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  • YanksAngel
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    • Dec 2006
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    #101
    My point is that even if it were sarcasm and i figured it was, it was not cool. Why should anyone need to learn your "style' to take offense. I don't think it was funny and though I had the intellect to see it was just your way of sarcasm it showed disrespect. Do you think Canadians or the others found it gave them a chuckle. I don't want to fight I just think you can surely agree it was at least in bad taste. Thats all. Anytime you speak publicly and reference a country and represent one too, others will read your words and they will not know your writing style either. True?

    And hey there Mr. so I am new to posting on the board. I usually only open my mouth when I have something worth saying and well I felt this was worth saying. Now everyone knows I am but a newbie. Shhhhh.

    Did you like what I had to say though other than the last paragraph Phoenix? Did it make sense? I would like a bit of feedback on that if you had some time. Don't stay mad at an Angel ok?
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    • huey
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      • Apr 2003
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      #102
      All empires must fall.
      opinions are like assholes.................


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      • Paul
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        • Nov 2002
        • 2637

        #103
        Originally posted by AaronM
        Exactly.

        All it takes to envoke Martial Law is a pandemic of some sort and the Bush administration has been preping us for such a thing. First Sars, then Bird Flu.......
        I must say that I'm rather speptical about the threat of Bird Flu and the promotion of the vaccine Tamiflu once I found out about how much Donald Rumsfeld has invested in the company and his links to the company.

        Originally posted by Probono
        In the past the US was a place a single blue collar worker could afford a high quality life style for his family, now it takes two earners and it's often difficult for them; it will get much worse. If China allows it's currency to float Walmart will not be a bargin anymore and you might be ssurprised how fast thet will effect inflation and consumer prices.
        Interesting Britain is currently going through a lot of similar changes.

        Originally posted by YanksAngel
        You know what I am saying is true. Our nation was powerful in the past because we lived in a time where honor was everything to a man. To be without honor in the society would mean he was not worth anything at all. Today we have liars and cheaters and thieves and gangs all doing things to hurt others right in front of our very eyes and what do we do? We look the other way. We are in a bad way because of who we are inside and what we do or don't even know we believe in.

        God help us to remember to stand up for what is right and wrong and give us the courage to shout it from our own very rooftops... Before it is too late to save us. It all starts with you.... each of you. I know this sounds so simplified and like nothing to do with all of this but IMO it is the core of this . It is how we got here and why we are not able to snap out of it.

        Two more things to point out briefly... We have a President that can't keep his dick in his pants long enough to protect the reputation of a nation during his term and then bold faced lies about it and we do nothing. What did that teach our youth about right and wrong? It taught them that they can get away with anything as long as you know the right people or can reason it away. Not standing up and punishing the wrong doers.
        Nice post! I totally agree

        Originally posted by campimp
        america is not going anywhere anytime soon...

        but i give the world about 5 years before they start to realize the american dollar isnt even worth the paper it is printed on. once the world stops demanding dollars and the dollar collapses americans are fucked, but then again maybe it will just be time to nuke a couple countries and get back on top again
        Surely the dollar can only slide so far before every country in the world has to change their reserve currency to some other currency (of more value) IF that was to take place then I'd say that would be the final straw.

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        • Michaelious
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          • Jan 2004
          • 6720

          #104
          It will probably last another 25 years the way it is.

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          • YanksAngel
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            • Dec 2006
            • 134

            #105
            Originally posted by Coatsy
            I must say that I'm rather speptical about the threat of Bird Flu and the promotion of the vaccine Tamiflu once I found out about how much Donald Rumsfeld has invested in the company and his links to the company.
            can you elaborate more on this topic I am very interested in hearing it. Ty
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            • Splum
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              • May 2003
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              #106
              Originally posted by Coatsy
              I must say that I'm rather speptical about the threat of Bird Flu and the promotion of the vaccine Tamiflu once I found out about how much Donald Rumsfeld has invested in the company and his links to the company.
              I own stock in Gilead too, does that make me part of the NWO?

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              • Splum
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                • May 2003
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                #107
                Originally posted by YanksAngel
                can you elaborate more on this topic I am very interested in hearing it. Ty
                I find your choice of program name EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE. When are you going to open NiggaCash? Or perhaps GookCash? Fuck off you fucking anti-American fuck.

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                • SugarTaTa
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                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5

                  #108
                  Originally posted by AaronM
                  What I mean by that is.....

