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  • DWB
    Registered User
    • Jul 2003
    • 31779

    #31
    Originally posted by DamianJ
    a) Where did I claim Paul has not been in this business longer than you and me combined?
    b) Where did I say anything about what I thought of his content?
    c) Where did I say he wasn't able to make a living out of it?

    Thanks for playing, pick up your party bag at the door.
    After the video I just saw and finding out you're from Brighton, I just realized we're not even playing the same game. I will be expecting you to bring my car around after I pick up my party bag. Please try not to scratch it.


    Originally posted by Paul Markham
    Ignore him. Look up his Whois and then check the address on Google Maps.

    For the interior. http://vimeo.com/8079940 very plush. Obviously a man at the top of his profession.

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    • bjlover
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2006
      • 514

      #32
      just what GFY needs, someone who after 30 years in porn and who is still broke, starting a another thread about tubes
      Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102

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      • stocktrader23
        Let's do some business.
        • Jan 2003
        • 18781

        #33
        Originally posted by Paul Markham
        Ignore him. Look up his Whois and then check the address on Google Maps.

        For the interior. http://vimeo.com/8079940 very plush. Obviously a man at the top of his profession.




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        • Paul Markham
          Too old to care
          • Jun 2001
          • 52942

          #34
          Originally posted by DJ The Kid
          Awesome post, and advice Paul!
          Thank you, just trying to throw out some ideas to stop the decline. Nice to see so many with better ideas. That was sarcasm to the trolls.

          Originally posted by KillerK
          The problem is

          Why should I pay for premium content only to have the tubes steal it from me. It's not like they ruin the quality of it by posting it, I help their tube sites get better.
          Because if you don't have great content why should anyone buy a membership or renew one?

          Yes you have to do what Robbie does and lock it down. Once you have great content locking it down is worthwhile. But there were other ideas for making a members area more appealing to members in my first post. Things Tubes can't steal so easily.

          Here's another reason to produce premium content. And pay for the extra effort apart from sign ups.

          DVD sales. There is still a DVD industry. Not flourishing but still there and still buying. If your content is good enough and the price right they will buy. They don't, to my knowledge, pirate content for DVDs. So imagine getting an extra $1,000 to $5,000 for every scene you shoot. Yes if it's good enough they will pay $5,000.

          Magazine sales. The magazine industry is on it's last legs. But there's still a few companies who will pay $1,000 to $2,000 for a one off publishing right in the US. For solo girl or girl-girl. Add that to a possible sales in the UK, EU, Japan and second rights it makes up for a nice side line to fund content production.

          Cable sales. Yes cable still buy content. Get out and find who they are and sell to them.

          The only lines you have to cross is going out and selling it. Once you have a client you have them for as long as you produce the goods. We still sell to Trojan in the UK, they bought PRO a UK publisher best known magazines were Mayfair, Club and Men Only. Eva handles all that now. They've been clients for well over 20 years.

          And the most important line is quality. If the content isn't good enough you won't sell it. And why should someone buy a months membership for it?

          Also niche. They don't do anything with the micro niches. So if that's your bag then your out of luck. Sorry if that's true. But for many sites the possibilities are there. It always amazed me and Eva that so few Internet companies didn't sell content elsewhere. Money on the table ignored.



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          • Ron2k1
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2001
            • 1573

            #35
            Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
            Hire a warehouse full of Filipinos to upload VERY illegal content to the tubes over and over. That will land them in hot water soon enough. And by VERY illegal, I mean the worst. Every day. All day.
            That will not help, the major tube sites do not automatically approve uploaded content, so your ilegal files will never show up on the site. Most of the major tubes don't even list uploaded content anyway.


            You could also have that same group sending bogus DMCAs out day and night removing every video they can find. This would cripple almost all of the illegal tubes. Only those with traceable submissions and licensed content (that they keep track of) would remain.
            You could probably annoy tube owners by filling in endless DMCA requests, so that may help a little bit.

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            • DamianJ
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2006
              • 15808

              #36
              Originally posted by Paul Markham
              Ignore him. Look up his Whois and then check the address on Google Maps.
              How can he ignore me AND stalk me? At least think this stuff through, Markham.

              We all know you think it's way cool you have stalked me (through my public whois) and found out I live in a rented flat.

              You've posted it about 7 times now.

              I'm sorry it's so pathetically easy to make you look stupid. I'm sorry the ONLY thing you have on me is that I rent a flat so you keep using that to try and make me look bad.

              But renting a flat isn't anywhere near as bad as you saying it's a good job you aren't in charge of a group of 15-18 year old girls for fear of not being able to avoid temptation.

              Carry on posting I live in a rented flat. Post the address. Post the google maps pic.

              I, nor anyone else, cares.

              I will let you keep posting about how your think anyone that teaches underage girls must have iron wil power to avoid temptation. You do yourself far more harm than I ever could.

              At least you've done a Ratner your content isn't good enough so now no-one in their right mind will buy from you anyway.

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              • DamianJ
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jul 2006
                • 15808

                #37
                Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                After the video I just saw and finding out you're from Brighton, I just realized we're not even playing the same game. I will be expecting you to bring my car around after I pick up my party bag. Please try not to scratch it.
                Lol. So, I point out everything you say is wrong and your great come back is to attempt to dis where I live?

