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  • Badmaash
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    • Jan 2007
    • 2695
    #1

    How will .xxx work?

    They will exchange your .com adult domains for .xxx or overnight we will simply have to drop our adult sites and go and hope to reg a good .xxx?

    Have they thought about the above if it happens?
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    • TeenCat
      Too lazy to set a koala
      • Jan 2007
      • 16139
      #2
      i already preregistered gfy.xxx, pleasureads.xxx and brazzers.xxx

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        • u-Bob
          there's no $$$ in porn
          • Jul 2005
          • 33063
          #3
          They will make you pay $60 / .xxx domain / year.

          Say to goodbye to you SE rankings. Say goodbye to your typein/bookmark traffic.

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            • camperjohn64
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2005
              • 1531
              #4
              What will happen is everyone will squat .xxx domains, but nobody established on a .com will move a muscle. A complete waste of energy spent on .xxx domains.
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                • Zester
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 5344
                  #5
                  I'm out of the loop on this one - did .xxx get approved ?
                  Last edited by Zester; 10-30-2010, 03:41 AM.
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                    • Odysseus
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                      • Apr 2005
                      • 745
                      #6
                      Where to register .xxx ?

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                        • MrRob
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                          • Sep 2010
                          • 92
                          #7
                          Would this apply to sex toy shops as well?

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                            • u-Bob
                              there's no $$$ in porn
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 33063
                              #8
                              Originally posted by camperjohn64
                              What will happen is everyone will squat .xxx domains, but nobody established on a .com will move a muscle. A complete waste of energy spent on .xxx domains.
                              The ICM and Lawley are promoting the .xxx tld as "an effective way to filter out inappropriate websites". This means that they have plans to lobby to make the use of .xxx mandatory for adult websites because filtering based on the tld can only be "effective" if all adult content on the whole internet is located on sites using .xxx domains.

                              You know, I know, every webmaster knows that enforcing something like that or even trying to enforce something like that is impossible and will only create problems for everyone involved. However, since we are dealing with politicians that have no clue whatsoever about the technology involved (US senators Max Baucus (D., Montana) and Mark Pryor (D., Arkansas) have already proposed creating a .xxx tld and making it mandatory) and the ICM (an organisation that is looking to make a profit at our expense) we have to take into consideration that something that may now seem to be very unlikely may one day become our worst nightmare.
                              Last edited by u-Bob; 10-30-2010, 04:48 AM.

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                                • TeenCat
                                  Too lazy to set a koala
                                  • Jan 2007
                                  • 16139
                                  #9
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                                    • u-Bob
                                      there's no $$$ in porn
                                      • Jul 2005
                                      • 33063
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Zester
                                      I'm out of the loop on this one - did .xxx get approved ?
                                      No it didn't. But that doesn't stop Lawley from lying to the media and even claiming that the ICM registry is "the ICANN endorsed agency that monitors adult traffic".

                                      The fight is not over!

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                                        • Rankings
                                          Adult SEO
                                          • Jan 2004
                                          • 10633
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by u-Bob
                                          They will make you pay $60 / .xxx domain / year.

                                          Say to goodbye to you SE rankings. Say goodbye to your typein/bookmark traffic.

                                          Say goodbye to your SE rankings on Google.com , say hello to the ever so complicated future of

                                          Adult.Google.com or Google.com/Adult with talks of age verification required to access sites listed in these sections, as well as paid spots similiar to DMOZ when it was still pumping
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                                            • minicivan
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                                              • Jun 2007
                                              • 943
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Badmaash
                                              They will exchange your .com adult domains for .xxx or overnight we will simply have to drop our adult sites and go and hope to reg a good .xxx?

                                              Have they thought about the above if it happens?
                                              Really? You are actually asking these questions?

                                              This place is a total tard factory.

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                                                • wild johnny
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                                                  #13
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                                                    • Badmaash
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                                                      • Jan 2007
                                                      • 2695
                                                      #14
                                                      Why dont they just make people who want to use a .com for porn have to register the domain for adult puposes and then the SE's tag those .com's as being for porn. They can also release the .xxx and make money out of that aswell.... killed two birds with one stone!
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                                                        • Badmaash
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                                                          • Jan 2007
                                                          • 2695
                                                          #15
                                                          BTW - will rap music go on a .xxx too? What about alcohol site and drug sites?
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                                                            • woj
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                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 47882
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Badmaash
                                                              Why dont they just make people who want to use a .com for porn have to register the domain for adult puposes and then the SE's tag those .com's as being for porn.
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                                                                • TeenCat
                                                                  Too lazy to set a koala
                                                                  • Jan 2007
                                                                  • 16139
                                                                  #17
                                                                  so they will just take all our seo possitions and say good bye find other work to do after years of building your network? where to throw molotov cocktails please?

