The cuter the animal the better it tastes. Bunnies are awesome.
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Lie.
Youve talked to me about your migraines before, including the fact you beg your doctor to 'try new medication" because nothing seems to work for you.
Considering, I too have basically intractable migraines, ive tried everything, and one thing that has helped is changing my diet to a non-meat-based diet. Of course you eat meat, and you wonder why you cant control your migraines? Youve said youve tried all the pills possible. No doubt.
Not only do you have health problems, youve told me that your medication and doctor cannot fix the problem.
Its no secret meat products have been proven to causes/trigger migraines, no offense but you really dont know what you're talking about.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ne&btnG=Search
Go ask your doctor for more pills, and keep eating meat.
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EVERY female on my mother's side of the family has migraines and has since puberty - including the vegetarian.....
I'm pretty sure I've covered that already including that fact that Imitrex works fine.
Good try though. Next?
BTW, all my grandparents/great grandparents/etc. have lived healthy lives and lived to be in their upper 80's and 90's. Eating meat. Good genetics
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humans are supposed to eat meat our digestive system is made primarely for just that.....to live on veggies only we would have 3 stomachs and 100 times the length of intestines that we have now.
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We spend quite a lot of time describing to my sister what the poor veal through to give us such a tasty meal
She asked me once why I thought I was smarter than the lobster I was getting ready to eat. I pointed out that I may not be smarter, but it was dead and I was eating it - food chain power rules!!
Cherry, you can eat whatever your little heart desires. If you want a nice tasty pug, bon appetite! Personally I'm having some nice Bambi for dinner tonight.Comment
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Just wanted to point out your lie regarding your health. Not only do you have health problems, youre constantly on medication.
but anyway... as ive said, i learned long ago never argue about one's diet. I was just pointing out the facts. Meat causes migraines, you can deny it all you want.
You live on medication, far from the "zero health problems" lie you told in defense of meat.
toodles, i care not to argue, just point out lies when i see them.
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LOL, dude, all you DO is argue - you've made an entire posting career out of it!Just wanted to point out your lie regarding your health. Not only do you have health problems, youre constantly on medication.
but anyway... as ive said, i learned long ago never argue about one's diet. I was just pointing out the facts. Meat causes migraines, you can deny it all you want.
You live on medication, far from the "zero health problems" lie you told in defense of meat.
toodles, i care not to argue, just point out lies when i see them.
I'm sure a logical person can easily see that my migraines aren't related to red meat when my vegetarian sister (no seafood for her either) has migraines too. Another vegetarian friend of mine is diabetic - I guess that has nothing to do with the rest of her family have diabetes problems, it's because she's a vegetarian.....
Tomorrow I'm going here. Pork rules too
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I was nursed on soy formula because I am lactose intolerant and it showed up very early on. I turned out nearly okay...but then my mom was smart enough to get the formula over the milk.These people don't strike me as the sharpest pencils in the box.....even if the mother thought her vegan milk wasn't sufficient for the baby, SURELY she realized that it was better than soy milk?
Not to mention you can buy soy baby formula that has the necessary nutrients the baby needed and the plain soy milk lacked.
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Hey!
anyway...I don't think people are saying they are especially dumb for not eating meat...they are AMAZINGLY dumb for not giving their baby the proper nutrition it needed to live and they are criminal for not having it checked out so that a doctor to could slap sense into them.Comment
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And of course, I'd make sure the pugs were treated to the same conditions cows are.
Give them a little shock to the head, hang them up by their back legs and slit their throat, let them bleed a little. Then comes the skinning, if they are not dead there is no time to slow down the line. By the time their feet and head are cut off they can't feel anyways.
Sorry, animals are my friends. But I'd eat a human before I'd eat a dog, for the record. Well, maybe not if they ate fast food.
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Yeah, it says right on the soy milk (the stuff I drink anyhow) "Not to be used as infant formula."Comment
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again the vegans ignore any comment on the human digestive system.
Meat doesn't cause migraine it's the stuff they add to the meat or the stuff
they use to feed bio industry animals with that causes that.
Yes there's a lot of meat that is bad for your health just like there's many
veggies that are bad for your health the way the were produced.
