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  • gornyhuy
    Chafed.
    • May 2002
    • 18041
    #1

    Lifters: Anybody use any thermogenics?

    I'm in pretty damn good shape, been doing tons of martial arts, cardio, weights and abs/core workouts all winter, but I'm wondering if there isn't a wonder supplement that I could take for 6 weeks to put me into that super ripped zero body fat look in time for the beach.

    Not ephedra - not diuretics, but other thermogenics???

    Not looking for huge - just that last bit to get "ripped". Any recommendations?

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    • who
      So Fucking Banned
      • Aug 2003
      • 19593
      #2
      Yes, water. Drink it almost constantly for 6 weeks, increase vitamin intake (as the increased water intake will result in lots of them getting lost through urine).

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        • blink0
          Registered User
          • Aug 2006
          • 51
          #3
          dinitrophenol

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            • robfantasy
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              • Jun 2002
              • 6445
              #4
              lipo 6 + ephedrine + leukik + test booster
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                • Forest
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2001
                  • 9135
                  #5
                  I dont take any thermogenics but i do take vitamins and sups and i drink a shit load of water

                  multi vitamin
                  flax seed oil
                  Creatine (30 days on)
                  CLA
                  Amino Fuel
                  and Zero carb Protien Powder

                  Seems to be working for me Ive been hard at it for the last 8 weeks non stop and im looking really tight

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                    • gornyhuy
                      Chafed.
                      • May 2002
                      • 18041
                      #6
                      Originally posted by who
                      Yes, water. Drink it almost constantly for 6 weeks, increase vitamin intake (as the increased water intake will result in lots of them getting lost through urine).
                      I drink about 2 liters a day already, but I'm not supplementing at all - i'm probably losing a lot of vitamins by pissing so much.

                      icq:159548293

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                        • gornyhuy
                          Chafed.
                          • May 2002
                          • 18041
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Forest
                          I dont take any thermogenics but i do take vitamins and sups and i drink a shit load of water

                          multi vitamin
                          flax seed oil
                          Creatine (30 days on)
                          CLA
                          Amino Fuel
                          and Zero carb Protien Powder

                          Seems to be working for me Ive been hard at it for the last 8 weeks non stop and im looking really tight
                          Doesn't creatine cause you to retain a lot of water and look kind of "full" rather than ripped?

                          What about the others - i've heard a lot of good things about flax oil, never tried CLA or amino fuel....

                          Hmmm - decisions decisions.

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                            • UniversalPass Pete
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                              • Dec 2004
                              • 7368
                              #8
                              Work out harder, eat less!


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                                • gornyhuy
                                  Chafed.
                                  • May 2002
                                  • 18041
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by UniversalPass Pete
                                  Work out harder, eat less!
                                  Yeah, sadly this is what i keep coming back to.
                                  Looks like I'll just add massive road work and some more large muscle group lifting (squats for example) to increase the burn.

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                                    • Odin
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                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 2545
                                      #10
                                      Clenbuterol if I am not mistaken is what 90% of Bodybuilders use to help them looking ripped. You won't be able to buy it off the shelf, but if you know a few guys at the gym someone should be able to hook you up I guess.

                                      (Keep in mind, I don't really know that much about it, but I know some guys who workout alot and swear by it, and Google talks positively about it also)
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                                        • tony299
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                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 57021
                                          #11
                                          The zero fat super ripped look is achieved by lots of drugs and diuretics. Also whats your body fat percentage currently?

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                                              #12
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                                                • Forest
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                  • 9135
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by gornyhuy
                                                  Doesn't creatine cause you to retain a lot of water and look kind of "full" rather than ripped?

                                                  What about the others - i've heard a lot of good things about flax oil, never tried CLA or amino fuel....

                                                  Hmmm - decisions decisions.
                                                  creatine does cause water retention as it increases the cells water content but it increases muscle size and recovery as well

                                                  CLA will help lean u out and and give u a bit more tone (Conjugated Linoleic Acid)

                                                  "Amino fuel is a fast absorbing anabolic liquid amino acid that has, per serving, 15 grams (15,000 mg) of high quality branched chain, peptide-bonded, and free amino acids."

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                                                    • tony299
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                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 57021
                                                      #14
                                                      http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/south133.htm
                                                      good article about it

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                                                        • JD
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                          • 22651
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Chief
                                                          Clenbuterol if I am not mistaken is what 90% of Bodybuilders use to help them looking ripped. You won't be able to buy it off the shelf, but if you know a few guys at the gym someone should be able to hook you up I guess.

                                                          (Keep in mind, I don't really know that much about it, but I know some guys who workout alot and swear by it, and Google talks positively about it also)

                                                          you can buy it online no questions asked. I've bought it before ;)

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                                                            • RFremont
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Sep 2006
                                                              • 621
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by robfantasy
                                                              lipo 6 + ephedrine + leukik + test booster

                                                              I've know leukik and ephedrine but what is lipo 6? and by test booster, you mean like tribulis?

                                                              The problem with clen is it can get you jittery, heart racing and stuff like that.

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                                                                • chupacabra
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                  • 3626
                                                                  #17
                                                                  clenbuterol if you can tolerate the sides, really good for giving you that 'carved' look if you've already built some good muscle mass up already..
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                                                                        • JD
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                          • 22651
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by chupacabra
                                                                          clenbuterol if you can tolerate the sides, really good for giving you that 'carved' look if you've already built some good muscle mass up already..
                                                                          haha yeah clen is the shit if you can live with having parkinsons for a while

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                                                                            • BJ
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                              • 5590
                                                                              #20
                                                                              1. Animal Pak Multi (important to take good multi as you'll be cutting down on food)
                                                                              2. Lipo 6
                                                                              3. NO tabs (take right before bed as well)

                                                                              Cardio 45 minutes 5x week.

