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  • bigXvids
    Registered User
    • May 2002
    • 46

    #1

    need a bitta advice

    Hey

    I run a movie site, http://www.bigxvids.com which gets around 40-50k of traffic

    The prob is though, that I keep having trouble turning the damn surfers into signups

    Was wondering if anyone could take a quick look at my site and maybe suggest a new advertising method or sponsor, coz I really am stuck atm

    Thanks
  • boneprone
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jan 2001
    • 34415

    #2
    Signups?

    Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
    Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
    http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
    Learn about it kids.

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    • Amputate Your Head
      There can be only one
      • Aug 2001
      • 39075

      #3
      looks good.... stick with what you got... hang in there...
      SIG TOO BIG

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      • OneBallJohn
        Confirmed User
        • May 2002
        • 262

        #4
        is this what is known as spam?

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        • boneprone
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jan 2001
          • 34415

          #5
          hes not really spaming anything though.
          Im tyring to figure out how he gets anysignups at all.

          Seems like a huge mish mash of misleading confusion

          Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
          Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
          http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
          Learn about it kids.

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          • boneprone
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2001
            • 34415

            #6
            i got a head ache. I cant do this anymore

            Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
            Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
            http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
            Learn about it kids.

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            • bigXvids
              Registered User
              • May 2002
              • 46

              #7
              i'm not spamming, only asking you boys (and girls) for advice

              just having a tough time making money off my site

              boneprone- what do ya find so confusing and what do u reckon i should do?

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              • boneprone
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jan 2001
                • 34415

                #8
                Make your sponsoros more visible.
                Use different programs.

                If you need some sponsors you can icq me, i know of some that would do well.

                Im not gunna spam em here, but if you are intrested you can inquire.

                icq 66883099

                Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                Learn about it kids.

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                • boneprone
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 34415

                  #9
                  where are your sponsors at?
                  What are you pushing?

                  Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                  Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                  http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                  Learn about it kids.

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                  • sinomatic
                    Registered User
                    • May 2002
                    • 149

                    #10
                    Dude check out www.fuckingfreemovies.com , same concept as yours but they get about 5x more traffic a day. Get some people to advertise on your site, I think they charge like $250 a week for a reg banner. I think that you should be making around 4k easy with just adds on your site. But that's just my

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                    • boneprone
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 34415

                      #11
                      your design and layout looks fine, but im thinking you need to push a sale harder somehow.

                      use movie type sites to promote.

                      I think platnium bucks has some site you could try that is designed to look like a total movie type site. THat may work.

                      Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                      Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                      http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                      Learn about it kids.

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                      • DrewKole
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2001
                        • 5193

                        #12
                        What boneprone said... right now, you're using the low-end CJ TGP technique, tons of perm blind links, all you're doin right now is tradin traffic around, and using a FNP site?

                        What I'd do? Put a SMALLER toplist than the one in the middle, at the top, with your 15-20 best trades.

                        Dont put as many as ya have, it'll just reduce your bookmarkers.

                        Swap out the right blind links, for some banners, maybe some juicy movie text or even free samples, and a big ol' vertical ad there... make sure ya have some text along with it if you use a banner.

                        Just beware, you'll drop your traffic if you rely heavily on those thumbs, if you can monitor it, change the top few and see how it affects your trades.

                        Let us know how it goes, good looking site tho... and thanks for stoppin by. =)

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                        • Krome
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 2851

                          #13
                          Your site is popular because it is so hard to get to the part where you say to the surfer "listen fuck face get your credit card out"..shove a banner directly under your main title logo.. even better still make a warning page like this one:
                          Warning Page Example

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                          • Krome
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 2851

                            #14
                            fuck it we have just all been nice to someone asking for advice...
                            ok do this format c: and send your girl around to boneprone's house...

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                            • bigXvids
                              Registered User
                              • May 2002
                              • 46

                              #15
                              sinomatic - yeah i was actually thinking of doing that before, thanks for reminding me

                              any idea where i might find interested webmasters?

                              boneprone - i'll check em out... added you to my icq list btw, waiting for authorization

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                              • sinomatic
                                Registered User
                                • May 2002
                                • 149

                                #16
                                If you want a really good converting movies sponsor check this one out http://www.vividvip.com/partners/1013689/vip/
                                I know it's a bit of spam, but they convert fairly well for me good days its 1:300, average days it's around 1:450-650

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                                • DrewKole
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2001
                                  • 5193

                                  #17
                                  Dependin on what you'd charge for the spot, I may be interested big. =)

                                  Also, while everyone is here... anyone know where I can get licensed movie content from?

                                  I may try my hand at a movie tgp and ab site.

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                                  • sinomatic
                                    Registered User
                                    • May 2002
                                    • 149

                                    #18
                                    Um, you should really check out some of the well known movie sites and see what they have for banners. I would probably just contact those companies that advertise, show them that I have the traffic that they can utilize and maybe give them some kind of a competitive rate which beats the competition. But that's just my

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                                    • boneprone
                                      Hall Of Fame
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 34415

                                      #19
                                      stay the FUCK away from vivid.
                                      The name sells itself.
                                      NOT!