I love meat and I'll keep eating it till the day I die.....I don't eat meat that
comes from the bio-industry I eat meat from farms where animals walked
freely on large pieces of land and ate whatever they chose to eat themselfes
which in most cases is just fresh gras and clean water.
I don't have migraines, meds, disseases, dissorders or anything else that
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Uh, I'm banned from one board and that was for telling the truth, not lying
Your logic about red meat and migraines when one family member has them and doesn't eat red meat is confusing. Perhaps you could explain it to me?
I guess this would be a bad time to bring up that both my red meat eating aunt and red meat eating mother stopped having migraines when they went through menopause.
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Im not explaining anything, you said you have "ZERO HEALTH PROBLEMS", i called you on it.
Simple as that, proving you lie, nothing else.
You want to focus on everything except that fact.
Liar. you said 'zero health problems"
Thats a lie. Migraines are different for every person, you obviously do not know much about them, perhaps you are lying about having them? You live on medication, how can you have zero health problems?

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Factory farming is fucked but your idea that if we eat animals we should eat humans is just beyond stupid. Do you see lions eat other lions? Do you see bears eat other bears? Nope. They'll attack and kill but they won't eat it.I quit eating meat and my anemia went away. The way the meat industry is ran, fuck eating that dirty flesh. They feed cows chicken shit and other cows, and cows are vegetarians. Its disgusting. I get more nutrients and vitamins eating different vegetables and fruit.
Those people were not educated about how to care for a baby. They should have given him breast milk which is what nature intends if you want to go there.
How many meat eaters feed their babies that shitty formula anyhow, no doubt thousands and thousands. Its not natural either, should they be punished?
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I would eat human too without a problem if it was well prepared. I think
charcoal broiled black from the outside and red/blue from the inside....
water is running in my mouth already
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Huh? Vegans do not consume or use and animal products. They are known as strict vegetarians.Something very fishy about this story.
Vegetarians DO drink milk. Vegetarians dont eat meat (and some dont eat fish). Its vegans that drink drink milk from a cow and wear leathershoes. Now a person without brains like KlenTelaris for example might not be aware of this, but people who have been either vegetarian of vegan for many years know the difference. Misquote or underlying motives?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegan
The definition of a vegetarian varies, as does the diet of those that call themselves vegetarian. Some people calling themselves vegetarians allow themselves fish, milk and eggs and use leather products. These tend to be those that see it as a healthy lifestyle rather than someone that is doing it for more philosophical reasons such as not harming animals etc. in which case they usually eat more vegan style.Comment
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I was more joking than serious. Because who in their right mind (vegan, vegetarian, meatosaurus or anyone) would think their own mothers milk was not suitable for their own child? I mean my god.. what was going through her mind?
If she's been a vegan and believes her diet is superior, then surely she'd think her milk would be excellent for her baby!??
But evidently as a vegan, she believed that NO milk from any animal was good for the baby.. So instead of calling them crazy, I just decided to wonder out loud if maybe some maternal instinct told her NO, dont breastfeed this child..
very strange regardless..43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.
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LOL! You really had to reach for that oneIm not explaining anything, you said you have "ZERO HEALTH PROBLEMS", i called you on it.
Simple as that, proving you lie, nothing else.
You want to focus on everything except that fact.
Liar. you said 'zero health problems"
Thats a lie. Migraines are different for every person, you obviously do not know much about them, perhaps you are lying about having them? You live on medication, how can you have zero health problems?
I told someone today I'd put a package in the mail for them today and it's not going out until tomorrow - there - another lie that caused my migraines.
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Yep, there all levels. My sister doesn't eat seafood or eggs, but except for her year of being a vegan, eats milk products.Huh? Vegans do not consume or use and animal products. They are known as strict vegetarians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegan
The definition of a vegetarian varies, as does the diet of those that call themselves vegetarian. Some people calling themselves vegetarians allow themselves fish, milk and eggs and use leather products. These tend to be those that see it as a healthy lifestyle rather than someone that is doing it for more philosophical reasons such as not harming animals etc. in which case they usually eat more vegan style.