                  History repeats itself and "World Power" has been known to shift time and time again.

                  IMHO, the U.S. is being flushed straight down the shitter...Has been for a long time but especially now. I'm not sure if America will be remain "a super power" after facing another revolutionary war or if another country will dominate us but either way....We are in for some major changes.

                  I will honestly be surprised if the U.S. remains in tact long enough to see another President.....And I have predictions on how that could play out as well.

                  No matter how you look at it.....We're fucked and as much as I hate to say it.....Rightly so after the way we treat other countries.

                  Your thoughts?
                  Our country will survive. It may not be something pretty, but we will survive. There is no other real super power at this point. We've networked enough to make friends... we're still the "land of opportunity".

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                  • Paul
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                    • Nov 2002
                    • 2637

                    #109
                    Originally posted by YanksAngel
                    can you elaborate more on this topic I am very interested in hearing it.
                    There is a lot of information about his ties with Tamiflu, here is a good link

                    http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/31/news...tune_rumsfeld/

                    Plenty more if you do a few searches on google

                    Rumsfeld served as Gilead (Research)'s chairman from 1997 until he joined the Bush administration in 2001, and he still holds a Gilead stake valued at between $5 million and $25 million, according to federal financial disclosures filed by Rumsfeld.

                    The forms don't reveal the exact number of shares Rumsfeld owns, but in the past six months fears of a pandemic and the ensuing scramble for Tamiflu have sent Gilead's stock from $35 to $47. That's made the Pentagon chief, already one of the wealthiest members of the Bush cabinet, at least $1 million richer.

                    Rumsfeld isn't the only political heavyweight benefiting from demand for Tamiflu, which is manufactured and marketed by Swiss pharma giant Roche. (Gilead receives a royalty from Roche equaling about 10% of sales.) Former Secretary of State George Shultz, who is on Gilead's board, has sold more than $7 million worth of Gilead since the beginning of 2005.

                    Another board member is the wife of former California Gov. Pete Wilson.

                    "I don't know of any biotech company that's so politically well-connected," says analyst Andrew McDonald of Think Equity Partners in San Francisco.

                    What's more, the federal government is emerging as one of the world's biggest customers for Tamiflu. In July, the Pentagon ordered $58 million worth of the treatment for U.S. troops around the world, and Congress is considering a multi-billion dollar purchase. Roche expects 2005 sales for Tamiflu to be about $1 billion, compared with $258 million in 2004.

                    Rumsfeld recused himself from any decisions involving Gilead when he left Gilead and became Secretary of Defense in early 2001. And late last month, notes a senior Pentagon official, Rumsfeld went even further and had the Pentagon's general counsel issue additional instructions outlining what he could and could not be involved in if there were an avian flu pandemic and the Pentagon had to respond.

                    As the flu issue heated up early this year, according to the Pentagon official, Rumsfeld considered unloading his entire Gilead stake and sought the advice of the Department of Justice, the SEC and the federal Office of Government Ethics.

                    Those agencies didn't offer an opinion so Rumsfeld consulted a private securities lawyer, who advised him that it was safer to hold on to the stock and be quite public about his recusal rather than sell and run the risk of being accused of trading on insider information, something Rumsfeld doesn't believe he possesses. So he's keeping his shares for the time being.
                    Obviously this doesn't prove anything but imo it's one of those things that makes ya go, hmmmmmm.

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                    • Bryan G
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                      • Aug 2005
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                      #110
                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by YanksAngel
                      can you elaborate more on this topic I am very interested in hearing it. Ty


                      Originally posted by Splum
                      I find your choice of program name EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE. When are you going to open NiggaCash? Or perhaps GookCash? Fuck off you fucking anti-American fuck.

                      Another fantastic post by splum
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                      • profiteer
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                        • Apr 2007
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                        #111
                        historically all other top civilizations have fallen, so it's just a matter of time!

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                        • RyuLion
                          • Mar 2003
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                          #112
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                          • _Richard_
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                            • Oct 2006
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                            #113
                            Originally posted by AaronM
                            Canada isn't a real country in the first place.

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                            considering the topic of the thread, i think your post is rather funny

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                            • ADL Colin
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                              • Feb 2001
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                              #114
                              As far as the Roman Empire, the eastern half of the empire lasted until about the 15th century as the Byzantine Empire. Rome had been a Republic for 450 years or so before becoming an empire. This is a total span of almost 2000 years. So I don't think the observation that "all empires eventually come to an end" is very enlightening other than to point out just that. This is without even getting into the debate as to what an empire is and whether the US is one.

