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  • seeric
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    • Aug 2004
    • 41917

    #1

    Who do you feel caused the most damage to this industry?

    There are many angles and platforms for damage that I guess you could argue, but singlehandedly who do you feel has done the most damage to online adult since it started?
  • StickyGreen
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    • Oct 2003
    • 13076

    #2
    All the easily-accessible free content out there now of course...
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    • fusionx
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      • Nov 2003
      • 4618

      #3
      George W. Bush

      or Jesus.

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      • JFK
        FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
        • Jan 2002
        • 67369

        #4
        First there were all the ripoffs and over billing , then all the spam

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        • Aneros Josh
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          • Aug 2005
          • 2038

          #5
          Originally posted by fusionx
          George W. Bush

          or Jesus.
          Amen...no pun intended

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          • The Walrus
            So Fucking Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 898

            #6
            Dean Capture

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            • Art Del Gado
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2003
              • 960

              #7
              Originally posted by fusionx
              George W. Bush

              or Jesus.
              i like to blame bush for everything
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              • seeric
                ..........
                • Aug 2004
                • 41917

                #8
                how about companies who steal producers content and get away with it and still live and work in the industry like nothing happened?

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                • Karupted Charles
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 1662

                  #9
                  Ibill DMR or any of the shady companies that they let do shady billing that took them down.
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                  • jimthefiend
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 18889

                    #10
                    Lawrence Conner.

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                    • StickyGreen
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                      • Oct 2003
                      • 13076

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jimthefiend
                      Lawrence Conner.
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                      • Jman
                        Already an AI veteran
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 22833

                        #12
                        LOLOL there's a few names I could post but sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut.
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                        • blackfeet
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                          • Jun 2003
                          • 589

                          #13
                          republicans

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                          • The Walrus
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 898

                            #14
                            Adult Friend Finder, Cams.com, Sexsearch and Kanye West

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                            • fuzebox
                              making it rain
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 22363

                              #15
                              IMO anyone who was offering free trials with two prechecked xsells, hitting the surfer for $100+ in charges within 2 days of signing up. None of those people will ever use a CC online again.

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                              • stickyfingerz
                                Doin fine
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 24984

                                #16
                                Originally posted by fuzebox
                                IMO anyone who was offering free trials with two prechecked xsells, hitting the surfer for $100+ in charges within 2 days of signing up. None of those people will ever use a CC online again.


                                Few of the people responsible for all that mess post here too... That gets my vote also. People that were out for a quick buck that lost consumer confidence

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                                • cwd
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2006
                                  • 1955

                                  #17
                                  morality :P

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                                  • LiveDose
                                    Show Yer Tits!
                                    • Feb 2002
                                    • 25792

                                    #18
                                    People using sloppy methods to target traffic. For example children's site typo domains. Ridiculous.

                                    We are our own worst enemy. It's pathetic.

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                                    • chris01282
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2005
                                      • 370

                                      #19
                                      pedo's and spam...

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                                      • tony299
                                        lurker
                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 57021

                                        #20
                                        quick buck artists who didnt care who they hurt, acting with no responsibility just to make a buck. Most of our problems can go back to them

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                                        • Wizzo
                                          2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                                          • Nov 2000
                                          • 15224

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by JMan
                                          LOLOL there's a few names I could post but sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut.
                                          Exactly...
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                                          • StuartD
                                            Sofa King Band
                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 29903

                                            #22
                                            DMR - a lot of today's crap can be traced back through the past to the examples they set.
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                                            • aico
                                              Moo Moo Cow
                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 14748

                                              #23
                                              Free Hosted Galleries

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                                              • JD
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Sep 2003
                                                • 22651

                                                #24
                                                programmers.

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                                                • Jimmy Rock
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                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                  • 3055

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by aico
                                                  Free Hosted Galleries
                                                  Very true... way too much free content out there
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                                                  • Persignup Qon
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                                                    • Jun 2005
                                                    • 853

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                                    quick buck artists who didnt care who they hurt, acting with no responsibility just to make a buck. Most of our problems can go back to them
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                                                    • Matt 26z
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                      • 18481

                                                      #27
                                                      A lot of good answers so far, but I'm going with TGP owners as a group. The industry didn't agree one day to flood the internet with galleries containing 15-20 hardcore pics. TGP's got control of the traffic and then strongarmed webmasters into creating "quality" galleries. Now surfers have an unlimited supply of free porn.

