Way to go OC Modeling : Re the current HIV mess..

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  • stocktrader23
    Let's do some business.
    • Jan 2003
    • 18781

    #121
    Originally posted by AmeliaG
    Sigh. The facts are that unprotected anal sex is a lot less safe than vaginal or oral sex. Are we going to stop having anal in porn or permitting performers who have anal sex in their personal lives from performing in porn?
    No shit? And the other fact is that guys that sleep with guys are the highest risk group there is. It doesn't matter what the underlying cause is (anal) because that group is more dangerous by a few orders of magnitude.

    This simple minded defend the gays stance you and xxx jay have chosen to take is extremely fucking retarded. Just know that.


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    • Nathan
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 3108

      #122
      For those that do not know...

      AIM tests performers as often as the performer wants to be tested. Usually the industry demands a test and verifies it on AIM's website which is not older than 30 days.

      AIM does blood tests using the RNA method, as far as I know. They take longer to do, but react sooner after infection than anti-body tests. 9-11 days after infection they are positive.

      The reason why so many people here complain about gay / straight performers is that with unprotected anal sex infection risk is 1-3% (1.7% one study says), and is the highest risk in sexual transmission. Female to Male transmission via non-anal sex is 0.04% and Male to Female is 0.08%. So anal sex is a LOT riskier (20 times compared to make to female).

      But any anal sex in adult obviously is as dangerous. So I do not understand the hate against OC Modeling, makes no sense to me...

      The thing I also do not understand is why people are so afraid. AIM acted perfectly as expected. All 1st and 2nd gen performers are quarantined. They will not get tests and so any real studio in the US will not shoot with them. Obviously there might be criminals out there, but then even mandatory condom use will not help since there will be as many criminals there too.

      Not a single one of the tests of 1st and 2nd gen have returned positive for now. The system is working perfectly. Sure there is a risk in the industry because of the frequency of tests and the 9-11 days a test returns positive, but the risk is very very small compared to barebacking outside of the industry. Much smaller!

      Even with condom use, I _bet_ this outbreak would still have happened, since patient zero obviously infected himself OUTSIDE of the industry...
      "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
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      • Socks
        Confirmed User
        • May 2002
        • 8475

        #123
        Nathan, at what point will Brazzers start shooting again?

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        • Machete_
          WINNING!
          • Oct 2002
          • 14579

          #124
          Originally posted by amacontent
          Cameron Reid, male actor repped by OC Modeling , who apparently has a nice supply of gay films under his belt , is the HIV ground zero patient..
          fags should be banned from doing straight porn

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          • Nathan
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2003
            • 3108

            #125
            Originally posted by Socks
            Nathan, at what point will Brazzers start shooting again?
            Socks, as soon as AIM removes the quarantine. All our performers that we had scheduled were retested as far as I know right now, and none of them are positive, but we are still of course waiting. The 2nd test for anyone in the quarantine list will be next week as far as I understand, since it will be 99% accurate at that time based on when patient zero was tested positive.

            We expect to know that everything is safe by no later than the 25th of this month unless there is another case.

            We are also currently testing production crews in Europe and most of them are shooting as far as I know.

            Any production we are involved in in Europe uses more screening though just to be safe right now, tests have to be very new for example, ie a few days old max.
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            • deanberkeley
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2006
              • 634

              #126
              Originally posted by Machete_
              fags should be banned from doing straight porn

              How do you find out someone is a 'fag'? There are lots of women out there who are married to 'fags' and have no idea. There are also lots of churches out there with 'fags' at the helm and no one really knows. Do you have a test to find out this 'fagism' ?

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              • charlie g
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2006
                • 2759

                #127
                Originally posted by xxxjay
                Source:
                http://www.lukeisback.com/?p=14204


                To AMA Joe: And if that doesn't work I'm going to beat you fat disgusting ass. The only way you can get pussy is basically paying for a private and calling in a "POV"? Weren't you just at my house on my birthday on 9/11/2010 enjoying my carne asada, beer, women, and liquor? Couldn't you have expressed your opinions to me in private without going to GFY, and (I might add) breaking the law?

                PS: Every agency has male talent that are "switch hitters" and have done gay porn to break into the business. Not just us. Everyone!! Even the legendary male pornstars have a few gay scenes under their belt.

                On a side note: I happen to agree with you on the whole gay men not being in straight porn, however: AIM, no agency on Earth, or any other group that I know of can keep track of what a performer is doing in their private lives 24/7.

                Hence, the title of this thread I find especially insulting and enraging. AIM acted in a 100% professional manner and notified 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation performers within 24 hours. Kudos to them on that.

                In A Nutshell: Expect to be hearing from our lawyers. You will be sued. You will lose. You will pay us money. If that doesn't work, see me out in public, I've survived a year in prison in Atlanta without being killed, I am not a pushover. I'm not afraid to slap you like the bitch you are.

