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  • AaronM
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    • Oct 2001
    • 46917
    #1

    BUSINESS THREAD: Video Light Panel Questions.

    I have limited experience with light panels but I also have the need to purchase some now.


    I have a room which is approximately 20' by 20' with very high ceilings.

    What I know is that I am looking for 1 light panel to put above the set and 2 for set level.

    What I don't know is what brands to purchase or what models of what brands for what reasons.

    Kino Flo comes to mind but am I paying for the name or are they truly one of the best options? Whether Kino Flo or not......Which models should I be considering based on my lighting needs?

    I would also prefer something that has the option of its own shipping cases.

    Any words of wisdom on this is greatly appreciated.
    Last edited by AaronM; 04-24-2007, 02:45 PM.
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    • SinisterStudios
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2003
      • 3087
      #2
      I have 6 4" 4 blub Kino Flo's and i love them to death, but if i had to go out and buy they for retail again id go a different route. Kino's are great but way overpriced, checkout Fotodiox Ive got one of these and i plan on buying more, the price is great and they throw alot of good light
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        • AaronM
          GFY Royality ;)
          • Oct 2001
          • 46917
          #3
          Originally posted by SinisterStudios
          I have 6 4" 4 blub Kino Flo's and i love them to death, but if i had to go out and buy they for retail again id go a different route. Kino's are great but way overpriced, checkout Fotodiox Ive got one of these and i plan on buying more, the price is great and they throw alot of good light

          Looks like this is a series of lights.....Any suggestions on which I should consider?

          And.....I notice on the bottom left of this pic that they use a "lihgt stand mount" that I'm not sure is compatible with regular Light stands. ;)

          They should give me some free shit for pointing out their typo.

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            • tony299
              lurker
              • Aug 2002
              • 57021
              #4
              Originally posted by SinisterStudios
              I have 6 4" 4 blub Kino Flo's and i love them to death, but if i had to go out and buy they for retail again id go a different route. Kino's are great but way overpriced, checkout Fotodiox Ive got one of these and i plan on buying more, the price is great and they throw alot of good light
              I agree if your not moving them alot ,then you dont need kino. My friend who is a mainstream videographer(the news) just got a lowel one and is very happy. For him its got to take abuse.

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                • AaronM
                  GFY Royality ;)
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 46917
                  #5
                  Originally posted by tony404
                  I agree if your not moving them alot ,then you dont need kino. My friend who is a mainstream videographer(the news) just got a lowel one and is very happy. For him its got to take abuse.

                  I need them for a specific project now but in the future, I will also use them so they ill need to be fairly sturdy and able to take a bit of abuse.

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                    • SinisterStudios
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 3087
                      #6
                      Originally posted by AaronM
                      Looks like this is a series of lights.....Any suggestions on which I should consider?

                      And.....I notice on the bottom left of this pic that they use a "lihgt stand mount" that I'm not sure is compatible with regular Light stands. ;)

                      They should give me some free shit for pointing out their typo.

                      They are pretty heavy for standard light stands, i use C stands for them and my kinos. I mount these guys overhead to wash the back wall and use 3-4 kinos in front (2 up high and 2 down low) to flood the enitire room with light. The fotodiox throws alot of light, its great for lighting up a big area. I have a 3500 sq foot studio and my sets are roughly 15 x 15 each and it throws enough light to backlight the entire set. Id get 2 to test them and see if they work for you, then get 2 more to complete the set ( 4 total 1 above, and then 3 for point lighting)
                      Last edited by SinisterStudios; 04-24-2007, 03:07 PM.
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                        • newbreed
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 9898
                          #7
                          Aaron, I looked in to these heavily a couple of months ago. All options led me back to the Kinos. If you still have that secret squirell address I'll shoot you the quote we got back from our local supplier.

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                            • newbreed
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 9898
                              #8
                              Apparently you no longer use that email address, it just bounced back to me. I'll try your other one...