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                                                                    • u-Bob
                                                                      there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                                      • 33063
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Badmaash
                                                                      Why dont they just make people who want to use a .com for porn have to register the domain for adult puposes and then the SE's tag those .com's as being for porn. They can also release the .xxx and make money out of that aswell.... killed two birds with one stone!
                                                                      Why not let people do whatever they want as long as they don't cause damage to other people or their property?

                                                                      My sites = my property. If Google sends a surfer who's looking for white rabbits to one of my adult sites, who's to blame? Me or Google? If your Garmin or Tomtom gives you the wrong directions, who do you blame? the place you end up in or the Garmin/TomTom?

                                                                      btw: talking about labeling: a lot of people already use rta/safesurf or similar tags on their sites.
                                                                      Last edited by u-Bob; 10-30-2010, 06:35 AM.

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                                                                        • Nikki_Licks
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • May 2005
                                                                          • 6323
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                          The ICM and Lawley are promoting the .xxx tld as "an effective way to filter out inappropriate websites". This means that they have plans to lobby to make the use of .xxx mandatory for adult websites because filtering based on the tld can only be "effective" if all adult content on the whole internet is located on sites using .xxx domains.

                                                                          You know, I know, every webmaster knows that enforcing something like that or even trying to enforce something like that is impossible and will only create problems for everyone involved. However, since we are dealing with politicians that have no clue whatsoever about the technology involved (US senators Max Baucus (D., Montana) and Mark Pryor (D., Arkansas) have already proposed creating a .xxx tld and making it mandatory) and the ICM (an organisation that is looking to make a profit at our expense) we have to take into consideration that something that may now seem to be very unlikely may one day become our worst nightmare.
                                                                          Don't forget the ASACP who will also benefit from this by receiving donations by ICM for every .XXX domain sold.
                                                                          I feel they are as evil and as low as lawley....they are not concerned about how this will affect this industry and the people who have worked hard to get where they are.

                                                                          They are more concerned about the millions of dollars they will pocket at the expense of those in this business. As far as I am concerned, this is nothing short of monetary rape and they know it ;)
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                                                                            • Fabien
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                              • 4789
                                                                              #20
                                                                              We must do everything we can to make sure this shit NEVER HAPPENS.

                                                                              Can you imagine all those years building up networks gone into the toilet in a few secs ?

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                                                                                • u-Bob
                                                                                  there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                                                  • 33063
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Fabien
                                                                                  We must do everything we can to make sure this shit NEVER HAPPENS.
                                                                                  Exactly! One way to fight this is to comment on every article, blog post etc you can find about the .xxx tld.

                                                                                  If Lawley thinks it's important enough to post there, we should all take a minute of our time and post as well.
                                                                                  http://domainnamewire.com/2010/09/22...-form-letters/
                                                                                  http://www.thedomains.com/2010/10/29...g-in-december/

                                                                                  let the world know that you are "an adult webmaster and don't want the .xxx tld", that you are "a parent and don't believe the .xxx will protect your children", that you are "a small business owner and that the .xxx tld will hurt your business", that you "believe in free speech and that the .xxx will only bring censorship", that you are "an entrepreneur and believe that the .xxx tld will harm free enterprise",....

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                                                                                    • Nikki_Licks
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                                      • 6323
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                                      Exactly! One way to fight this is to comment on every article, blog post etc you can find about the .xxx tld.

