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  • SallyRand
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jan 2008
    • 3487

    #1

    I'm Thankful For Algore............

    ....... admitting that he is indeed nothing but a politician concerned only about getting votes and who really doesn't give a good damn about the environment!

    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/11...was-a-mistake/

    Al Gore Mea Culpa: Support for Corn-Based Ethanol Was a Mistake:

    "Now he tells us. Al Gore says his support for corn-based ethanol subsidies while serving as vice president was a mistake that had more to do with his desire to cultivate farm votes in the 2000 presidential election than with what was good for the environment.

    "It is not a good policy to have these massive subsidies for first-generation ethanol," Gore said at a green energy conference in Athens, Greece, according to Reuters. First generation refers to the most basic, energy-intensive process of converting corn to ethanol for use as a motor vehicle fuel additive.

    Former Vice President Al GoreOn reflection, Gore said the energy conversion ratios -- how much energy is produced in the process -- "are at best very small." "One of the reasons I made that mistake is that I paid particular attention to the farmers in my home state of Tennessee," he said, "and I had a certain fondness for the farmers in the state of Iowa because I was about to run for president."

    Federal ethanol subsidies reached $7.7 billion last year, Reuters said, and the bio-fuel industry faced criticism in 2008 as food prices rose with ethanol consuming ever more of the corn crop and drawing down feedstocks. Gore now favors second-generation ethanol, using farm waste and switchgrass to produce the fuel.

    Growth Energy CEO Tom Buis, representing ethanol producers, took issue with Gore on Tuesday. "The contributions of first generation ethanol to our nation's economy, environment and energy production are not a mistake, but a success story," he said in a statement.

    On the political front, Gore said he was not optimistic that Congress would pass a clean energy bill or climate legislation over the next two years with Republicans in control of the House of Representatives."

    Algore as he wanted you to see him:



    Algore as he really is:



    Last edited by SallyRand; 11-24-2010, 02:25 PM.
  • Agent 488
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    • Feb 2006
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    • fatfoo
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      • Mar 2003
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      #3
      The manbearpig caricature is interesting. It is drawn well. Perhaps it is an over exaggeration.
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      • SallyRand
        So Fucking Banned
        • Jan 2008
        • 3487

        #4
        Originally posted by Agent 488
        GFY Rules and Regulations!

        9. False accusations against a person or company. We all want to know what companies and individuals have done you wrong. Just make sure you back any claims you make up with solid proof. If you plan on calling someone a scammer, liar, cheat, or anything else, have your proof in order and post it with your claim. False accusations will be grounds for immediate banning.
        Yes indeed!

        BAN ALGORE NOW!

        http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/11...was-a-mistake/



        Last edited by SallyRand; 11-24-2010, 02:28 PM.

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        • PornMD
          Mainstream Businessman
          • Jan 2007
          • 9291

          #5
          You mean a politician is a politician? Stop the presses!
          Want to crush it in mainstream with Facebook ads? Hit me up.

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          • SallyRand
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jan 2008
            • 3487

            #6
            Originally posted by PornMD
            You mean a politician is a politician? Stop the presses!
            No surprise there but it is very unusual for them to actually admit it!

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            • Vendzilla
              Biker Gnome
              • Mar 2004
              • 23200

              #7
              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
              think about that

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              • JustDaveXxx
                I AM JUSTDAVE !
                • Feb 2005
                • 4111

                #8
                Fuck Al Gore!! And all hypocritical politicians.


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                • docputer
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 1103

                  #9
                  Sally,
                  What are you going to do with your Al Gore collectible statue now?

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                  • tony286
                    lurker
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 57021

                    #10
                    I hope a real radical rightie comes in. It will be interesting.

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                    • dyna mo
                      just a fucking jerk
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 68184

                      #11
                      so is this good news or bad news?

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                      • tony286
                        lurker
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 57021

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                        so is this good news or bad news?
                        its nothing news. ethernol is better than giving money to people who want us dead.

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                        • docputer
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 1103

                          #13
                          I saw some story on the news yesterday, that because of the ethanol production , food costs are going to go up drastically in 2011. Hope we get plenty of mileage out of it ethanol wise.

