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  • cherrylula
    lol
    • Jan 2002
    • 15969
    #1

    Average Conversions in Adult these days.

    I remember when sales were averaging 1:250 on tgp traffic. Today's average? I have no idea, things have changed so much.

    I remember when you could make an avs and make a sale like 1:25 the same night.

    and then google would update, the SE traffic would come, and you could get nice terms coming in real fast and sales like popcorn.

    fuuuuck.... with the tubes I have no idea what a decent conversion is, haven't been freshening things up enough lol
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    • Agent 488
      Registered User
      • Feb 2006
      • 22511
      #2
      between 1:25 and 1:15,000.

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        • cherrylula
          lol
          • Jan 2002
          • 15969
          #3
          and then the blog thing blew up... I fucking hate blogs now.

          I have a bunch of sites to update, and I swear I am going to nuke all the blogs I find. Just because.

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            • cherrylula
              lol
              • Jan 2002
              • 15969
              #4
              Originally posted by Agent 488
              between 1:25 and 1:15,000.
              I would think double digit conversions are like ancient internet history now, like wagons and horses.

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                • Si
                  Such Fun!
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 13900
                  #5
                  1:500 - 1:1000 on my best sponsors

                  1:10000 on others

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                    • cherrylula
                      lol
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 15969
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Si
                      1:500 - 1:1000 on my best sponsors

                      1:10000 on others
                      what kind of traffic? if you don't mind saying...

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                        • loreen
                          myadultdesign.com
                          • May 2004
                          • 12558
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Agent 488
                          between 1:25 and 1:15,000.
                          That.
                          I have few niche blogs that average a 1:20 - 1:100 ratio on constant basis (for years, now). And then there is general stuff that can go up to 0:20.000 (after which I drop the sponsor )
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                            • djroof
                              JuicyDevils.gr Owner
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 25505
                              #8
                              hard days for porn...

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                                • loreen
                                  myadultdesign.com
                                  • May 2004
                                  • 12558
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by cherrylula
                                  and then the blog thing blew up... I fucking hate blogs now. I have a bunch of sites to update, and I swear I am going to nuke all the blogs I find. Just because.
                                  Then don't update. I have blogs with 5 good written posts that gather even as much as 5k daily SE traffic. I haven't touched those for months and I don't intend to
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                                    • Robbie
                                      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 20960
                                      #10
                                      Piracy bringing full scenes for free everywhere has no doubt hurt our business badly.

                                      But when it comes to just conversion averages...we have to realize that a few other things are at play as well.

                                      In the mid to late 1990's conversions were fucking low as hell...but if you think about it, EVERYBODY that was online then had money. Computers were expensive compared to today. Relatively few knew how to use them. So it was people with decent jobs and well educated who had credit cards.

                                      Today? Everybody has a computer and a fast internet connection. God knows for every real potential customer today we probably have 10,000 people who are either Kids, Unemployed, Poor, or No Credit Card. And none of those folks are gonna buy memberships today.

                                      I stopped worrying about conversion ratios back around 2003. I decided that there was only one number that really mattered: Net Income.
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                                        • djroof
                                          JuicyDevils.gr Owner
                                          • Jan 2004
                                          • 25505
                                          #11
                                          people has their credit cards blocked...

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                                            • cherrylula
                                              lol
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 15969
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Robbie
                                              Piracy bringing full scenes for free everywhere has no doubt hurt our business badly.

                                              But when it comes to just conversion averages...we have to realize that a few other things are at play as well.

                                              In the mid to late 1990's conversions were fucking low as hell...but if you think about it, EVERYBODY that was online then had money. Computers were expensive compared to today. Relatively few knew how to use them. So it was people with decent jobs and well educated who had credit cards.

                                              Today? Everybody has a computer and a fast internet connection. God knows for every real potential customer today we probably have 10,000 people who are either Kids, Unemployed, Poor, or No Credit Card. And none of those folks are gonna buy memberships today.

                                              I stopped worrying about conversion ratios back around 2003. I decided that there was only one number that really mattered: Net Income.
                                              I actually was just thinking this exact thing. Like how many more people in general are online, many of which are broke ass freeloaders. lol

                                              and yeah the tube thing...

                                              But niche will always work if you do it right. I think I need to just push the foulest thing I can find.