                                      IT fucking sucks. BAD!

                                      Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                      Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                      http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                      Learn about it kids.

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                                      • sinomatic
                                        Registered User
                                        • May 2002
                                        • 149

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DrewKole
                                        Dependin on what you'd charge for the spot, I may be interested big. =)

                                        Also, while everyone is here... anyone know where I can get licensed movie content from?

                                        I may try my hand at a movie tgp and ab site.
                                        Check this one out, it might be what you need http://www.setgo.com/content/videofeeds.html
                                        But that's just my

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                                        • bigXvids
                                          Registered User
                                          • May 2002
                                          • 46

                                          #21
                                          DrewKole - if you're interested, icq me on 6564713 and maybe we can work sumin out

                                          btw, thanks for all the input ppl, never thought i'd get so many replies this fast

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                                          • sinomatic
                                            Registered User
                                            • May 2002
                                            • 149

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by boneprone
                                            stay the FUCK away from vivid.
                                            The name sells itself.
                                            NOT!

                                            IT fucking sucks. BAD!
                                            I guess, but if you sell it with conjuction with something else, like a video store or a toy store, I've found that they convert fairly well. But I just started to use them, lexxx advised me against it but so far so good. I have noticed some drop off in sales lately though. But the first 4 months were great

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                                            • DrewKole
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 5193

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by sinomatic

                                              Check this one out, it might be what you need http://www.setgo.com/content/videofeeds.html
                                              But that's just my
                                              Thanks a bunch bud.

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                                              • Krome
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 2851

                                                #24
                                                I currently owe Vivid $300 or so due to charge backs...they used to be great at making you money now they are great at making you owe them!!

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                                                • sinomatic
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • May 2002
                                                  • 149

                                                  #25
                                                  You mean they exually asked you to give them back $300? what do you mean chargebacks. Were the cards used fraudulently?

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                                                  • playa
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                    • 6432

                                                    #26
                                                    place really good thumbs on the top part of your site and have them open to really nice sales page,,,,

                                                    then take the top 10 gallery listings for yourself,,, or better yet list only your own galleries,,,,

                                                    50k site then i assume you get like 250,000 out clicks,,
                                                    and if you using 75% for galleries than that means you'll get
                                                    187,500 page views to your galleries then the rest for your trades,,,,,

                                                    so out of 187,500 page views to your galleries say 3% click to your sponsers then that'll make 5625 clicks to your sponsers,,,
                                                    with that in mine say your converting 1 out 650 (average)
                                                    that'll approximately get you like 8 sign ups a day!!!

                                                    8X35=$280 a day!!!!

                                                    truely amazing you will be a rich man





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                                                    Data and information is provided for informational purposes only, and is only intended work in theory. If doesn't work out then don't get mad cuz chances are it wasn't gonna work anyways

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                                                    • Krome
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 2851

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by sinomatic
                                                      You mean they exually asked you to give them back $300? what do you mean chargebacks. Were the cards used fraudulently?
                                                      I do not know what happened, they have not asked me for the money back but when I check my stats I owe them money..I have -13 or so sign ups...

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                                                      • sinomatic
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • May 2002
                                                        • 149

                                                        #28
                                                        Yeh, I think I heard that in my Theory of Macro Econ last night.
                                                        true so so true. 35 or 40 x 8 + around 4k a month for ads = you are in business baby.

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                                                        • bigXvids
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • May 2002
                                                          • 46

                                                          #29
                                                          lol playa, i wish mate

                                                          my main sponsor on the site, volumebrokers, is converting at around 1:5000. all the links with a "hot" next to em lead to a volumebrokers sales page

                                                          it's not surprising tho, since most of the ppl that click on these links are thinking they're going to a gallery page with free movies

                                                          if i converted at 1:600 i'd be making crazy cash eheh

                                                          just gotta find another way to promote i guess :/

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                                                          • sinomatic
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • May 2002
                                                            • 149

                                                            #30
                                                            I'm telling you man , with that kind of traffic you have really good potential. Either to make money on ads or sponsors or both. Just try different combos. But first visit some of the most successful movie sites and see what they got.

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                                                            • hyper
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                              • 5294

                                                              #31
                                                              it's too neat.

                                                              i just have to keep my eye to the left side of the page for free shit

                                                              try ungrouping all of the gallery links like this.

                                                              put maybe 6 or 8 galleries at first, (charge for those spots)
                                                              why? because you want to get the surfer warmed up. he will probably buy more often either thru the gallery page or your sponsor you place underneath the top spots
                                                              then the rest of the galleries.

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                                                              • Exxxotica
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 4396

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by sinomatic
                                                                You mean they exually asked you to give them back $300? what do you mean chargebacks. Were the cards used fraudulently?
                                                                Time for my all favorite pic

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