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                                                      • Star 69
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                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                        • 8602

                                                        #28
                                                        Dirty Franck
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                                                        • Xenophage
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 12122

                                                          #29
                                                          All the guys who raped the customers and billed them multiple times and sucked $100 million plus outta the biz and fucked the surfer so hard they would never pull their credit cards out again. I know one guy who billed 10 million worth of fake charges and then just up and walked the country, the merchant bank closed all the other accounts based on this one guys actions.

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                                                          • Xenophage
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                            • 12122

                                                            #30
                                                            There is a company today that still says free signup and then bangs your card for $6.95 a month. Tons of people promote it. Bottom line people promote what pays the most, and the majority dont care what happens in order to get it.

                                                            Also Agree with the DMR and IBILL issue those 2 companies really fucked shit up bad.

                                                            Many of the newer people here were not around back then and have no idea how totally off the hook the biz was 5 to 10 years ago.

                                                            They dont know where we were so they have no reference to what things are today.
                                                            Last edited by Xenophage; 05-04-2007, 01:33 PM.

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                                                            • carol.prime
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                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                              • 6960

                                                              #31
                                                              selfish people...
                                                              they do not have any concern...in the end all of us will suffer..
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                                                              • scottybuzz
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • May 2006
                                                                • 14799

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                                There is a company today that still says free signup and then bangs your card for $6.95 a month. Tons of people promote it. Bottom line people promote what pays the most, and the majority dont care what happens in order to get it.

                                                                Also Agree with the DMR and IBILL issue those 2 companies really fucked shit up bad.

                                                                Many of the newer people here were not around back then and have no idea how totally off the hook the biz was 5 to 10 years ago.

                                                                They dont know where we were so they have no reference to what things are today.
                                                                interesting, name names lars!
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                                                                • aico
                                                                  Moo Moo Cow
                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                  • 14748

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                                  I know one guy who billed 10 million worth of fake charges and then just up and walked the country, the merchant bank closed all the other accounts based on this one guys actions.
                                                                  Seth? or more recent?

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                                                                  • Xenophage
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                    • 12122

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by aico
                                                                    Seth? or more recent?
                                                                    You have been around a while ;)

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                                                                    • aico
                                                                      Moo Moo Cow
                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                      • 14748

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                                      You have been around a while ;)
                                                                      So you're saying I am not a smart man?

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                                                                      • Xenophage
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                        • 12122

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by aico
                                                                        So you're saying I am not a smart man?

                                                                        ehheheheh Just choosing my words carefully

                                                                        You are a smart man

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                                                                        • OzMan
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                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                          • 9162

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                                          There is a company today that still says free signup and then bangs your card for $6.95 a month. Tons of people promote it. Bottom line people promote what pays the most, and the majority dont care what happens in order to get it...
                                                                          But they'll refund it if you complain so it's all good.

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                                                                          • GatorB
                                                                            The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                                            • 18208

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                                            A lot of good answers so far, but I'm going with TGP owners as a group. The industry didn't agree one day to flood the internet with galleries containing 15-20 hardcore pics. TGP's got control of the traffic and then strongarmed webmasters into creating "quality" galleries. Now surfers have an unlimited supply of free porn.
                                                                            Yep kind of counterintuitive. Used to be you could use crappy sponsor content with a free host a bunch of banners maybe a pop-up or 2. Now they want fresh high quality content with as little advertising as possible. Excuse me but the whole point of someone of submitting a gallery is to SELL something not to provide surfers with free jack-off material. Galleries should have overused crap content. Free porn sites should be full of advertising and pop-ups. Surfing for free porn should be made as miserable experience as possible. That way the surfer is MOTIVATED to PAY for the HQ fresh content without the pop-ups and ads.

                                                                            What gets me even more is that these TGPs now expect submitters to pay for this privilege. Considering how crappy TGP traffic is it should be the other way around.

                                                                            It'd be like if Baskins Robbins version of a free sample was a regular single scoop cone then they ask me if I was willing to pay for a double scoop. I'd say "Um no thanks I'll just keep coming back for my free cone everyday because that's really all I need." Then they sit there wondering why they aren't making hardly any sales.