                              Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                              I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                              fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                                • AaronM
                                  GFY Royality ;)
                                  • Oct 2001
                                  • 46917
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by newbreed
                                  Apparently you no longer use that email address, it just bounced back to me. I'll try your other one...

                                  Nothing in my inbox or spam filter yet.

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                                    • DWB
                                      Registered User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 31779
                                      #10
                                      Kinoflo is bad ass but if you can get a knock off brand, do so.

                                      I'd sell you an extra pair I have but they are in Thailand right now. I never use them and they are collecting dust.

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                                        • DWB
                                          Registered User
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 31779
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by tony404
                                          I agree if your not moving them alot ,then you dont need kino. My friend who is a mainstream videographer(the news) just got a lowel one and is very happy. For him its got to take abuse.
                                          Only one?

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                                            • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                              Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                                              • Jul 2004
                                              • 38323
                                              #12
                                              FloLight has some good lesser expensive versions of lights similar to Kino Flo (plus the initial tubes are included):



                                              They will be selling direct only for a short time longer - after that you will have to buy them through Distributors (B & H, Samy's, etc) and the prices will go up by 25% or so.

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                                              Last edited by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude; 04-24-2007, 05:17 PM.
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                                                • tony299
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                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 57021
                                                  #13
                                                  do you think two of these would work in hotel room shoots?
                                                  http://www.flolight.com/fl110.htm
                                                  the lowels just get so fucking hot

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                                                    • tony299
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                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 57021
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                      Only one?
                                                      its for interviews, he says we porn guys use way too much light lol

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                                                        • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                          • 38323
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by tony404
                                                          do you think two of these would work in hotel room shoots?
                                                          http://www.flolight.com/fl110.htm
                                                          the lowels just get so fucking hot
                                                          Since the tubes are flourescent, they stay relatively cool (a lot cooler than the 1800w of hot lights I currently have been using). Would probably be the minimum I would use for video (I ordered three FL220s).

                                                          If you intend for them to double as still photo lights, then you definitely need a higher output like the 220s - also if you are using them for stills, invest in a good Canon IS lens, since they work better in lower light (assuming you have a Canon body).

                                                          Regarding "too much light", they are dimmable...more lights = more options.

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                                                          Last edited by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude; 04-24-2007, 05:36 PM.
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                                                            • tony299
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                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 57021
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                              Since the tubes are flourescent, they stay relatively cool (a lot cooler than the 1800w of hot lights I currently have been using). Would probably be the minimum I would use for video (I ordered three FL220s).

                                                              If you intend for them to double as still photo lights, then you definitely need a higher output like the 220s - also if you are using them for stills, invest in a good Canon IS lens, since they work better in lower light (assuming you have a Canon body).

                                                              Regarding "too much light", they are dimmable...more lights = more options.

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                                                              thanks, shooting with hot lights gets hotter than hell lol

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                                                                • tony299
                                                                  lurker
                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 57021
                                                                  #17
                                                                  this looks very cool http://www.flolight.com/miclight.htm

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                                                                    • Grapesoda
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                      • 46234
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                      I have limited experience with light panels but I also have the need to purchase some now.


                                                                      I have a room which is approximately 20' by 20' with very high ceilings.

                                                                      What I know is that I am looking for 1 light panel to put above the set and 2 for set level.

                                                                      What I don't know is what brands to purchase or what models of what brands for what reasons.

                                                                      Kino Flo comes to mind but am I paying for the name or are they truly one of the best options? Whether Kino Flo or not......Which models should I be considering based on my lighting needs?

                                                                      I would also prefer something that has the option of its own shipping cases.

                                                                      Any words of wisdom on this is greatly appreciated.

                                                                      mole-richardson biax are a real good investment, dimable, constant color temp
                                                                      Last edited by Grapesoda; 04-24-2007, 05:54 PM.