                AMA Joe
                DUDE, if I could rep you I would.. Way to bring it..... I would like to set up a pay per view on this!
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                • stocktrader23
                  Let's do some business.
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 18781

                  #128
                  Originally posted by deanberkeley
                  How do you find out someone is a 'fag'? There are lots of women out there who are married to 'fags' and have no idea. There are also lots of churches out there with 'fags' at the helm and no one really knows. Do you have a test to find out this 'fagism' ?
                  You can start with the ones that offer to take it in the ass for cash.


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                  • charlie g
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 2759

                    #129
                    Originally posted by deanberkeley
                    My point exactly. As a person who has been around several close friends when they found out they were HIV+ and how just the stigma of the disease changes their lives even when they have no symptoms. In fact, none have developed AIDS. The depression, the suicidal tendencies, it is not a pretty sight and it changes their lives forever. It is not something you want to see a friend, or for that matter another human being, have to go through.

                    Already while I am reading this thread I cringe at the fact that if it is this guy who tested positive, he is being publicly outed and ridiculed in this manner. In what is already probably one of the most trying and difficult times of his life, he now is dealing with it in a very public way that must be absolutely brutal for him to endure.

                    I feel sorry for him, and wish more people would treat this situation with a little more respect.
                    Well, put me on your ignore list too then. I feel sorry for the guy for the illness, but it isnt like a common cold. This fucker was engaged in risky behavior and it caught up with him. So because he was irresponsible, he has risked the health of untold others. The last thing I care about are his feelings at this point. He should be stigmatized, pointed out and ridiculed.

                    So if I hurt your ginger gay feelings~
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                    • xxxjay
                      Tube groupie.
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 13482

                      #130
                      Originally posted by deanberkeley
                      Are you drunk?
                      Yes, I'm drunk -- you fucking faggot.

                      Originally posted by deanberkeley
                      For someone who is representing a company who by all speculation accounts had patient zero on their talent roster, you sure are making some pretty nasty comments about HIV and AIDS.
                      Yep, that's just my sense of humor, and let me emphasize the word HUMOR (See: Sarcasm, irony) - the shit I've said in just in far less homophobic than the comments of that fat lard ass AMA Joe; who should be beaten about the head with a Louisville Slugger, dropped in an alley, burned at the stake, and eaten by rats. I feel bad for the rats though -- that are sure to die from a massive doses of cholesterol while eating his fat bloated carcass!

                      Originally posted by deanberkeley
                      I hope if it was your company that you did indeed show your talent a little more respect than the last sentence that was posted here.
                      I'm actually with Joe on this one. Bi performers have no business in straight porn. Had I known, I would have stopped it. We have 50+ performers on our roster. Keeping track of what they do in their off time is impossible and that is not to mention all of the directors, producers, cameramen, PA's, and everyone else that fucks these guys and girls. AIM does their job and they do it well. If AIM couldn't this situation would be much worse. Again, Kudos to AIM.

                      Originally posted by deanberkeley
                      I understand you are mad and upset about the accusations and the way it was thrown out there about you, but step away from the computer and calm down a bit. I don't think responses like this one will gain you much credibility or respect.
                      No way dood! Speaking my mind on GFY, on the phone, or to your face is exactly how I got "credibility" in this business to start with. In 14 years of webmastering (or whatever you call this stupid job) -- I've never fucked anyone over, stolen anyone's money, or intentionally hurt someone.

                      Ask anyone!

                      Now it is my mission, indeed my life goal, to drag AMA's Joe's FAT ass through the dirt, just like he did mine. There will be no relenting, there will be no apologies, there will just be Joe getting fatter and fatter, until (one day) he is consumed by his own corpulence and have a long overdue stroke.

                      Oh yeah, Joe: Out of every porn chick I've talked to: They all sat you creep them out. Work on it, you fat fuck!

                      PS: GO DIE!

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                      • GatorB
                        The Demon & 12clicks
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 18208

                        #131
                        Originally posted by bossku69
                        you realize there are gay actors who are not gay right? most people try to break into the industry doing this, all while they are married with a family.
                        Hey didn't say anything about anyone being gay. He said if you stick your dick in a dude's ass do not to straight porn.

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                        • charlie g
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 2759

                          #132
                          xxxjay, you're my hero. Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!
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                          • xxxjay
                            Tube groupie.
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 13482

                            #133
                            Originally posted by charlie g
                            xxxjay, you're my hero. Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!
                            Thank you, I'm glad somebody here has a brain!
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                            • madtwin
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 274

                              #134
                              waiting for more drama...

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                              • xxxjay
                                Tube groupie.
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 13482

                                #135
                                Joe, end of the day....you started this thread to destroy my business. So now it has become my mission to destroy you, your business, your body, you finance, and reputation.

                                Just remember who started this.

                                I'm going to bed and expect to wake up to a shitstorm, but a least I will still be svelte and handsome, while you will be seconds from a cholesterol induced stroke.
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