Another vegetarian friend of mine eats eggs and seafood - just no beef, chicken or pork.
I'm not a picky eater - had some bear tenderloin a few weeks ago and a TEENY TINY ITTY BITTY TASTE of blood sausage last week - THAT didn't taste so good.....Comment
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If they were hungry enough they would. Otherwise they are just wasting the meat.
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I'm not talking about Africa and I'm not talking about Africans. I'm talking about regular black folk in America where usually your family, extended family, play-cousins, next door neighbor, old lady across the hall, etc etc is usually all up in your business on a regular basis and even more so when you bring a new baby home. It's just surprising that no one else noticed some shit was not right. Trust that if I brought home a baby and wasn't feeding it right and it was malnourished that shit would get nipped in the bud with the quickness.
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people can say anything they want about vegetarian diets but a simple fact is that the human body was clearly designed to eat meat... whether its talking about your teeth and their design or the enzymes that your body produces specifically to break down animal proteins, to your body's daily protein needs and the fact that there is no fucking way in hell that humans were intended to get its daily requirements from plant proteins - not to mention the fact that they are by FAR the most inneficient when it comes to protein synthesis in your body and that you would have to eat a wide variety of the right plant protiens, in the right quantities, all at the same time, for all essential amino acids to be present for protein sythesis to occur.
being a strict vegetarian for most people is just as unhealthy as any other diet choice. thats why strict vegetarians often tend to look like absolute shit.Comment
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Wow, my ex-husband will find that interesting
No need to get married in this day and age unless you plan on having kids, IMO. If I wanted to be married, I would be - last time I checked we were all free to marry or not in this country.
Are you saying you AREN'T Cherry's buddy? That's a little sad
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I feel sick after reading that story.
I do have a question for the vegetarians in the thread though.
Without eating meat/fish, where do you get adequate protein from? I work out regularly to stay healthy and I know if I lower my protein consumption, I start to put on fat and lose muscle, energy, strength, endurance and I am sure there are a lot of other things... all from dropping my protein consumption from between 200-250g (of protein, multiple sources) per day down to 100g per day...
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seriously incorrect.
regarding teeth:
# Meat-eaters: have sharp front teeth for tearing, with no flat molar teeth for grinding
# Herbivores: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding
# Humans: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding
can you show any references for the things you say?
regarding digestive system:
# Meat-eaters: have intestinal tract that is only 3 times their body length so that rapidly decaying meat can pass through quickly
# Herbivores: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.
# Humans: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.
# Meat-eaters: have strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat
# Herbivores: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater
# Humans: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater
you are inoccrct about the enzymes in saliva as well:
* Meat-eaters: salivary glands in mouth not needed to pre-digest grains and fruits.
* Herbivores: well-developed salivary glands which are necessary to pre-digest grains and fruits
* Humans: well-developed salivary glands, which are necessary to pre-digest, grains and fruits
* Meat-eaters: have acid saliva with no enzyme ptyalin to pre-digest grains
* Herbivores: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains
* Humans: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains
http://www.katinkahesselink.net/heal...nt_to_eat_meat
The human digestive system is not designed for meat eating, nor are our teeth.
Can you prove otherwise with a reference or do you just make it up?
Please provide some links to back up your claims or admit you are wrong.
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how horrible.
i tried to watch the video but it wasn't loading for me. maybe that's a good thing.
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More proving digestive system is not designed for meat:
In conclusion, we see that human beings have the gastrointestinal tract structure of a "committed" herbivore. Humankind does not show the mixed structural features one expects and finds in anatomical omnivores such as bears and raccoons. Thus, from comparing the gastrointestinal tract of humans to that of carnivores, herbivores and omnivores we must conclude that humankind's GI tract is designed for a purely plant-food diet.
http://www.newveg.av.org/anatomy.htm
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There are many vegetarian bodybuilders out there, just as there are many alternative protein sources other than meat. Don't kid yourself.Without eating meat/fish, where do you get adequate protein from? I work out regularly to stay healthy and I know if I lower my protein consumption, I start to put on fat and lose muscle, energy, strength, endurance and I am sure there are a lot of other things... all from dropping my protein consumption from between 200-250g (of protein, multiple sources) per day down to 100g per day...
