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PayPal wants to send out your affiliate payments

10-05-2010, 04:40 PM

I asked them, was specific about it being for adult webmaster commission payments.... check out the last line in the email

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Thank you for contacting PayPal.

Yes, you can use PayPal to send funds to your affiliates.

Business and Premier account members can send up to 5,000 simultaneous
payments to individuals using their email address. You can create, send,
and track all of your payments using the Mass Payment feature.

You start by creating a tab or comma delimited file or spreadsheet that
contains your recipient?s email address, payment amount, and currency
code. Next, you fund your PayPal account with the total amount of the
Mass Payment, plus fees in the currencies you are sending. Each currency
will need to have its own file. After you upload your file to your
PayPal account, you can review and edit your file or add a personal note
to each recipient before sending it.

Within minutes of sending your file, we?ll send you an email
notification that the process is complete. We?ll also notify your
recipients that have money. PayPal recipients receive their money
directly into their account. Recipients without a PayPal account can get
their money by clicking the link in their email and following the
instructions.

Here?s how to send a Mass Payment:

1. Log in to your PayPal account.
2. Click ?Send Money.?
3. Click ?Make a Mass Payment.?
4. Select your method of identifying your recipients under ?My
payment recipients are identified by:? and click ?Upload? on the ?Mass
Payment? page.
5. Click ?Review.?
6. Click ?Send Money.?

To see what countries can receive payment from PayPal, go to
www.paypal.com, click ?Send Money,? and then click ?Transfer Money
Internationally.?

Note:

* You can pay recipients in 22 major currencies.
* Online payments are instant.
* There is no fee for the recipient, but there is a small
transaction fee for the sender.
* An insufficient PayPal account will cause a Mass Payment to fail.
* You cannot use a debit or credit card to fund a Mass Payment.
* Unclaimed money is returned to your account after 30 days.
* Individual payments cannot exceed $10,000.00 USD.

I am glad to have resolved your concern today. Please tell your friends
about PayPal.
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10-05-2010, 04:41 PM

Interesante.

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10-05-2010, 04:42 PM

Yeah, I'd double check that with someone over the phone, someone other than a customer service rep.

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10-05-2010, 04:44 PM

double and triple check.
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10-05-2010, 04:44 PM

I think affiliate payout is a LOT different to having a paypal payment on a porn site.

Would be cool if affiliate was fine.

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10-05-2010, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by rewn

I think affiliate payout is a LOT different to having a paypal payment on a porn site.

Would be cool if affiliate was fine.

according to the person who responded to me... they are very cool about it and want me to tell my friends....so here I am LOL
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10-05-2010, 04:46 PM

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10-05-2010, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by spazlabz

according to the person who responded to me... they are very cool about it and want me to tell my friends....so here I am LOL

They'll wait til you and your friends load their accounts to pay affiliates and then POW right in the kisser...POW right in the kisser...POW right in the kisser...POW right in th...wait, I'm not done yet, POW right in the kisser...POW right in the kisser....

But seriously, sounds dangerous. I sometimes get antsy even taking money for adult domains in PP.

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10-05-2010, 04:47 PM

lol @ tell your smut peddling friends.
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10-05-2010, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by Nicky

quad check.

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10-05-2010, 04:48 PM

I have been suggesting this for a while. You can't sell porn with PP, but many sponsors are already using Paypal as an option.
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10-05-2010, 04:50 PM

Wow great. Now I guess I can forget the rest.
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10-05-2010, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by baddog

I have been suggesting this for a while. You can't sell porn with PP, but many sponsors are already using Paypal as an option.

Selling porn with PP and paying aff. with PP are two different things.
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10-05-2010, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by PornMD

They'll wait til you and your friends load their accounts to pay affiliates and then POW right in the kisser...POW right in the kisser...POW right in the kisser...POW right in th...wait, I'm not done yet, POW right in the kisser...POW right in the kisser....

But seriously, sounds dangerous. I sometimes get antsy even taking money for adult domains in PP.

I will not be recommending that we add PayPal as a payment option, they are too inflexible and freeze accounts to fast and for 6 months. I wanted to check because there was so much speculation about PayPal in other threads... that is their answer any way
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10-05-2010, 04:51 PM

I'm still highly skeptical of getting a real answer from a Paypay service rep that addresses your question. They're like trained seals who will give you a copy and paste answer from a list.

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10-05-2010, 04:54 PM

I have been paid through paypal for years by some sponsors, no bigger amounts though. If you set It up right It should work.

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10-05-2010, 05:02 PM

Thats just a standard copy paste answer from a worker that probably doesn't understand. Would love to hear something official from higher up at PP, but I can't see ebay involving themselves with porn.

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10-05-2010, 05:06 PM

I remember way back when people would complain frequently on here about having Paypal freezing their accounts without warning.

I agree, that is a standard email. On many levels, I would enjoy being able to tell people we pay via PayPal but it would have to be a lot more clear than that.
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10-05-2010, 05:06 PM

probably ask them to escalate the ticket, so someone higher can take a look at it..