                                                                                      If Lawley thinks it's important enough to post there, we should all take a minute of our time and post as well.
                                                                                      http://domainnamewire.com/2010/09/22...-form-letters/
                                                                                      http://www.thedomains.com/2010/10/29...g-in-december/

                                                                                      let the world know that you are "an adult webmaster and don't want the .xxx tld", that you are "a parent and don't believe the .xxx will protect your children", that you are "a small business owner and that the .xxx tld will hurt your business", that you "believe in free speech and that the .xxx will only bring censorship", that you are "an entrepreneur and believe that the .xxx tld will harm free enterprise",....
                                                                                      Thank you for the links ;)

                                                                                      I think we all need to stay on top of this in order to shoot down .XXX, if we don't we will all pay the price in the end.
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                                                                                        • AzteK
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                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                          • 3451
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by 2bet
                                                                                          Say goodbye to your SE rankings on Google.com , say hello to the ever so complicated future of

                                                                                          Adult.Google.com or Google.com/Adult with talks of age verification required to access sites listed in these sections, as well as paid spots similiar to DMOZ when it was still pumping
                                                                                          Like Google needs .xxx to filter adult content...please.

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                                                                                            • Chosen
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                                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                                              • 63151
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by TeenCat
                                                                                              i already preregistered gfy.xxx, pleasureads.xxx and brazzers.xxx
                                                                                              LoL

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                                                                                                • Machete_
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                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                  • 14579
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  all adult content on the whole internet is located on sites using .xxx domains
                                                                                                  is there a definition of adult content?

                                                                                                  imagine what a clusterfuck it's gonna be trying to sort the websites by "adult content"

                                                                                                  double assfuck penetrations vs. bikini sites vs. tmz-like sites?

                                                                                                  people will revolt if they try to pull something like that

                                                                                                  Last edited by Machete_; 10-30-2010, 08:16 AM.

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                                                                                                    • u-Bob
                                                                                                      there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                                                                      • 33063
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Machete_
                                                                                                      is there a definition of adult content?
                                                                                                      exactly!

                                                                                                      Originally posted by Machete_
                                                                                                      imagine what a clusterfuck it's gonna be trying to sort the websites by "adult content"
                                                                                                      true!

                                                                                                      Originally posted by Machete_
                                                                                                      people will revolt if they try to pull something like that
                                                                                                      Most people simply don't understand the situation or implications. If they don't understand it, they won't care. Hell, people even didn't complain when TSA 'agents' wanted them to go through 'naked picture scanners' at the airports. People didn't complain when they redefined 'acts of terrorism' as 'any act intended to cause harm to any member of society'. etc People don't understand how the internet works (most so called 'webmasters' don't either) and if someone tells them it's for "the good of the children", they will be ok with it...
                                                                                                      Last edited by u-Bob; 10-30-2010, 08:42 AM.

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                                                                                                        • u-Bob
                                                                                                          there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                                          • Jul 2005
                                                                                                          • 33063
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by AzteK
                                                                                                          Like Google needs .xxx to filter adult content...please.
                                                                                                          It's not about that. It's about losing time/effort/money invested in current sites/rankings/typeins/bookmarkers because of the greed of one unethical company (the ICM)

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                                                                                                            • minicivan
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                                                                                                              • 943
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Badmaash
                                                                                                              Why dont they just make people who want to use a .com for porn have to register the domain for adult puposes and then the SE's tag those .com's as being for porn. They can also release the .xxx and make money out of that aswell.... killed two birds with one stone!
                                                                                                              The thing you don't seem to get like many in this idiotic and this debate of those suffering from paranoid delusions about "what could happen" is that no one other the company pushing for .xxx has stated any intention of doing anything to regulate where adult content goes.

                                                                                                              Its just a private company.

                                                                                                              And why did they do state these intentions and put forth this idea?

                                                                                                              Simple, as part of the ICANN application process they have to demonstrate a need for it and community support for it. This was their bullshit reason as a "need" for it. They may as well say its because they want to create a safe haven for unicorns. It doesn't mean anything at all. It certainly doesn't mean the worlds governments are going to step in and require a single, private, USA based company to lord over all adult content online worldwide - which is completely absurd and moronic not to mention NO ONE has ever once put forth any reasonable ideas as to how this might be done or managed...not to mention the simple fact that no one has addressed how all variations of a domain on all tlds (i.e. sex.com, sex.net, sex.org, sex.lv, sex.nu, sex.au, sex.100+ more) are all going to suddenly co-exist on a single .xxx domain.

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                                                                                                                • DBS.US
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                                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                  • 11843
                                                                                                                  #29
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                                                                                                                    • AzteK
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                                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                      • 3451
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                                                                      It's not about that. It's about losing time/effort/money invested in current sites/rankings/typeins/bookmarkers because of the greed of one unethical company (the ICM)
                                                                                                                      You really think they're going to yank all the other TLD's with adult content?