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                                                                        • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                                          • 38323
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by tony404
                                                                          thanks, shooting with hot lights gets hotter than hell lol
                                                                          I drink a huge bottle of water every shoot to keep from getting dehydrated, and it's not unusual for me to lose 5+ pounds during a daylong shoot (video shooters are closer to the lights for long periods than the models/performers are).

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                                                                            • Jim_Gunn
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                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                              • 5702
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Kino Flos are expensive but they are great gear. I have two 4-foot four bank Kino Flo fixtures that came in a huge case and was called the Gaffer Select kit which I use as my main lights. The case is so big though it is not really portable.

                                                                              I usually add some Lowel tungsten lights with CTB gels over the fixtures further away from the models to light the edges of the set and the background. I have a couple of sturdy Avenger stands to support them. I only use the daylight balanced bulbs so I can mix them with natural daylight from any windows that may exist in the location. I am next going to add another two to four fluorescent fixtures. I think I will look into some of these other options besides Kino Flos to get more lights for the bucks.
                                                                              Last edited by Jim_Gunn; 04-24-2007, 05:57 PM.

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                                                                                • vidvicious
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 4765
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  I'm with Kino flows too .. Diva's are very portable and come with a very sturdy travel case ...

                                                                                  See as you travel alot portability should be an important factor in your descion ..
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                                                                                    • jonesy
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                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                      • 6688
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                                      Kinoflo is bad ass but if you can get a knock off brand, do so.

                                                                                      I'd sell you an extra pair I have but they are in Thailand right now. I never use them and they are collecting dust.
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                                                                                        • jonesy
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                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                          • 6688
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          http://www.kinoflo.com/Lighting%20Fi...-Lite/Kits.htm

                                                                                          Diva-Lite 400 Kit (2-Unit) w/ Flight Case
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                                                                                            • Gregory Black
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                                                                                              • Apr 2007
                                                                                              • 282
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Aaron, I use all Kino. I have some 4x4 banks and also some parabeams but if I had to do it all over again I would just get all Diva 400s because they are low weight, dimable, and pack more punch than the banks.

                                                                                              Here is a good cheaper alternative
                                                                                              http://www.coollights.biz/

                                                                                              But I use Kino because in 3 years of shooting they have NEVER FAILED ME and that is worth the extra dough in my book.

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                                                                                                • RevSand
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                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                  • 8151
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                                                                  I drink a huge bottle of water every shoot to keep from getting dehydrated, and it's not unusual for me to lose 5+ pounds during a daylong shoot (video shooters are closer to the lights for long periods than the models/performers are).

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                                                                                                  I always have to make sure I pick up a bottle of something to drink before a shoot.. The one time I did not I thought I was gonna die and had to send someone out to get me something (besides the gross tap water I was drinking.)


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                                                                                                    • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                                                      • 38323
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by RevSand
                                                                                                      I always have to make sure I pick up a bottle of something to drink before a shoot.. The one time I did not I thought I was gonna die and had to send someone out to get me something (besides the gross tap water I was drinking.)
                                                                                                      The talent always laughs when I have a case of water sitting on the hospitality table, but by the end of the day it's almost always gone along with most of the platters of food I provide.

                                                                                                      People may not always remember when things go smooth and they are pampered, but they sure as hell will bitch and moan to others when they are not catered to.

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                                                                                                        • Gregory Black
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                                                                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                                                                          • 282
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                                                                                                          Kino Flos are expensive but they are great gear. I have two 4-foot four bank Kino Flo fixtures that came in a huge case and was called the Gaffer Select kit which I use as my main lights. The case is so big though it is not really portable.

                                                                                                          I usually add some Lowel tungsten lights with CTB gels over the fixtures further away from the models to light the edges of the set and the background. I have a couple of sturdy Avenger stands to support them. I only use the daylight balanced bulbs so I can mix them with natural daylight from any windows that may exist in the location. I am next going to add another two to four fluorescent fixtures. I think I will look into some of these other options besides Kino Flos to get more lights for the bucks.
                                                                                                          No shit that case is not portable at all. I turned mine into a TV stand

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