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10-05-2010, 05:06 PM

And as soon as one of those sponsors sends to an email that Paypal deems as adult - Boom! Account frozen.

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10-05-2010, 05:12 PM

Paypal and their relatively "new" vp have been very "fuzzy" about the porn industry....

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10-05-2010, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by NaughtyRob

And as soon as one of those sponsors sends to an email that Paypal deems as adult - Boom! Account frozen.

Exactly
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10-05-2010, 05:40 PM

spazlabz: I'm highly skepitcal too. Can you paste a copy of your original email to Paypal? I talked to a customer service rep about a month ago, and their response was an unequivocal "No".

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10-05-2010, 06:03 PM

I think it could workout but..they should get a Adult Industry specialty Staff to handle us..

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10-05-2010, 06:06 PM

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10-05-2010, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by tabasco

Thats just a standard copy paste answer from a worker that probably doesn't understand. Would love to hear something official from higher up at PP, but I can't see ebay involving themselves with porn.

^ this. they have so many emails to respond to every day they probably only read the subject line and quickly choose what template to send back.
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10-05-2010, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by spazlabz

according to the person who responded to me... they are very cool about it and want me to tell my friends....so here I am LOL

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10-05-2010, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by ravo

spazlabz: I'm highly skepitcal too. Can you paste a copy of your original email to Paypal? I talked to a customer service rep about a month ago, and their response was an unequivocal "No".

I represent an online adult entertainment company
that has thousands of affiliates. I was wondering if it would be
acceptable use to be able to use PayPal as a way of paying them their
monthly commission payments
The information I am looking
for is very specific. I have thousands of affiliates that make sales to
our adult sites each month. We would like to use PayPal to make payments
to those affiliates who would like to receive their funds in that way.

They are not purchasing anything from us and we are not purchasing
anything from them. Simply paying them for the commissions they earn.
Would this be acceptable use by PayPal. I want to make absolutely
sure that this will not cause funds to be frozen by PayPal in the future
if we use this method as a payment option.'
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10-05-2010, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by Panky

lol! Goob!

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10-05-2010, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by pornmasta

and call their moms to ask again...

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10-05-2010, 06:40 PM

Having dealt with paypal before on issues like this, hell no.

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10-05-2010, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by spazlabz

I represent an online adult entertainment company
that has thousands of affiliates. I was wondering if it would be
acceptable use to be able to use PayPal as a way of paying them their
monthly commission payments
The information I am looking
for is very specific. I have thousands of affiliates that make sales to
our adult sites each month. We would like to use PayPal to make payments
to those affiliates who would like to receive their funds in that way.

They are not purchasing anything from us and we are not purchasing
anything from them. Simply paying them for the commissions they earn.
Would this be acceptable use by PayPal. I want to make absolutely
sure that this will not cause funds to be frozen by PayPal in the future
if we use this method as a payment option.'

I think it's too easy for a customer service rep to either miss seeing or misinterpret "adult entertainment" or "adult sites". You need to say something along the lines of an "online PORN company that operates XXX websites with graphic pictures and videos of NAKED ADULTS having SEX".

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10-05-2010, 06:50 PM

It wasn't too many years ago that PayPal was closing accounts that had ANY connection with porn, be it affiliate payouts or just accepting a payment for someone with suspected porn connections. It'd be interesting if that really has eased up. Certainly though, I wouldn't accept an email from a minimum wage rep as being representative of their current policy.
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10-05-2010, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by InfoGuy

I think it's too easy for a customer service rep to either miss seeing or misinterpret "adult entertainment" or "adult sites". You need to say something along the lines of an "online PORN company that operates XXX websites with graphic pictures and videos of NAKED ADULTS having SEX".

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obscene writings, drawings, photographs, or the like, esp. those having little or no artistic merit.

deep down inside I view what I am involved with (and probably what you do as well) as adult entertainment and not obscene. Anyone is welcomed to write them as well and see if they get a different answer... you very well might. This is the answer I got. There is a form on their page
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10-05-2010, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by spazlabz

I asked them, was specific about it being for adult webmaster commission payments.... check out the last line in the email

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Thank you for contacting PayPal.

Yes, you can use PayPal to send funds to your affiliates.

Business and Premier account members can send up to 5,000 simultaneous
payments to individuals using their email address. You can create, send,
and track all of your payments using the Mass Payment feature.

You start by creating a tab or comma delimited file or spreadsheet that
contains your recipient?s email address, payment amount, and currency
code. Next, you fund your PayPal account with the total amount of the
Mass Payment, plus fees in the currencies you are sending. Each currency
will need to have its own file. After you upload your file to your
PayPal account, you can review and edit your file or add a personal note
to each recipient before sending it.

