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Old 11-25-2010, 08:12 AM  
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Originally Posted by DVTimes View Post
you will find that for many years in the uk we did have free education. in fact you even got money too for going.

we also have the nhs.

and yes if you earn more you pay it back in tax, so you pay regardless.

what is wrong with free housing?
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Originally Posted by dcalm View Post
Well, there is in few places. Of course you need to have for a flat etc., but there are countries where universities are free or at least dirty cheap (Poland i.e.). Again the education level is top level and I say it with sarcasm as generally education system is outdated AS FUCK... so i mean good in bad :D
Over here, we have free health care, child support, cheap housing for the poor, free education until you are 12 and cheap education after that (and some of the best in the world according to the statistics), state grants for the poor, free housing for refugees, free transportation for those over 65, free education and training for the unemployed,... Every employee can take a 5 year leave of work and still get 80% of his former salary (paid for by the state). Fathers get 3 months of paternity leave (again 80% of their salary paid for by the state).

and you know what? I want to get rid of it all! Why? Because I realize that it's not free at all. We're all paying for it. We pay for it every time the government has to bail out another bank, we pay for it through hidden taxes (Every time the government takes out another loan, it decreases the value of our money. Guess who gets hit hardest by that? The poor!), we pay for it through direct taxes, we pay for it in loss of liberty, we pay for it with our health,....
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