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                                                                                                                        • u-Bob
                                                                                                                          there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                                                          • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                          • 33063
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by AzteK
                                                                                                                          You really think they're going to yank all the other TLD's with adult content?
                                                                                                                          * The ICM Registry has already stated that those are their intentions.
                                                                                                                          * At least 2 US senators have already proposed legislation to do exactly that.

                                                                                                                          Do I think they will succeed? No.

                                                                                                                          Do I think they'll keep trying? Yes.

                                                                                                                          Do I think they'll create a lot of problems trying? Yes.

                                                                                                                          Does fighting the .xxx proposal cost me money? No

                                                                                                                          Will the .xxx tld (if created) cost me money? Yes. (even as I am not planning on buying any .xxx domain)

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                                                                                                                            • minicivan
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                                                                                                                              • Jun 2007
                                                                                                                              • 943
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                                                                              * The ICM Registry has already stated that those are their intentions.
                                                                                                                              Do you have a link to that or something to back that up?

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                                                                                                                                • u-Bob
                                                                                                                                  there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 33063
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by minicivan
                                                                                                                                  Do you have a link to that or something to back that up?
                                                                                                                                  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10412765

                                                                                                                                  ICM Registry, which is backing the domain, said .xxx would make it easier to filter out inappropriate content.

                                                                                                                                  ...

                                                                                                                                  Stuart Lawley, chairman of ICM, welcomed the decision and said it was "great news for those that wish to consume, or avoid, adult content".

                                                                                                                                  The ICM has been making similar statements for a long time now. Several times they've called the .xxx tld "an effective way to filter out adult content".


                                                                                                                                  So either the ICM Registry is lying and they don't want to offer an "effective way to filter out adult content" or they want to make the use of a .xxx domain mandatory, because filtering out adult content content based on the tld can only be effective if all adult content is on sites using a .xxx domain.

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                                                                                                                                    • minicivan
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                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2007
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                                                                                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10412765

                                                                                                                                      [I]ICM Registry, which is backing the domain, said .xxx would make it easier to filter out inappropriate content.
                                                                                                                                      .
                                                                                                                                      Sorry man. I'm exhausted from too many late nights. I thought when i read it that you were saying "ICANN"... my bad.

                                                                                                                                      Everyone gets that a private company is making these claims. They will own .xxx and they have to come up with justifications for creating it as part of the process. NO ONE has EVER given any reasonable explanation as to how those things might actually happen though. Its just not possible.

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                                                                                                                                        • stocktrader23
                                                                                                                                          Let's do some business.
                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 18781
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by minicivan
                                                                                                                                          Do you have a link to that or something to back that up?
                                                                                                                                          This shit has been discussed for nearly a decade, search GFY. There is nothing good about .xxx. Even the idiots that think they are going to snag a nice name and retire are wrong, the big boys would never let this happen.


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                                                                                                                                            • stocktrader23
                                                                                                                                              Let's do some business.
                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 18781
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                                                                                              http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10412765

                                                                                                                                              ICM Registry, which is backing the domain, said .xxx would make it easier to filter out inappropriate content.

                                                                                                                                              ...

                                                                                                                                              Stuart Lawley, chairman of ICM, welcomed the decision and said it was "great news for those that wish to consume, or avoid, adult content".

                                                                                                                                              The ICM has been making similar statements for a long time now. Several times they've called the .xxx tld "an effective way to filter out adult content".


                                                                                                                                              So either the ICM Registry is lying and they don't want to offer an "effective way to filter out adult content" or they want to make the use of a .xxx domain mandatory, because filtering out adult content content based on the tld can only be effective if all adult content is on sites using a .xxx domain.
                                                                                                                                              It doesn't even matter though. Once a place exists that you can put all the porn the government will be right in trying to make it happen. What Lawley says is irrelevant, .xxx is fucking trash.


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                                                                                                                                                • baddog
                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 107089
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by wild johnny
                                                                                                                                                  I pre-regged a few ,If I get one of the ones I picked my retirement account will fatten up.
                                                                                                                                                  You support .xxx

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                                                                                                                                                    • u-Bob
                                                                                                                                                      there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                      • 33063
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                                                                                                                      Once a place exists that you can put all the porn the government will be right in trying to make it happen.
                                                                                                                                                      true. the point I was trying to make here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...50&postcount=8

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                                                                                                                                                        • u-Bob
                                                                                                                                                          there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                          • 33063
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                          You support .xxx

                                                                                                                                                          I guess we can blacklist all of his sites: http://www.wildg.com/, http://gifster.com/,...

