Enough with the bashing. Make it clear how you feel.

With that being said, I don't hate the government and think the system can work well if run properly with an agenda that would bring stability back to our country. Which in return could bring more stability to other countries as well. Being someone who is currently residing outside the country, I miss it so very much. Bottomline: 20 million illegal immigrants can't be wrong.

you forgot the following option "I only hate idiots like Splum and (sometimes) stickyfingerz".

I want to vote for this one.

Excuse me.. you are talking about the most despised leadership in the western world and thinking they can bring stability to other countries???? DUH???

They are unqualified to boil an egg, can't even manage their own affairs and look after their own citizens.

They are also the source of instability in other countries - including decades of abuse and torture. Did you major in history???

I love everything about the united states.

FYI, i'm not a flamer so chill out a bit. please read post again more carefully.

I said the government, not the current administration, running smoothly could be beneficial. The sinking of the dollar is a perfect example of how things NOT running smoothly, can hurt others. Look beyond your own borders if you are not effected by the diminishing dollar.

The system of a democratic republic isn't a failure because of privatization of the govt, corruption, and moronic leaders that may have occurred over the past several decades. Allow me to quote myself, "What also distresses me is the complacent/ignorant attitudes" - Bdiddy. Which is the system which allows said corruption, etc to thrive.

As a matter of fact I did and I have told you that before. Please cite instances (not flaming) and will agree if you're correct.

However, when you have studied history as I have, you would KNOW that there are very few civilizations (dead or alive) whose hands are clean in that regard.

Webby, I just love to see you spew your hate. This tells me you are truly a miserable person and I take delight in reading your pain and you venting here
as nothing more then a troll.

Also, what country are you from? Are you embarrassed to tell us?

Just as I thought.. coward.

What part of Europe? I am a proud American.

What part of Europe? I am a proud American.

What does it matter? Just curious. The value of views on the US somehow is depending whether he's from the UK or Bulgaria?

I?ve been to many European countries and I am trying best to understand his views.

TeenGodFather, you speak any swedish?

Webby answer my question.

Not really no. I do understand something, and could probably manage myself there. But I can't speak swedish like I do english. Even though it's mandatory in school, everyone hates swedish (probably because it is mandatory). Like 2% of Finland is swedish, yet we have to learn 2 languages. Gay.

That's what I thought. You're a coward.

Jesus H Christ let me help you out of this one:

1 GBP = 2 USD.

Now, go google GBP and bingo!

Sheesh.. thanks for that he-fox - we'd be hear all night and scouring the globe to find a country in Europe

He's not from England.

my pleasure, sir.

Fair enough Bdiddy - my tolerance level of human waste is nada hence the response.
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There is plenty documentation covering this subject - and this is only based on the South American region alone - we could go global, but pointless. You don't have to agree if it is correct or not - it's a fact of life and commonly known, but maybe not too popular on CNN USA or FOX.

My little troll you will need to find attention elsewhere.

I agree 100%, and thanks for the response.

Organizations like the CIA and the NSA have become and do carry very dirty little secrets and are puppets of the people in power. By that I mean the REAL people in power.

Believe me when I say that I wish things like this didn't happen. Unfortunately these organizations operate with no checks and balances. The founding fathers are really spinning in their graves at that notion.

well, he now "cultivates his garden"

Funny, I know a guy just like that here in Manila

You are a terrorist sympathizer huh?

And Im sure what you voted too... lol

Ive about had it with the America bashing this week. Lets lay it out. Make it clear. Do you hate us? Do you hate our government? Do you hate our morals? Do you hate everything about us?

This is a public poll. If you dont vote and continue to make stupid fucking threads about things that go on in our country, you will show yourself as a coward.

In fact post exactly what you feel about us in this thread. Bring it out in the open. Ive just about had it this week.

And come in and whine about "its not a fair question" or "bullshit poll" Say how you fucking feel.

I am guessing because the terrorists come over here and blow things up. When that happens that makes it the business of the US. Had they stayed over there and left us alone, we would not care what they were doing.

dude, you are killing me. really. i'm laughing so loud here that i'm afraid my neighbours think i finally went insane.



ok, whereever you found that crap - it just disqualified you from this discussion



sorry, i can't stop laughing here





unbelievable




ok, i'm done for today - gotta watch LOTR, have a nice czech beer and do some business

have fun


















sorry, i couldn't resist:

Jesus H Christ let me help you out of this one:

1 GBP = 2 USD.

Now, go google GBP and bingo!

