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Originally Posted by The Demon
The problem with using "Evidence" on this forum is that both sides will discard ANY signs of evidence that opposes their belief system.. Then the topic begins about what is constituted as "evidence" since it's apparently very relative.
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in this case, "evidence" is, as you say, relative, in the sense that what evidence exists is largely circumstantial and textual.
I happen to be discussing this with a history buff who is arguing that the jesus stories were an invention of the roman secret police to weaken the political imapact of the jeweish rebels after the diaspora. thats a fun conversation. saul/paul as an agent of rome, delivering sacks of gold to the new churches as part of a disinformation campaign. lol.
convieniently explains how they got the money to build the early church.
however it may be an unneccessary flourish. occams razor doesn't require it, people under the stresses of such a time are perfectly capable of starting messianic movements without the help of secret police.