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  • LoveAsianChicks
    Registered User
    • Mar 2002
    • 1464

    #1

    BigPlayers - converting bad

    I wanted to give BigPlayers a decent try because $50 a signup would add up fast.
    Conversion rates were real crappy for me. 1:2438 and I don't blindlink or anything.

    I decided to e-mail 3 people who submitted a gallery using a BigPlayers ad, and basically asked what their conversions were like, do they submit to many tgps, and I asked if the sponsor they used before converted better.

    All 3 replied with pretty much the same info:

    1:2300
    1:1980
    1:3742

    All 3 webmasters said they submit to at least 50 TGPs daily.

    All 3 claimed their other sponsors are converting better with tgp traffic when using similar advertising methods.

    On another thread at GFY, the "FLY" mentioned sending some traffic and getting jackshit in return.

    Is BigPlayers shaving or their sites just don't convert very well?
    I'm sure a few are going to reply saying they get 1:50 signup ratio then spam their referral code, but I'm looking for serious replies.

    Is it doing well for you?
    Last edited by LoveAsianChicks; 05-11-2002, 04:07 AM.
  • vidsweb
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2002
    • 698

    #2
    Just look at their sites....they suck ass!

    Their tours are shitty. Their sites look like they are 2-3 years old.

    Shitty content + Boring tours = No sales
    Just give'r

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    • GTS Mark
      Vrume Mark
      • Jan 2001
      • 20912

      #3
      I think I remember someone also posting that the signup cost to the customer was $49.99. That is a pretty hard one to sell....

      Sure $19.99 or $29.99 a month but $49.99 is pretty steep. Correct me if I'm wrong on this.

      DH

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      • TDF
        Triple OG nigga on GFY
        • Mar 2002
        • 27296

        #4
        from what i see they offer a 3 day trial for 2.95, 1 week for 9.95 and a year for 99.95.I dont see a monthly option.Also if they say they pay $50 on trials shouldnt the webmaster be making money on such a cheap trial?
        Last edited by TDF; 05-11-2002, 08:07 AM.
        Sig heil

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        • amatrus
          Registered User
          • Jan 2002
          • 95

          #5
          Originally posted by DrinkingHard
          I think I remember someone also posting that the signup cost to the customer was $49.99. That is a pretty hard one to sell....

          Sure $19.99 or $29.99 a month but $49.99 is pretty steep. Correct me if I'm wrong on this.

          DH
          Wanted to post the same until I wrote your post.
          They pay so much 'cause they charge 50$....

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          • Steve
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2001
            • 6894

            #6
            you know, people tried to warn you on the earlier thread

            but you suckers will bend over and supply the KY if anyone whispers $50/sale

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            • Terenzo
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2002
              • 971

              #7
              get into a deal that sounds realistic ... and you will make decent money ... how much money would *you* be willing to pay for a trial signup to your paysite???
              Signature Spot - USD 5000 / month

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              • alias
                aliasx
                • Apr 2001
                • 19010

                #8
                fuck big players house!
                https://porncorporation.com

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                • SinEmpire
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 9813

                  #9
                  I haven't used Big Players so I can't speak to their conversions, etc. However, I would say that their tours and designs look just as good as anyone elses. Why no sales? I have no idea. But, when you start signing up for programs that pay $50 for a trial membership you have to expect that you're not going to be converting in really high numbers.

                  I suggest picking more middle of the road sponsors with revenue shares or per sign up amounts that seem reasonable. As a rule of thumb things that seem too good to be true usually are. I would also note that every program that has such a high per signup program ALWAYS whores out the exit traffic - that's why the big payout.

                  Forget what you hear about their retention, most paysites only retain about 20-35% of their trial signups into a renewal. Do the math yourself and you'll see how dependant they are on making sales with the exit traffic.

                  Most efforts to make a quick buck will always fail. I recommend patronizing affiliate programs that don't fuck the surfer. When you join a program you SHOULD be concerned about what the monthly renewals are... Check out their tours yourself and see how many hide the terms and conditions OR the renewal amount for that matter.

                  Most of you probably don't think like I do. However, I always recommend using affiliate programs where you believe in the product and pricing.

                  Cheers!

                  Brad
                  President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
                  71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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                  • pipp
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 1185

                    #10
                    Big players offer a 3 day free trail if Im not mistaking. This trial renews at $49,95 every 30 days. And they are paying 50$ pr active member right? Surfers are probably scared shitless and canceling their free trials as the same rate as my mad monkey hitbot team in the basement are clicking

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                    • SinEmpire
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 9813

                      #11
                      Alot of the people buying memberships on the web buy LOTS of memberships. They're getting smarter because they've been fucked so many times. Someone once told me that some of these guys average 7 website subscriptions.

                      Brad
                      President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
                      71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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                      • aadam
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 1

                        #12
                        For me they convert around 1:1300, but I got much more hits a day in comparison with other sponsors. I guess, they count your hits more exactly. Lastly it´s important, what you make out of the traffic of your site, not the conversion ratio. For me it´s one of the five or six good sponsors rotating on my hardcore sites.
                        @pipp - So far I know, they pay 50$ for the free trial, not necessary the active member, but the free trial is only accessable by online check for US and Canadian citizens.
                        Last edited by aadam; 05-11-2002, 12:04 PM.
                        <a href="http://www.bigplayers.com/bp.php?player=240366">Big Players - 50$ for a free signup</a>

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                        • Theo
                          HAL 9000
                          • May 2001
                          • 34515

                          #13
                          great,many webmasters use them but they dont know for what kind of signup they get paid and how much the surfer is charged.

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