                                                                              Most importantly eat 6 times a day, small meals. Im down to 200lbs and around 10% bf from 225 in about 8 weeks. Cut way back in carbs except for one cheat day a week. If you lift, be prepared to lose a little strength and muscle and not have as much energy.

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                                                                                • tical
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                  • 6504
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  http://www.thermorexin.com/
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                                                                                    • tony299
                                                                                      lurker
                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                      • 57021
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      once again what is your starting bf percentage?

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                                                                                        • seeric
                                                                                          ..........
                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                          • 41917
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          drop salt from your diet. drink plenty of water. do low impact cardio and high rep low weight MACHINE workouts.

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                                                                                            • BradM
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                              • 3397
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Thermogenics fuck me up in the worst way. I took them while I was playing hockey and I wanted to die.

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                                                                                                • chupacabra
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                  • 3626
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by blink0
                                                                                                  dinitrophenol
                                                                                                  lol, i didn't catch that first time through this thread... i'm taking 400mg of DNP ED at the moment and it is rough stuff, cardio is *out* while on it for me... night sweats are harsh but i will admit it is powerful stuff. not something to play w/ for the uninitiated though..

                                                                                                  ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                                                                                    • k0nr4d
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                                                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                                                      • 9231
                                                                                                      #26
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                                                                                                        • tony299
                                                                                                          lurker
                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                          • 57021
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          instead of calling out product and drug names ,the first step is to know what his bf percentage is.

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                                                                                                            • ER!C L!VE
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                                                                                                              • 724
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                                                                                                                • gornyhuy
                                                                                                                  Chafed.
                                                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                                                  • 18041
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  I have no fucking clue what my real BF is... its been YEARS since I had it measured. Its definitely on the low side, but that doesn't tell you shit.

                                                                                                                  I'm not looking for anything with real side effects, so most likely I'll just do some basic supps and tweak out my meals, increase my cardio, and increase my weight lifting on large muscle groups to increase overall metabolism.

                                                                                                                  Thanks for all this info - lots of good reading in this thread.

                                                                                                                  icq:159548293

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                                                                                                                    • gornyhuy
                                                                                                                      Chafed.
                                                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                                                      • 18041
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                      http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/south133.htm
                                                                                                                      good article about it
                                                                                                                      Damn!! good article, thanks!

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                                                                                                                        • gornyhuy
                                                                                                                          Chafed.
                                                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                                                          • 18041
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Here is a book by that guy in the article... looks good:
                                                                                                                          http://www.amazon.com/Lean-Body-Prom...8676577&sr=1-1

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                                                                                                                            • tony299
                                                                                                                              lurker
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                              • 57021
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by gornyhuy
                                                                                                                              I have no fucking clue what my real BF is... its been YEARS since I had it measured. Its definitely on the low side, but that doesn't tell you shit.

                                                                                                                              I'm not looking for anything with real side effects, so most likely I'll just do some basic supps and tweak out my meals, increase my cardio, and increase my weight lifting on large muscle groups to increase overall metabolism.

                                                                                                                              Thanks for all this info - lots of good reading in this thread.
                                                                                                                              Find a local college that offers body fat testing in water its the only true testing. If you dont know your body fat its going to be very hard to achieve what your looking to achieve. Here GA state offers it and its cheap. Dont know where you live might want to check these people out if they have location by you. http://www.getdunked.com/pages/defau..._id=UIXDF30100

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                                                                                                                                • LilBro
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  get Winstrol

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                                                                                                                                    • Forest
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 9135
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      dude stay away from the "quick fixes"

                                                                                                                                      and go for the long term effects of good diet and exercise

                                                                                                                                      here is some info on CLA

                                                                                                                                      http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbinfo.php?page=CLA

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                                                                                                                                        • tical
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 6504
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by chupacabra
                                                                                                                                          lol, i didn't catch that first time through this thread... i'm taking 400mg of DNP ED at the moment and it is rough stuff, cardio is *out* while on it for me... night sweats are harsh but i will admit it is powerful stuff. not something to play w/ for the uninitiated though..

                                                                                                                                          you're running DNP? you've got balls man, hehe I knew a few guys that did that the first couple times w/o a hitch and then got comfy w/ it and almost died

                                                                                                                                          be safe man!
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                                                                                                                                            • tony299
                                                                                                                                              lurker
                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 57021
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by chupacabra
                                                                                                                                              lol, i didn't catch that first time through this thread... i'm taking 400mg of DNP ED at the moment and it is rough stuff, cardio is *out* while on it for me... night sweats are harsh but i will admit it is powerful stuff. not something to play w/ for the uninitiated though..

                                                                                                                                              Are you out of your fucking mind, whats your goal to leave a good looking corpse lol

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                                                                                                                                                • DTK
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                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 4546
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by gornyhuy
                                                                                                                                                  I drink about 2 liters a day already, but I'm not supplementing at all - i'm probably losing a lot of vitamins by pissing so much.
                                                                                                                                                  2 liters a day is nothing, man...swear to god, unless you weigh 80 pounds, you're dehydrated. You should be close to one ounce of water per pound of bodyweight.
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                                                                                                                                                    • chupacabra
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                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 3626
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by tical
                                                                                                                                                      you're running DNP? you've got balls man, hehe I knew a few guys that did that the first couple times w/o a hitch and then got comfy w/ it and almost died

                                                                                                                                                      be safe man!
                                                                                                                                                      i'm pretty tolerant to it, i wouldn't ever touch any higher dosage ED like some protocols call for, but the 400mg ED is doable for me. a good friend ended up in the hospital from it once when using before a show, but the dumbass had decided to use some Lasix as well while on it... only thing dumber would have been to mix it up w/ tren-E and slin..!
                                                                                                                                                      ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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