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Originally Posted by u-Bob
Look, what I'm saying is: People are master of their own body and property and are free to do with their body and property what they want as long as they don't cause damage to another person or his property. That's 1 very basic rule/principle to prevent injustice. A principle that doesn't change depending on the situation or your geographical location.
Now, if you want an organization like that State... basically an organization that enforces its own set of rules onto people who just happen to be living within certain artificial borders... an organization that constantly creates new rules, rules that are not aimed at preventing injustice but at serving the system... an organization that infringes on people's rights... an organization that violates people's property rights... all in the name of safety and efficiency.... then the burden of proof is on you. Then you need to prove that the State is more efficient, better at providing safety than the free market. then you need to come up with some numbers that support your claim.
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So you dream of some sort of Utopia where everyman is free to decide on his own course of actions, the laws he will abide to and no controlling influence above him.
So go buy a desert island and live there in the fear that no one with a bigger gun than yours decides to live there with you as his slave.
In the real world there's always controls and always someone in charge of you. The concept of freedom as you see it doesn't exist and couldn't exist. Whether it's a democratically elected council on a kibbutz or a Senate there are people laying down the law.
Just pray you have some input and chance to turn the system around because the alternative is dictatorship, by a few men. Usually backed by there army.
Prove the State is "more efficient, better at providing safety than the free market." Prove there is such a thing as the free market. I've never seen it. Even on your desert island you're controlled by Mother Nature.
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Originally Posted by u-Bob
btw: I have been robbed... well, at least they tried... and they didn't succeed... not because the State stopped them, because the state did nothing to stop them... The robbers didn't succeed because I defended my property.
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= I had more power than them.
Next time you might not. In your dream world you definitely wouldn't. Think harder.