This seems to be the page Sticky got all the info on Germany from:

http://www.germarrudolf.com/civil/civil.html

* What kind of a country is it where a considerable part of the people think, singing their national anthem could be forbidden?
* What country is it where folksingers might be put in jail for singing peaceful songs?
* What kind of a country is it where a mother of five gets a prison term for having sold one CD with peaceful music on it?
* What country is it where a pastor raising his national flag in his church would get kicked out of his parish for being an extremist?
* What country is it where somebody raising his country's flag would be harassed by his neighbors for being an extremist?
* What country is it where a teacher suggesting that all students should sing the national anthem first thing every morning would lose his job for being an extremist?
* What country is it where showing uncompromised flags of its past is considered a threat to "public peace"?
* What country is it where people can get fined for raising an arm to wave their hands at a person?
* What country is it where people can be fined for collecting and displaying full-scale models of historical weapons?
* What country is it where one can be fined or sent to jail for showing symbols and insignia that have been, and still are, used in many cultures for centuries and millennia?
* What country is it where a professor who writes his disbelief about certain historical events in a footnote, written in Latin, in a scholarly anthology can be prosecuted and threatened with jail?
* What country is it where a judge, writing a well-founded, but highly controversial book on historical topics, sees his book confiscated and burned, his pension cut, and his PhD title withdrawn as a result of this?
* What country is it where a highly renowned historian writing a well-founded book of his country's history can be threatened with prosecution because what he found out is not liked by the authorities?
* What country is it where a history teacher is sent to jail for uttering historical dissent in a private letter to a high-profile personality?
* What country is it where a professor criticizing internationalism can be kicked out of his job, harassed, prosecuted and driven into suicide?
* What country is it that sends a historical dissenter to prison for more than two years just because he published peaceful, scholarly historical material?
* What country is it that denigrates, defames and humiliates its war veterans to such a degree that finally one of them burns himself publicly in protest against what he calls a "Niagara flood of lies" against his generation?
* What country is it that outlaws the commemoration of such a self-sacrifices and punishes everybody who dares to publish this man's last appeal?
* What country is it where well-founded, heavily footnoted books on political and historical topics, authored by academics with plenty of credentials, can be confiscated and burned by the authorities?
* What country is it where authors, editors, publishers, printers, wholesalers, retailers, importers and exporters, warehouses, and customers buying more than two copies of a certain medium can be prosecuted for producing, stocking, importing/exporting, distributing dissenting political and historical literature?
* What country is it that hides from its citizens, which media are outlawed, so that one cannot possibly know whether or not one commits a crime when distributing such media?
* What country is it where judges are threatened with prosecution because they did not punish political and historical dissenters harshly enough?
* What country is it that outlaws the introduction of exonerating evidence?
* What country is it that prosecutes defense lawyers if they try to introduce exonerating evidence on behalf of their clients?
* What country is it that does not keep records of what is said and is happening during trial proceedings?
* What country is it that has institutions designed to conduct political trials?
* What country is it that has a huge spy agency designed to snoop on opposition groups?
* What country is it where members of certain political opposition groups considered constitutional can nevertheless be deprived of some of their civil rights?
* What country is it that, according to experts, will be a totalitarian state very soon, if things keep developing as they did so far?
* What country is it where even the mainstream media admit that this country is in a state of hysteria while persecuting political dissidents?
* What country is it where the head of state asks for children to spy on their parents and parents to spy on their children to make sure they do not harbor unwanted political views?
* What country is it where authorities and the public declare publicly to fight everything that is deemed to be politically on the right?
* What country is it where the authorities declare that half of their population deserves to be ostracized for harboring political views?
* What country is it that is proud of conducting more than 10,000 criminal prosecutions against persons for having committed peaceful "thought crimes"?
* What is the country in the world with the second harshest censorship after China?

What country would that be???

The correct answer is:

Germany

This seems to be the page Sticky got all the info on Germany from:

http://www.germarrudolf.com/civil/civil.html

I DID go straight up to 12clicks in Phoenix, who's twice my size btw, and told it just as I did when we "Debated" elsewhere. It was one of the better talks I've had with someone from this industry. Too short though.

no, you kinda meandered your way over to me.

anthony - that guy is a nazi - he's even in prison because of that. taking him as a source for anything is like considering the Jerry Springer show as a trustworthy news source

and it's the first verse of the german anthem that isn't used - cause it claims germanys borders to be somewhere which is nowadays poland.

and it's the first verse of the german anthem that isn't used - cause it claims germanys borders to be somewhere which is nowadays poland.

Actually that would be somewhere which is nowadays Lithuania



The Germans call the place Memel, the people living there now call it Klaipėda.