You can't get decent protein without consuming meat or meat related products (majority of protein powders come from milk... there's soy and egg proteins as well...).i buy massive xxx dating traffic.Comment
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im out guys, have to leave and wont have time to respond or be back to this thread.
I would love to stay, but i have other obligations I must meet.
thanks, and hopefully we all live long and prosper regardless of what we eat.
BTW donate to safe access so people can get off drugs like Imitrex and use medical marijuana.
http://www.safeaccessnow.org/
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haha, are you serious?? Humans are made for eating meat.uh oh spaghettios, yes veganism bad.
Meat = good.

you cant argue with people over their diet. meat eaters want their kids nice and plump, no doubt this is also why they want free universal health care.
Look at the obesity rates among children, of course vegetarianism is BAD!!!
one thing i learned, you cant argue about food, health, or diet with people who cant control their eating. People who cannot stop eating meat, sugar, etc have no control over their mouth let alone their brain to think rational about this heated topic.
I say let the meat eaters poison their kids, just do not reward them with free health care.
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kid? please, was a serious question. Depending on the vegetarian, you don't eat eggs... that's a huge source of protein gone... so you have soy left.
Other then that...what? cottage cheese? it's meat related. milk? meat related...
I am pretty sure that a vegan is not going to be a bodybuilder.
All the vegetarian bodybuilders I know eat a ton of meat related products, including milk, cheese, protein powders and eggs... some call themselves vegetarian but also eat fish.
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Oh lookie - info found on the interweb - where we know everything is 100% true:
http://www.beyondveg.com/billings-t/...-anat-6a.shtml
Some vegetarians are worse than born again Christians. So you don't want to eat meat. Good for you. I, OTOH, like to eat meat. So I will. One of my very good friends is a vegetarian. She regularly goes to the Brazillan steakhouses with me and others. She eats from the salad bar. She's happy, we're happy. We also will go out of our way to find places where she can get a good meal. She doesn't preach that we shouldn't eat meat, we don't preach that she should.
It's really not that difficult - it's called having "socialization skills". Try it sometime.
BTW, I'm sending 4 pugs to Cherry and Fletch for their kabobs. I assume Cherry will also be eating some human since it's legal. You kids enjoy!!
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Squirrels are cute AND tasty.
If it's slower than me or dumber than me, I'm eating it.
I don't get why vegetarians are so gung ho about the shit. Eat meat or don't. You don't see meat-eaters trying to force people to eat meat or getting all grossed out and refusing to sit with vegetarians when they order their tofurkey.Comment
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Yes almost anything listed here is incorrect. Humans belong to omnivoresseriously incorrect.
regarding teeth:
# Meat-eaters: have sharp front teeth for tearing, with no flat molar teeth for grinding
# Herbivores: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding
# Humans: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding
can you show any references for the things you say?
regarding digestive system:
# Meat-eaters: have intestinal tract that is only 3 times their body length so that rapidly decaying meat can pass through quickly
# Herbivores: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.
# Humans: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.
# Meat-eaters: have strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat
# Herbivores: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater
# Humans: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater
you are inoccrct about the enzymes in saliva as well:
* Meat-eaters: salivary glands in mouth not needed to pre-digest grains and fruits.
* Herbivores: well-developed salivary glands which are necessary to pre-digest grains and fruits
* Humans: well-developed salivary glands, which are necessary to pre-digest, grains and fruits
* Meat-eaters: have acid saliva with no enzyme ptyalin to pre-digest grains
* Herbivores: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains
* Humans: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains
http://www.katinkahesselink.net/heal...nt_to_eat_meat
The human digestive system is not designed for meat eating, nor are our teeth.
Can you prove otherwise with a reference or do you just make it up?
Please provide some links to back up your claims or admit you are wrong.
we can both but our intestinal tract isn't designed for primarily eating
vegatables. Plant eaters have 3 stomachs and a MUCH longer intestinal tract
than humans.
The so called facts on that page aren't facts at all....it's a bunch of half
trues which make up a conviencing list that would indicate being vegetarian
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