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                                                                            • The Walrus
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Mar 2007
                                                                              • 898

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                                              interesting, name names lars!
                                                                              Webpower Inc. aka iFriends.

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                                                                              • the Shemp
                                                                                congrats to the winners
                                                                                • Nov 2001
                                                                                • 10891

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                Yep kind of counterintuitive. Used to be you could use crappy sponsor content with a free host a bunch of banners maybe a pop-up or 2. Now they want fresh high quality content with as little advertising as possible. Excuse me but the whole point of someone of submitting a gallery is to SELL something not to provide surfers with free jack-off material. Galleries should have overused crap content. Free porn sites should be full of advertising and pop-ups. Surfing for free porn should be made as miserable experience as possible. That way the surfer is MOTIVATED to PAY for the HQ fresh content without the pop-ups and ads.

                                                                                What gets me even more is that these TGPs now expect submitters to pay for this privilege. Considering how crappy TGP traffic is it should be the other way around.

                                                                                It'd be like if Baskins Robbins version of a free sample was a regular single scoop cone then they ask me if I was willing to pay for a double scoop. I'd say "Um no thanks I'll just keep coming back for my free cone everyday because that's really all I need." Then they sit there wondering why they aren't making hardly any sales.
                                                                                90+% of all gallery content is provided free by the sponsors to any goof that claims to be a webmaster...
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                                                                                • Murderous
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                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                  • 3938

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Lensman for creating this damned forum... how does anyone get anything done?

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                                                                                  • GatorB
                                                                                    The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                    • 18208

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                                                    90+% of all gallery content is provided free by the sponsors to any goof that claims to be a webmaster...
                                                                                    I can 100% guarantee you that galllery submitters are NOT submitting FHG to TGPs. Show a TGP that accepts FHG and I'll show you an idiot.

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                                                                                    • AaronM
                                                                                      GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                      • 46917

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      LOL....Nobody is naming the name.

                                                                                      A few of you are on the right track but seems that people are too afraid to actually type his name.

                                                                                      Mot sure why but if Lars is keeping his mouth shut then I guess I should too.

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                                                                                      • the Shemp
                                                                                        congrats to the winners
                                                                                        • Nov 2001
                                                                                        • 10891

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                        I can 100% guarantee you that galllery submitters are NOT submitting FHG to TGPs. Show a TGP that accepts FHG and I'll show you an idiot.
                                                                                        where did i mention FHGs?
                                                                                        im talking about the content on the galleries...
                                                                                        it's from the sponsors and available in great quantities..
                                                                                        i use Vacares...so should you
                                                                                        Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                                                                                        • AaronM
                                                                                          GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                          • 46917

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                          I can 100% guarantee you that galllery submitters are NOT submitting FHG to TGPs. Show a TGP that accepts FHG and I'll show you an idiot.


                                                                                          Where did Shemp say anything about FHG's?

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                                                                                          • AaronM
                                                                                            GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                                                            • 46917

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                                                            where did i mention FHGs?
                                                                                            im talking about the content on the galleries...
                                                                                            it's from the sponsors and available in great quantities..


                                                                                            I rest my case.

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                                                                                            • pornguy
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                              • 62910

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I would have to say the CC rips offs by the companies..
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                                                                                              • scottybuzz
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • May 2006
                                                                                                • 14799

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by The Walrus
                                                                                                Webpower Inc. aka iFriends.
                                                                                                oh shit... i signed up to them a while back to check out the insides of it i hope i cancelled properly!
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                                                                                                • D-Money
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                  • 9716

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  newbie employees of big programs.
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                                                                                                  • GatorB
                                                                                                    The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                                    • 18208

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                                                                    where did i mention FHGs?
                                                                                                    im talking about the content on the galleries...
                                                                                                    it's from the sponsors and available in great quantities..
                                                                                                    Well I haven't been in the TGP thng in awhile. I do know for a fact about 5 years ago most of you guys stopped accepting galleries with sponsor content or so your rules stated. Almost every tgp had a rule "No Sponsor Content. Our surfers want FRESH content" So now you've changed that?

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