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                                                • BIGTYMER
                                                  Junior Achiever
                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                  • 17066
                                                  #13
                                                  1:500 - 1:2000

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                                                    • cherrylula
                                                      lol
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 15969
                                                      #14
                                                      I lost a handful of sites in the reality check network thing, so I am going to start over with a few things and need to figure out some new places to send traffic, long term. It's like the smoke is clearing a little for me with all the companies going under and sold the past few years. Who's left? lol

                                                      I've lost a shit-ton of sponsors!

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                                                        • Chris
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 27880
                                                          #15
                                                          i like to keep my guys between 1:10-1:20 on good traffic ;)
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                                                            • Si
                                                              Such Fun!
                                                              • Feb 2008
                                                              • 13900
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by cherrylula
                                                              what kind of traffic? if you don't mind saying...
                                                              blog and seo mostly

                                                              direct/blind/trades/shit traffic is where the 1:10000 kicks in.

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                                                                • Penny24Seven
                                                                  So Fucking What
                                                                  • Jun 2007
                                                                  • 6287
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Our best site was doing better then 1:120 till a year ago, now it is at 1:250, it gets good traffic though and not very much either so that helps.
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                                                                    • Nicky
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 30071
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Niche stuff still converts good. But like Robbie says It's the net income that is the important part, everything else is just numbers.

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                                                                        • scubadiver626
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2006
                                                                          • 1034
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Review sites still regularly convert incredibly well. I've seen bestporn and Rabbit send 10 signups out of 100 hits before.

                                                                          I've seen a 404 pusher send 100,000 a day and he's lucky to get 1.
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                                                                            • cherrylula
                                                                              lol
                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                              • 15969
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by scubadiver626
                                                                              Review sites still regularly convert incredibly well. I've seen bestporn and Rabbit send 10 signups out of 100 hits before.

                                                                              I've seen a 404 pusher send 100,000 a day and he's lucky to get 1.
                                                                              Yeah I would imagine those numbers sound about right. Hmm never thought about a review site but these days that is probably the best idea if you want to push quality sites.

                                                                              I still have so many links out there to shitty old paysites still alive with crap member areas I am sure. Poor surfers. lol

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                                                                                • john FVC
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                  • 671
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Last week our best site was doing 1:126 and all are CCBill sponsors


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                                                                                    • BIGTYMER
                                                                                      Junior Achiever
                                                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                                                      • 17066
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Why would anyone ever pay for porn when it said $1 and you ended up getting charged $140?

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                                                                                        • Brujah
                                                                                          Beer Money Baron
                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                          • 22157
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          It's all about the presell.

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                                                                                            • Arnox
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Sep 2009
                                                                                              • 2169
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              I'm 1:3062 overall.
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                                                                                                • cooldude7
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Nov 2009
                                                                                                  • 4306
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  my new sponsor converts like 1:178, and others are like hell,

                                                                                                  tgp , 1: 3k
                                                                                                  tube 1:15k
                                                                                                  webcams 0:30k

                                                                                                  sucks.

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                                                                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                                                                      Too old to care
                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                      • 52942
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      In the beginning'

                                                                                                      Very little traffic and ratios 1-200
                                                                                                      Then traffic grew and it became 1-400
                                                                                                      Then traffic grew and it became 1-1000
                                                                                                      Then traffic grew and it became 1-2000

                                                                                                      Then traffic declined and it became 1-5000

                                                                                                      But the solution is MORE TRAFFIC. LOL



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                                                                                                        • Nicky
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                          • 30071
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by cooldude7
                                                                                                          my new sponsor converts like 1:178, and others are like hell,

                                                                                                          tgp , 1: 3k
                                                                                                          tube 1:15k
                                                                                                          webcams 0:30k

                                                                                                          sucks.
                                                                                                          I have an over-all in 2010 of 1:1217

                                                                                                          Some are at 1:300 some at 1:2000. The ones I send most sales to are between 1:300 and 1:1000.

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                                                                                                            • SpicyM
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                                                              • 4575
                                                                                                              #28
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                                                                                                                • Chezter
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Apr 2008
                                                                                                                  • 565
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  On my blogs that has most of the traffic from SE it is 1:1000 to 1:2500 on traditional niches, micro niches are better, but getting traffic for them is not easy for me. On my tube site are ratios extremely bad, but I use it most for promoting cams, so I almost don't care.

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                                                                                                                    • tranza
                                                                                                                      ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                      • 57559
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      I consider anything below 1:2000 to be good nowadays... And that's just sad.
                                                                                                                      I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                                                        • Nick-Mindgeek
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Nov 2007
                                                                                                                          • 700
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Living by the 'ratio' is the most misleading thing you can ever do.


