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Originally Posted by u-Bob
The places you mentioned are no different from the US or EU. In those places, large gangs of thugs terrorize the population... that essentially is what the State is and does over here. Over here they may be wearing nice suits and have more guns and have created the impression of legitimacy over time, but they are essentially the same.
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Except for the fact the populous gets to elect who those thugs & gang leaders are. We don't get to elect who's in charge of the Bloods, Crips, or Hells Angels.
I do agree to an extent though, and Hells Angels are a perfect example. There's been many times where they came into a neighborhood, took over the drug trade, and kicked all the low-life thugs out. In general, everyone was very appreciative of them coming in, because they're not going to cause you a problem unless you first make one, whereas the lowlife thugs were causing everyone problems.
Nonetheless, that doesn't actually work, and you can't allow humans to police themselves. For example, look at Iraq, after the US disbanded the government & military. It was total anarchy. People had to setup neighborhood watch programs, but unlike the US, these consisted of groups of neighbors rotating nights, carrying around AK-47s at 3am to ensure a militia doesn't rape their wife & kids, and steal all their possessions.
That's the exact world we'd live in if we didn't have laws in place, and a government to enforce them. I'll agree, the government has overstepped their bounds, and many laws we have should be repealed, but nonetheless, we do need laws and they do need to be enforced.
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Originally Posted by u-Bob
In a free world, justice would be enforced. There would be lots of different protection services to chose from. companies selling those services would have an incentive to raise the quality and keep the prices low if they don't want to lose clients.
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I'm sorry, but that thinking is just delusional. I'm sorry, but things wouldn't play out like that AT ALL. If you don't believe me, again, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Sri Lanka, Ivory Coast, Zimbabwe, Republic of Congo, and the list goes on, and on, and on...