Within minutes of sending your file, we?ll send you an email
notification that the process is complete. We?ll also notify your
recipients that have money. PayPal recipients receive their money
directly into their account. Recipients without a PayPal account can get
their money by clicking the link in their email and following the
instructions.

Here?s how to send a Mass Payment:

1. Log in to your PayPal account.
2. Click ?Send Money.?
3. Click ?Make a Mass Payment.?
4. Select your method of identifying your recipients under ?My
payment recipients are identified by:? and click ?Upload? on the ?Mass
Payment? page.
5. Click ?Review.?
6. Click ?Send Money.?

To see what countries can receive payment from PayPal, go to
www.paypal.com, click ?Send Money,? and then click ?Transfer Money
Internationally.?

Note:

* You can pay recipients in 22 major currencies.
* Online payments are instant.
* There is no fee for the recipient, but there is a small
transaction fee for the sender.
* An insufficient PayPal account will cause a Mass Payment to fail.
* You cannot use a debit or credit card to fund a Mass Payment.
* Unclaimed money is returned to your account after 30 days.
* Individual payments cannot exceed $10,000.00 USD.

I am glad to have resolved your concern today. Please tell your friends
about PayPal.
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Are you kidding? That statement doesn't mean shit. That answer was just a template coded response, most likely issued by some third world outsourced employee living in the Philippines.

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10-05-2010, 07:05 PM

Perhaps PayPal has changed their stance. I don't know what the big deal is, really. Tons of Fortune 500 companies are involved in adult. Hilton, Comcast, Cox (heh), and the list goes on.
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10-05-2010, 07:08 PM

Don't use paypal. Pick something adult friendly.

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10-05-2010, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by spazlabz

I will not be recommending that we add PayPal as a payment option, they are too inflexible and freeze accounts to fast and for 6 months. I wanted to check because there was so much speculation about PayPal in other threads... that is their answer any way

As long as you are not doing anything shady with PayPal I would assume you shouldn't get your account frozen. I would not trust getting huge sums of money in there if I lived overseas and just wanted to use there card. I live in the US and can transfer money out of there pretty easily in a few days. So I wouldn't mind using it to get some payments. It is easier then waiting for checks and going to put them in the banks.
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10-05-2010, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by SomeCreep

Are you kidding? That statement doesn't mean shit. That answer was just a template coded response, most likely issued by some third world outsourced employee living in the Philippines.

No, I am not kidding at all. Basically a lot of people were debating the whats and ifs concerning using PayPal, I just said fuck it and sent them the question and provided the answer for general consumption. That's it. I am not recommending them to anyone or promoting their use, simply transferring the information provided

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10-05-2010, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by PornMD

They'll wait til you and your friends load their accounts to pay affiliates and then POW right in the kisser...POW right in the kisser...POW right in the kisser...POW right in th...wait, I'm not done yet, POW right in the kisser...POW right in the kisser....

But seriously, sounds dangerous. I sometimes get antsy even taking money for adult domains in PP.

Usually with paypal, it's more like "POW right in the butthole"

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10-05-2010, 09:14 PM

Look monkeys, you have ALWAYS been able to pay affiliates and shit with paypal. You can't sell adult sites and most adult services with paypal, b2b payments have always been fucking OK.

Are you all really in this business this fucking long without knowing the basic shit?

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10-05-2010, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by stocktrader23

Look monkeys, you have ALWAYS been able to pay affiliates and shit with paypal. You can't sell adult sites and most adult services with paypal, b2b payments have always been fucking OK.

Are you all really in this business this fucking long without knowing the basic shit?

I hear what you are saying and have actually done it myself..............

HOWEVER, PP deleted one of my accounts simply because the email
was on an adult domain. I never even received any adult payments to that account.

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10-05-2010, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

I hear what you are saying and have actually done it myself..............

HOWEVER, PP deleted one of my accounts simply because the email
was on an adult domain. I never even received any adult payments to that account.

Yes, they don't want porn in the domain. You and I figured this out, what, 8 years ago? lol

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10-05-2010, 11:19 PM

It's a good option but you need to be a little careful

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10-05-2010, 11:24 PM

My understanding of paypal, is they dont want to process payments for porn sites becuase of the high charge back rate.

Check with them, i have asked them before about accepting payments from adult web masters for a link directory and they said it was fine.

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10-05-2010, 11:26 PM

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10-05-2010, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by stocktrader23

Look monkeys, you have ALWAYS been able to pay affiliates and shit with paypal. You can't sell adult sites and most adult services with paypal, b2b payments have always been fucking OK.

Are you all really in this business this fucking long without knowing the basic shit?

You just transfer money.
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10-06-2010, 03:13 AM

It's a standard reply from their list

#73 Affiliate payments question

And your question to them wasn't specific enough at all, 'online adult entertainment company' translated into tamil probably doesn't come out as 'porn'

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10-06-2010, 04:17 AM

Originally posted by PornMD

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10-06-2010, 04:26 AM

They probably want to take a part of cake, why not, what is wrong paying affs via paypal.

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