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Originally Posted by roly
so the state should contribute something.
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The State pays for nothing. The State costs billions. It's tax payers who pay. If you want higher taxes then vote for them and be prepared to see your contributions the the State rise 10% or more.
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Originally Posted by roly
that's correct but not the point. i agree that students should make a contribution, i also think it should vary according to the type of degree taken. students taking vocational degrees like engineering, computing, law, medicine etc should pay less than people taking some arts degrees and stupid degrees like media studies. But it shouldn't be just the student that contributes. After living expenses etc students are going to have loans of £50k+ which is prohibitive to poorer students. and before you say poor students won't have to pay, there'll be a lot of students who are not considered poor but whose parents couldn't afford to contribute anything.
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Yes certain degrees should cost less, not sure about the law ones though.
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Originally Posted by AdultKing
Yes but you don't need to come up with that money up front to go to Uni, you pay it back when you have the income to do so. Is this not correct ?
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The gap I see in the proposed system is after someone gets a degree. Works in the UK for 5 years getting the experience. What's to stop them emigrating abroad and not having to pay the loan back?
The problem is simple. The UK like many Western Nations has dug a hole for itself. They have a massive debt to repay. A debt that kept people like DVTimes in his free house, free NHS and everything else he gets for free. So money has to be found and cuts have to be made. If not on further education where?