                Wow.

                You are teh AWESOME at this interwebs thing!!!

                Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111oneoneoen

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                • Nautilus
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 1631

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Ron2k1
                  You could probably annoy tube owners by filling in endless DMCA requests, so that may help a little bit.
                  Yes only a little bit. Most of them check where DMCA is coming from, and would react only if it is sent from a business e-mail address, and you can't fake a ton of those.

                  Some filehosters like rapidshare are known to delete anything upon first request no matter where the report is coming from - back in the day when rapidshare was THE hoster many uploaders used that to get rid of their competition for better link placements. But even rapidshare had (or has, I don't know) its limits - they won't remove 100K links upon DMCA sent from a gmail account.

                  But that's pretty uncommon - most of the rapidshare clones are having it on their DMCA page now that they'll process only those takedown requests sent from business e-mail addresses. Guess most tubes are like that too.
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                  • Paul Markham
                    Too old to care
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 52942

                    #39
                    I posted the truth about you. Your 40ish. Live in a rented flat that's in a converted house. That backs onto a railway. The interior looks like a shit hole. For all your arrogant and superior stances you're worth fuck all.

                    At 40 I was a 1/3 in on paying off a mortgage. On a place they had 4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms and big enough to shoot in. At 60 I'm retired and live off what I've made and what I've shot over the last 30 years. At 60 you'll be living off a State pension and the Government support. Good luck with that in the UK.

                    Assuming you keep employed until you're 60. Good luck finding a job when the Adult Internet implodes and turns it's back on you. 6 years in the porn business will look great on your CV.



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                    • Paul Markham
                      Too old to care
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 52942

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Nautilus
                      Yes only a little bit. Most of them check where DMCA is coming from, and would react only if it is sent from a business e-mail address, and you can't fake a ton of those.

                      Some filehosters like rapidshare are known to delete anything upon first request no matter where the report is coming from - back in the day when rapidshare was THE hoster many uploaders used that to get rid of their competition for better link placements. But even rapidshare had (or has, I don't know) its limits - they won't remove 100K links upon DMCA sent from a gmail account.

                      But that's pretty uncommon - most of the rapidshare clones are having it on their DMCA page now that they'll process only those takedown requests sent from business e-mail addresses. Guess most tubes are like that too.
                      Dead right.



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                      • Emil
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 5658

                        #41
                        Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                        Hire a warehouse full of Filipinos to upload VERY illegal content to the tubes over and over. That will land them in hot water soon enough. And by VERY illegal, I mean the worst. Every day. All day.

                        You could also have that same group sending bogus DMCAs out day and night removing every video they can find. This would cripple almost all of the illegal tubes. Only those with traceable submissions and licensed content (that they keep track of) would remain.

                        It is unethical of course to do such a thing, but if someone had the money and were so inclined, they could fight one unethical business model with another.

                        Just talking out of my ass of course. You can't beat them. But you could cause them a lot of pain if you really wanted to.
                        Wont work. They will just disable regular users from uploading files and just do it themselfs OR hire Filipinos to approve submitted videos.

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                        • ottopottomouse
                          She is ugly, bad luck.
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 13177

                          #42
                          Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                          ...Brighton...
                          I like Brighton
                          ↑ see post ↑
                          13101

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                          • DamianJ
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 15808

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                            I posted the truth about you.
                            Never claim to live in a mansion, never claim to be worth anything. I am a humble self employed little marketing person making a living. Not sure what the point is you are making?

                            Not everyone has the same goals in life as you. I don't WANT to live in a small village in an eastern bloc country with a bought wife. I am glad you do and am certain the stories in the UK about the real reasons you left the country are untrue. I certainly won't post them here, anyway.

                            You keep posting the same thing though Paul. Because you have nothing else to try and put me down. And I am REALLY sorry the ONE thing you have isn't anything that bothers me.

                            But at least you now admit your content is not worth buying.

                            We have progressed.

                            Now if only you can think of another way to try and insult me? Here are some things you could try:

                            a) I'm slightly camp, why not try calling me gay or a fag or something?

                            b) I have grey hair

                            c) I have a rubber face

                            d) I like Macintosh computers

                            e) I read The Guardian

                            f) I enjoy performing card magic

                            Go on, sure you can get something better than the fact I live in a rented flat out of all that lot!


                            xxx
                            Last edited by DamianJ; 11-12-2010, 02:42 AM.

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                            • Barefootsies
                              Choice is an Illusion
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 42635

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                              Ignore him. Look up his Whois and then check the address on Google Maps.

                              For the interior. http://vimeo.com/8079940 very plush. Obviously a man at the top of his profession.
                              Should You Email Your Members?

                              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                              Enough Said.

                              "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                              • DamianJ
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 15808

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                Yup. It's shocking, isn't it?!?!

                                I live in a rented apartment.

                                Wow-ee.

                                But at least I don't have to beg for money from strangers to buy glasses, like Markham does.
                                Last edited by DamianJ; 11-12-2010, 04:23 AM.

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