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                          • cykoe6
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 4499

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SallyRand
                            One of the reasons I made that mistake is that I paid particular attention to the farmers in my home state of Tennessee," he said, "and I had a certain fondness for the farmers in the state of Iowa because I was about to run for president."
                            It is certainly not news that Al Gore is a liar and a hypocrite peddling snake oil to gullible fools while he gets rich..... but it is a bit surprising for him to so openly admit it.
                            бабки, шлюхи, сила

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                            • SallyRand
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 3487

                              #15
                              Originally posted by docputer
                              Sally,
                              What are you going to do with your Al Gore collectible statue now?

                              Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......................

                              I guess I could take the Plastic Jesus off the dashboard of my car and put the Algore statue there, maybe???!!!!

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                              • Bill8
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 1901

                                #16
                                Originally posted by SallyRand
                                No surprise there but it is very unusual for them to actually admit it!
                                The capacity to admit a mistake is one of the signs of maturity and responsibility. Let's see if any republicans admit their mistakes in the future, because as far as I can remember, they sure havn't admitted mistakes as of yet. Much like guilty children.

                                If anyone can point out examples of republicans admitting mistakes, please do.

                                Corn ethanol was a mistake, as are most ethanols until we get desperate for liquid fuels, which we will before most of us here die. All of the scientists looking at the EROI said it was a mistake, but when gas was over $4 a gallon the people started agitating for solutions, especially american solutions, and corn ethanol was the only thing on the shelf.

                                There simply is no good liquid fuel substiture with anything like the EROI of petroleum. We will only use the alternative liquid fuels when we are forced to, and when that time comes only the military will be able to afford the power and conveinience of petroleum and fossil carbon fuels. The government and the wealthy will have to make do with the inherent deficiencies of alcohols and plant oils.

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                                • wehateporn
                                  Promoting Debate on GFY
                                  • Apr 2007
                                  • 27176

                                  #17
                                  That bloke who's making a fortune out of the global warming hoax http://www.examiner.com/washington-c...ersonal-profit

                                  He then buys himself a coastal mansion which if we believe Gore will soon be swallowed up by melted ice caps http://www.heartland.org/full/27565/...t_Mansion.html

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                                  • Vendzilla
                                    Biker Gnome
                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 23200

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Bill8
                                    The capacity to admit a mistake is one of the signs of maturity and responsibility. Let's see if any republicans admit their mistakes in the future, because as far as I can remember, they sure havn't admitted mistakes as of yet. Much like guilty children.

                                    If anyone can point out examples of republicans admitting mistakes, please do.

                                    Corn ethanol was a mistake, as are most ethanols until we get desperate for liquid fuels, which we will before most of us here die. All of the scientists looking at the EROI said it was a mistake, but when gas was over $4 a gallon the people started agitating for solutions, especially american solutions, and corn ethanol was the only thing on the shelf.

                                    There simply is no good liquid fuel substiture with anything like the EROI of petroleum. We will only use the alternative liquid fuels when we are forced to, and when that time comes only the military will be able to afford the power and conveinience of petroleum and fossil carbon fuels. The government and the wealthy will have to make do with the inherent deficiencies of alcohols and plant oils.
                                    Actually both GW and Reagan both admitted mistakes, maybe you should read more.
                                    As far as gas prices and corn juice, maybe if we drilled the oil reserves we have, we could stop funding terrorism?
                                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                    think about that

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                                    • Sly
                                      Let's do some business!
                                      • Sep 2004
                                      • 31378

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Bill8
                                      The capacity to admit a mistake is one of the signs of maturity and responsibility. Let's see if any republicans admit their mistakes in the future, because as far as I can remember, they sure havn't admitted mistakes as of yet. Much like guilty children.

                                      If anyone can point out examples of republicans admitting mistakes, please do.

                                      Corn ethanol was a mistake, as are most ethanols until we get desperate for liquid fuels, which we will before most of us here die. All of the scientists looking at the EROI said it was a mistake, but when gas was over $4 a gallon the people started agitating for solutions, especially american solutions, and corn ethanol was the only thing on the shelf.