                              Here's my stab at it:
                              50-100 more years as #1 world power.
                              300 more years as a Republic


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                              • seeric
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                                #115
                                China

                                North Korea

                                Russia

                                Iran

                                USA

                                many others




                                action 1 will cause equal and opposite chain reaction. bye bye cruel world.

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                                • headless ghost
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                                  • May 2005
                                  • 893

                                  #116
                                  all the way to the end
                                  I am positive

                                  just like when an engine quits in a plane
                                  so how long will this one lone engine last
                                  all the way to the seen of the crash

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                                  • he-fox
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                                    • Jun 2006
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                                    #117
                                    US will last until they will merge with EU and form some kind of North Atlantic Union. Give it 50-100 years.

                                    edit: in fact it will last after that, too, as values and people. Just in a superior governmental form.
                                    Last edited by he-fox; 04-20-2007, 12:48 PM.

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                                    • Danny_C
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                                      • Feb 2002
                                      • 2160

                                      #118
                                      The sole world power will soon be the WTO.

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                                      • Morgan Sommer
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                                        • May 2003
                                        • 186

                                        #119
                                        Collapse of Empire

                                        Originally posted by WarChild
                                        That's a pretty apt analogy, actually. The Roman Empire collapsed on it's self from internal problems and plunged the World in to the Dark Ages. Many even blame the introduction of Christianity for the decline of the Empire.

                                        Many economies are either indirectly or directly linked to the US economy. A complete failure of the US would have devestating affects World wide.
                                        Aside from debt, military disorganization, and chronic civil war the roman empire could have lasted another several hundred years. The thing that knocked it on its ass and allowed the neighboring cultures (barbarians) to take of was massive depopulation due to the first major outbreak of bubonic plague in europe, asia minor, and north africa. In some roman provinces 1/3 to 1/2 of the population died. The emperor of the eastern empire almost died.

                                        so that being said, yeah we have lots of screwy economic and political issues to deal with, and packs of angry humans nipping at our heels, but I think the institutions here are strong enough to withstand almost anything except a series of severe natural disasters or a new pandemic.

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                                        • Morgan Sommer
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                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by ADL Colin
                                          As far as the Roman Empire, the eastern half of the empire lasted until about the 15th century as the Byzantine Empire. Rome had been a Republic for 450 years or so before becoming an empire. This is a total span of almost 2000 years. So I don't think the observation that "all empires eventually come to an end" is very enlightening other than to point out just that. This is without even getting into the debate as to what an empire is and whether the US is one.

                                          Here's my stab at it:
                                          50-100 more years as #1 world power.
                                          300 more years as a Republic
                                          Soo right. The Byzantine emperor Justinian who built Haiga Sophia is the one who almost died of plague. But the greatest architectural achievement of his age was built while the western empire was falling apart and for another 1200 years the empire flourished. But the old britain to arabia empire was gone. So what that means is a culture can survive a very long time regardless of borders shifting and the locus of power.
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                                          • 2012
                                            So Fucking What
                                            • Jul 2006
                                            • 17189

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by A1R3K
                                            China

                                            North Korea

                                            Russia

                                            Iran

                                            USA

                                            many others




                                            action 1 will cause equal and opposite chain reaction. bye bye cruel world.
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                                            • scottybuzz
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                                              • May 2006
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                                              #122
                                              Im sure it will happen but it probably will happen way after everyone here on gfy is dead.
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                                              • KustomKowgurl
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                                                • Sep 2006
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                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by AaronM
                                                What I mean by that is.....

                                                History repeats itself and "World Power" has been known to shift time and time again.
                                                I will honestly be surprised if the U.S. remains in tact long enough to see another President.....And I have predictions on how that could play out as well.
                                                Your thoughts?
                                                Hmmm...definitely an interesting theory. We probably won't be "the most powerful nation in the world" forever...but I don't think we'll be out of the running before we get a new president. I think it's a gradual process, it'll take a bit longer than that.



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                                                • Hot Mama Janet
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                                                  • Apr 2007
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                                                  #124
                                                  The United States of America will out last any other country that is not a super Biblical power!

                                                  Let me ask you somethin?

                                                  What is your countries biblical animal?

