. Well let them think that when they get the letter naming them.

                  I find industry people all the time ignoring our license terms. That to me is stealing.



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                    • Roald
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                      • May 2001
                      • 27910
                      #6
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                        • Dodododa
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 239
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                          If you sue the pirates it's no problem. In fact if it can be turned into a profitable part of an organisation even better.

                          They think nothing of taking our hard work for free and think we're stupid. Well let them think that when they get the letter naming them.

                          I find industry people all the time ignoring our license terms. That to me is stealing.
                          Even if 10 of you smaller producers got together and hired a specialist law firm...

                          There are large buildings in New York full of lawyers who only do copyright cases. They have divisions that specialise in Internet cases. Yet where are the convictions? What is wrong with you people?

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                            • Dodododa
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 239
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Roald
                              http://www.xbiz.com/news/news_piece.php?id=129328
                              That's very refreshing news. The key would be to get that news into the mainstream media to serve as a deterrent. Maybe 100,000 convictions would get people's attention.

                              Edit: Looks like the judge squashed the case: http://www.xbiz.com/news/128576
                              Last edited by Dodododa; 01-10-2011, 02:13 AM.

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                                • Paul Markham
                                  Too old to care
                                  • Jun 2001
                                  • 52942
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Dodododa
                                  Even if 10 of you smaller producers got together and hired a specialist law firm...

                                  There are large buildings in New York full of lawyers who only do copyright cases. They have divisions that specialise in Internet cases. Yet where are the convictions? What is wrong with you people?
                                  I was very active in the past. Was a member of APIC trying to get my magazine content off websites that had scanned it.

                                  The answer to piracy isn't just suing the illegal downloaders.

                                  It's reshaping what we sell, how we sell it and how we deliver it. While you have people boasting they are developing ways to get more free content in front of more consumers the problem is FREE content. That's no different than I sold 20 years ago, except for style of the models looks and clothes.

                                  The Internet is just another way to deliver the same old porn that's no different from offline porn. Trying to stop the spread of piracy and free is far harder than suing a few downloaders. Or many.



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                                    • Gerco
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2005
                                      • 2052
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Dodododa
                                      Remember when Metallica first sued thousands of MP3 downloaders? That made people think twice about downloading free music.

                                      The RIAA and MPAA still sue torrent and p2p users. Why isn't one of the big porn studios doing the same? It's easy enough to collect the IPs.

                                      People really don't want their name in the newspaper for downloading illegal porn. Make an example out of a few people and you will put a dent in the illegal porn trade. Just my humble opinion though.
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                                        • Dodododa
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2010
                                          • 239
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Gerco
                                          For fuck sakes... I was saying exactly this 4-5 years ago...
                                          It's worth repeating. I bet a 10% drop in free porn users would provide a 20% jump in your sales.

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                                            • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
                                              (felis madjewicus)
                                              • Jul 2006
                                              • 20368
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Dodododa
                                              Remember when Metallica first sued thousands of MP3 downloaders? That made people think twice about downloading free music.
                                              O rly?

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                                                • CaptainHowdy
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                  • 94736
                                                  #13
                                                  Sue 'em for joining a paysite!

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                                                    • Dodododa
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Oct 2010
                                                      • 239
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Angry Jew Cat
                                                      O rly?
                                                      I was in college at the time. I remember telling friends and family how to download music but they would bring up the news about people getting sued.

                                                      But anyway... the music industry vigorously defended its self. They loaded the P2P networks with junk files, they successfully sued many sharing sites (which people seem to think is impossible, but I guess it depends how good your lawyers are) and they are still going strong, even though their product is even easier to replicate than ours.

                                                      Is there a fighting fund, or do the studios not trust each other enough to get together?

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