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                                                                                                                                                            • BIGTYMER
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                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2004
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Fuck dot triple x.

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                                                                                                                                                                • AzteK
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                  • 3451
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                                                                                                                  * The ICM Registry has already stated that those are their intentions.
                                                                                                                                                                  * At least 2 US senators have already proposed legislation to do exactly that.

                                                                                                                                                                  Do I think they will succeed? No.

                                                                                                                                                                  Do I think they'll keep trying? Yes.

                                                                                                                                                                  Do I think they'll create a lot of problems trying? Yes.

                                                                                                                                                                  Does fighting the .xxx proposal cost me money? No

                                                                                                                                                                  Will the .xxx tld (if created) cost me money? Yes. (even as I am not planning on buying any .xxx domain)
                                                                                                                                                                  thanks for your response

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                                                                                                                                                                    • baddog
                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                                                                                                                      I guess we can blacklist all of his sites: http://www.wildg.com/, http://gifster.com/,...
                                                                                                                                                                      I am sure many would find that a worthy cause.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Redrob
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          This is from an earlier thread that was started yesterday:

                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Redrob
                                                                                                                                                                          FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
                                                                                                                                                                          October 29, 2010
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                                                                                                                                                                          FSC Claims Victory: ?It?s Far From Over?

                                                                                                                                                                          MARINA DEL REY, Calif. ? After Free Speech Coalition (FSC) submitted a letter to ICANN regarding consideration of the Governmental Advisory Committee?s (GAC) concerns in the approval process for the proposed .XXX sTLD, the ICANN Board of Directors yesterday resolved to delay any decision on .XXX until December.


                                                                                                                                                                          The action was reported in TheDomains.com (http://www.thedomains.com/2010/10/29...g-in-december/). The ICANN decision effectively halts the approval process and recognizes necessary consideration of GAC?s prior opposition to the .XXX sTLD and concerns for lack of sponsorship from the adult online community.


                                                                                                                                                                          In 2006, ICANN?s GAC opposed the passage of .XXX in their Wellington Communiqué. At the ICANN Conference in Lisbon, in 2007, GAC reaffirmed that opposition stating, ?The Wellington Communiqué remains a valid and important expression of the GAC?s views on .xxx. The GAC does not consider the information provided by the Board to have answered the GAC concerns as to whether the ICM Application meets the sponsorship criteria.?


                                                                                                                                                                          FSC Executive Director Diane Duke has travelled to Lisbon in 2007, as well as Brussels this past June, in order to oppose .XXX. She said, ?While attending the GAC meeting in Brussels, I observed an informal conversation among its members, there was general consensus that its concerns had still not been addressed, and its prior Communiqué objections stand.


                                                                                                                                                                          ?Stuart Lawley can stand on the rooftops and shout that this is a done deal all he wants but this is an insurmountable obstacle for ICM to overcome,? Duke added. ?FSC pointed that fact out to the Board in our letter requesting that they seek consultation with GAC and apparently, they agreed.?




                                                                                                                                                                          The proposed .XXX sTLD is scheduled to be discussed at the next ICANN Board of Directors meeting to be held in December, in Columbia.

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                                                                                                                                                                          The Free Speech Coalition is the national trade organization to the adult entertainment industry. Its mission is to lead, protect and support the growth and well-being of the adult entertainment community.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • DDuke
                                                                                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2007
                                                                                                                                                                              • 16
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Quick update?
                                                                                                                                                                              According to the Board resolution from ICANN?s October 28th Board meeting:

                                                                                                                                                                              The Board Chair shall engage the GAC Chair on developing a process for consultation with the GAC on its advice about the ICM application.

                                                                                                                                                                              That means the ICANN Board must go to GAC (Government Advisory Council) and have it clarify its previous advice from their Wellington Communiqué (a document from the ICANN conference in 2006) and their Lisbon Communiqué (a document from the ICANN conference in Lisbon of 2007). Both documents oppose moving forward with .XXX.

                                                                                                                                                                              The good news is that from what I gathered at the June GAC meeting in Brussels, the GAC feels as if nothing has changed and that its original decision stands. Also, according to ICANN?s Bylaws, the Board is required to take GAC advice into consideration. If they do not go with GAC advice they have to explain why.