                                                                                                                          I've seen campaigns at 1:2000 make more money than campaigns at 1:1000


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                                                                                                                            • Pornwolf
                                                                                                                              Drunk and Unruly
                                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                              • 22712
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              lol

                                                                                                                              Some folks don't seem to remember when 1:1000 was considered shit.
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                                                                                                                                • pornguy
                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 62912
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  I have guys with TGP's that average about 1:200 + and guys with blogs in the same area.
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                                                                                                                                    • AzteK
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 3451
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by neeko
                                                                                                                                      Living by the 'ratio' is the most misleading thing you can ever do.


                                                                                                                                      I've seen campaigns at 1:2000 make more money than campaigns at 1:1000


                                                                                                                                      What you're saying doesn't make sense to me. Unless the 1:2000 is making more per signup, maybe. Otherwise the EPC is lower. Can you explain more?

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                                                                                                                                        • HowlingWulf
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 1662
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by AzteK
                                                                                                                                          What you're saying doesn't make sense to me. Unless the 1:2000 is making more per signup, maybe. Otherwise the EPC is lower. Can you explain more?
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                                                                                                                                            • Si
                                                                                                                                              Such Fun!
                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2008
                                                                                                                                              • 13900
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by AzteK
                                                                                                                                              What you're saying doesn't make sense to me. Unless the 1:2000 is making more per signup, maybe. Otherwise the EPC is lower. Can you explain more?
                                                                                                                                              or,

                                                                                                                                              the 1:1000 only sent 2 sales and made $80

                                                                                                                                              and the 1:2000 sent 20 sales and made $400

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                                                                                                                                                • Roald
                                                                                                                                                  SecretFriends.com
                                                                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 27910
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by AzteK
                                                                                                                                                  What you're saying doesn't make sense to me. Unless the 1:2000 is making more per signup, maybe. Otherwise the EPC is lower. Can you explain more?
                                                                                                                                                  What he is saying is to look at the bottom line


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                                                                                                                                                    • PR_Glen
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                                                                                                      • 9058
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      the overall average of every webmasters ratio would be a useless piece of information given how many different ways there are to advertise sites these days... not to mention the differences in niches and site types etc...
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                                                                                                                                                        • cherrylula
                                                                                                                                                          lol
                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 15969
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                                                                                                                          lol

                                                                                                                                                          Some folks don't seem to remember when 1:1000 was considered shit.
                                                                                                                                                          I know. Thank you.

                                                                                                                                                          that is like legend now. hah

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                                                                                                                                                            • cherrylula
                                                                                                                                                              lol
                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 15969
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              It always has been the bottom line, of course. And today's complexities of niches with sites available and different traffic sources makes it impossible to have an overall average that makes any sense.

                                                                                                                                                              But this is a good thread, and thanks to everyone for their replies.

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                                                                                                                                                                • czarina
                                                                                                                                                                  Webmaster Extraordinaire
                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 10752
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  with exclusive content, in a niche like mine (shemale solo sites), we average about 1:800 to 1:1200. I would've been in shock with these ratios about 5 years ago, but now I consider them pretty good.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • cherrylula
                                                                                                                                                                      lol
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 15969
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      I wonder what things will be like in another 5-10 years. Craziness.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                                                          :glugglug
                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 26118
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Average, overall for the entire industry is 1:XXXX.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • wehateporn
                                                                                                                                                                              Promoting Debate on GFY
                                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2007
                                                                                                                                                                              • 27176
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              When looking at my stats, I add up all the revenue from sales/rebills over a period of time and then divide by the total numbers of clicks. I like to know how much it's worth per thousand clicks, so I then times by 1000, which can typically give me a figure such as $40.43 per 1000 clicks

                                                                                                                                                                              My excuse is I studied Statistics at a rather high level

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                                                                                                                                                                                • fatfoo
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 27763
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
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                                                                                                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 31
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      My first sale on an established milf affiliate program from a new blog I started:

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Toni
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 2697
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by cherrylula
                                                                                                                                                                                          I remember when you could make an avs and make a sale like 1:25 the same night.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Samantha_xox2000
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 866
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              It depends on how many sales/period you are doing. People that say 1:20 probably sending 1-2 sales. If you send more than 15-20 sales in the given period, 1:300-1:500 is a very good ratio nowdays.
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