                                      There simply is no good liquid fuel substiture with anything like the EROI of petroleum. We will only use the alternative liquid fuels when we are forced to, and when that time comes only the military will be able to afford the power and conveinience of petroleum and fossil carbon fuels. The government and the wealthy will have to make do with the inherent deficiencies of alcohols and plant oils.
                                      The former vice president of the United States admits that he is capable of outright lying in order to gain favor to his cause of the week and you turn it into a story about evil Republicans?
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                                      • Bill8
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                                        • Oct 2001
                                        • 1901

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                        Actually both GW and Reagan both admitted mistakes, maybe you should read more.
                                        As far as gas prices and corn juice, maybe if we drilled the oil reserves we have, we could stop funding terrorism?
                                        What mistakes did they admit?

                                        I'm too busy reading science sources to spend a lot of time reading politicians. I did acknowledge I might not know, and asked for examples.

                                        I know it's pointless to explain to you why your comment about "drilling the oil reserves we have" misunderstands the amount of oil reserves on american territory, but I have no objection to your side allowing the oil mulinationals to drill anywhere they want.

                                        It means we will have no emergency reserve of american oil when the inevitable war with asia occurs, but american insecurity is irrelevant compared to your right to drive.

                                        However, if you research the numbers on american oil reserves, you will discover why drill baby drill wont help.

                                        Here's a place to start. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves Note the number of reserves attributed to the united states, and compare that to the amount of oil used per year by the united states.

                                        But, as far as I'm concerned, as I said, you can have the multinats drill baby drill. The laws for extraction are very lenient right now, and there are relatively few restrictions on the oil companies, which you will discover if you research the issue.

                                        Drill away.

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                                        • Bill8
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2001
                                          • 1901

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Sly
                                          The former vice president of the United States admits that he is capable of outright lying in order to gain favor to his cause of the week and you turn it into a story about evil Republicans?
                                          you mean like bush and his wars? How many americans died for bush's lies, to make bush's oil company buddies, and cheney's oil and munitions buddies, richer? How many trillions will taxpayers have drained from them, to accomplish nothing, because of your politician's lies?

                                          you have a profoundly warped sense of values. your tribalism does not interest me.

                                          the science of liquid fuels however does interest me. Corn ethanol was clearly a mistake.

                                          however, when the price of gas goes up again, the people once again will clamor for ethanol, despite the fact that it's not economically sound in the long run.

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                                          • Bill8
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Oct 2001
                                            • 1901

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Sly
                                            The former vice president of the United States admits that he is capable of outright lying in order to gain favor to his cause of the week and you turn it into a story about evil Republicans?
                                            actually, I should add, since I don't usually read politicians and didn't read the article, I didn't know that he "admitted lying".

                                            what where his lies, specifically? that might actually be of some interest.

                                            people who study liquid fuels said all along that corn ethanol had too low an EROI to be worth doing except as an emergency fuel, so when I saw snippets of gore saying corn ethanol was a mistake, my reaction was "well duh - at an EROI of 1-to-1 to 1.85-to-1, of course it was a mistake".

                                            so, be specific, and provide source quotes - what were his lies please?

                                            I'd support prosecuting him if he lied for personal benefit, exactly as I support prosecuting other politicians who did or do the same.

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                                            • Vendzilla
                                              Biker Gnome
                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 23200

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Bill8
                                              What mistakes did they admit?

                                              I'm too busy reading science sources to spend a lot of time reading politicians. I did acknowledge I might not know, and asked for examples.

                                              I know it's pointless to explain to you why your comment about "drilling the oil reserves we have" misunderstands the amount of oil reserves on american territory, but I have no objection to your side allowing the oil mulinationals to drill anywhere they want.

                                              It means we will have no emergency reserve of american oil when the inevitable war with asia occurs, but american insecurity is irrelevant compared to your right to drive.

                                              However, if you research the numbers on american oil reserves, you will discover why drill baby drill wont help.

                                              Here's a place to start. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves Note the number of reserves attributed to the united states, and compare that to the amount of oil used per year by the united states.

                                              But, as far as I'm concerned, as I said, you can have the multinats drill baby drill. The laws for extraction are very lenient right now, and there are relatively few restrictions on the oil companies, which you will discover if you research the issue.

                                              Drill away.
                                              My side?

                                              anyways we have more oil than you think
                                              http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/...news2.13s.html
                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                              think about that

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