                                                                                                                                                                              The bad news is that it seems that the ICANN Board Chair, Peter Dengate-Thrush is very much in favor of .XXX. SO we must get to the other Board members.

                                                                                                                                                                              FSC will write a letter to GAC and connect with the people on GAC with whom we have established relationships in order to lobby against .XXX. Additionally, we will work with our counterpart EROS in Australia to do the same. We will also write a letter to the ICANN Board touching on the concerns raised by GAC and point out that the GAC?a committee comprised of 150 governments--and the entire adult community oppose .XXX while the only entity that supports .XXX is ICM?an entity that stands to make hundreds of millions annually off the industry.

                                                                                                                                                                              It?s not over folks. FSC will be in Cartagena fighting for the industry and we will be submitting a number of documents to ICANN and GAC before then.

                                                                                                                                                                              Should ICANN move forward with .XXX there are still three avenues for appeal FSC and the industry can and will consider.

                                                                                                                                                                              Finally we are looking into ways that industry professionals can lobby GAC and the ICANN Board. Stay tuned, we will keep you posted.

                                                                                                                                                                              Remember, the decision from the ICANN Board to seek consultation from GAC is a very good sign. Don?t believe the crap that Stuart Lawley is spouting-don?t drink the Koolaid?it is far from over!
                                                                                                                                                                              Diane Duke
                                                                                                                                                                              FSC, Executive Director
                                                                                                                                                                              [email protected]

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                                                                                                                                                                                • wild johnny
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2009
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 723
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                                                  You support .xxx

                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                                                                                                                                  I guess we can blacklist all of his sites: http://www.wildg.com/, http://gifster.com/,...
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                                                  I am sure many would find that a worthy cause.
                                                                                                                                                                                  No I do not support .xxx

                                                                                                                                                                                  But I don't want to be standing around looking stupid either if it does come about. The decision whether it gets approved or not is way out of my hands.

                                                                                                                                                                                  So I guess it is ok to secretly preregister your domains in the event that it does come about. But in public you have to deny that you done so. How fake!

                                                                                                                                                                                  Well at the first of the year if it does happen to get approved we will see just how many people that are against it have .xxx domains immediately.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Contact.....Johnny[at]wildg[.]com

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Redrob
                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 4791
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Don't feel bad about preregistering a .xxx gTLD domain name.

                                                                                                                                                                                      When the program was announced, the adult industry did not have a clear understanding of the goals and ramifications of the .XXX gTLD program and had not organized itself in opposition. Moreover, several major adult players came out in support of .xxx at that time. Many people registered domains during that time as nothing was seen as being wrong with the registrations. Since that time, many have registered their .com domain names in order to protect their existing businesses.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Neither situation should be a cause for embarrassment as the actions occurred either before the ramifications were clear or in order to protect your existing domains which are both reasonable business decisions given the situations.

                                                                                                                                                                                      As ICM has said that preregistrations will not be used as a sign of industry support, potentially, no serious harm was done.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Now, knowing what we know, just be sure to show your opposition to .XXX when asked by your trade association, the Free Speech Coalition.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Just my personal opinion.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Last edited by Redrob; 10-30-2010, 07:39 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • wild johnny
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2009
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 723
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          I have voiced my opposition directly to Icann and other places. As directed by people at this forum that have posted links to organized opposition support places.

                                                                                                                                                                                          It is sensible people like you Redrob that keeps me believing in this business..
                                                                                                                                                                                          Contact.....Johnny[at]wildg[.]com

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Redrob
                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 4791
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Wild Johnny,

                                                                                                                                                                                              Thank you for the compliment. <blushes>

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • bolsex
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 717
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  .xxx really sucks!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Hermes
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 264
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I think it's important to discuss and list the exact negative effects of .xxx VS the proposed "benefits". Then if we use logical reasoning in all the feedback it should have much more weight than 1000 plain "I oppose" comments, because many people involved don't automaticly see the big picture.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      "ICM Registry, which is backing the domain, said .xxx would make it easier to filter out inappropriate content."
                                                                                                                                                                                                      That's their main reasoning, but as been said here it's already next to impossible to filter all the sites, and this kind of filtering could be already done on other levels, like some mandatory html tag or file, without need to alter domain names.
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