                                                  I know there are a few and mine is the "Eagle" the bald eagle as a matter of fact and it is on a vicious comeback as a species..

                                                  If your country has a biblical animal then great if not oh well sucks to be you.

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                                                  • seven
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                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                    • 2697

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                    come on guys..long live usa...lets invade iran and syria...take their oil and shit...its all good man.
                                                    then we can invade canada and take their water and electric plants

                                                    those canadians are lucky to be next to us anyway
                                                    absolutely
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                                                    • seven
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                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                      • 2697

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by YanksAngel
                                                      bla.. bla.. bla..
                                                      You are just a terrorist sympathizer that's all

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                                                      • Hot Mama Janet
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                                                        • Apr 2007
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                                                        #127
                                                        Im from the U.S.A. and as long as I can remember Canada was not even a county it nothing more than a region,a district,a place of refuge for draft evaders,thats it...

                                                        They have no military and even less government its sad that they are next to U.S. we should just let them suffocate in their own self pitty.

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                                                        • seven
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                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                          • 2697

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by YanksAngel
                                                          My point is that even if it were sarcasm and i figured it was, it was blahblah and more blah
                                                          You are just a liberal pussy terrorist sympathizer.

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                                                          • seven
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                                                            • Apr 2002
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                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by Hot Mama Janet
                                                            Im from the U.S.A. and as long as I can remember Canada was not even a county it nothing more than a region,a district,a place of refuge for draft evaders,thats it...

                                                            They have no military and even less government its sad that they are next to U.S. we should just let them suffocate in their own self pitty.
                                                            Go Mama! We don't care that Canada ranks one of the top countries for living and shit in the world, we don't care if they work as peace keepers around the world, we don't care they won their independence without a single drop of blood, we don't care Canada is the number 1 supplier for oil to the USA. We say Canada exists cos we let them, fuck with us and we invade and take your oil in the name of liberation too
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                                                            • 69pornlinks
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                                                              • Mar 2003
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                                                              #130
                                                              i give it 10 years top...the dollar is about to bottom out...if we're here in 15 years i will be shocked....real shit
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                                                              • Splum
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                                                                • May 2003
                                                                • 6195

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by 69pornlinks
                                                                i give it 10 years top...the dollar is about to bottom out...if we're here in 15 years i will be shocked....real shit
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                                                                • jesse_adultdatingdollars
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                                                                  • Apr 2006
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                                                                  #132
                                                                  Are you kidding? LOL Get over it people, America will be in power for a VERY long time to come.
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                                                                  • Webby
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                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 14956

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by 69pornlinks
                                                                    i give it 10 years top...the dollar is about to bottom out...if we're here in 15 years i will be shocked....real shit
                                                                    Don't think it's that bad.... tho agree in 10 years it will be a different scenario and the dollar on currency markets will be a lot lower.
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                                                                    • wmbrett
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                                                                      • Mar 2007
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                                                                      #134
                                                                      It's really hard to say now. I do know that most Americans have become lazy, and not really wanting to work--or making excuses to miss work. I think that it could probably be in the next 20 years. Who knows. I do know this, I've seen a big change in everything over the past 10 years.

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                                                                      • JaneB

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by jesse_adultdatingdollars
                                                                        Are you kidding? LOL Get over it people, America will be in power for a VERY long time to come.
                                                                        Yes I have to agree. The US is not going anywhere. We have to learn from our mistakes and move on. Yes we have made enemies, but we have more friends then enemies. The only way we will go out is if we take out a lot of other countries with us. I believe the person that posted all the pressing of the red buttons is right. That is something I hope it nevers comes down to.

                                                                        FYI Most Americans are not lazy. Most work their ass off, so I am not sure where that came from.

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                                                                        • jcj
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                                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                                          • 115

                                                                          #136
                                                                          In my opinion america will stay its power for a longer time, but not forever!!!!!

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                                                                          • YanksAngel
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                                                                            • Dec 2006
                                                                            • 134

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by Splum
                                                                            I find your choice of program name EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE. When are you going to open NiggaCash? Or perhaps GookCash? Fuck off you fucking anti-American fuck.

                                                                            I do enjoy when people open their mouths and insert their ass. Yanks Angel works for Yankscash. Yanks cash is the American Dream. We are known as Yankees in England. Americans are Yankees and you do yank don't you? haha.. oh that was funny. Not the sharpest tool in the shed now are you?

                                                                            Besides I think the other name ideas have already been taken!
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