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  • DOCTOR 30
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    • Aug 2006
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    #1

    Scientists: Chimps More Evolved Than Humans

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/...an-humans.html


    Isn't this how 'Planet of the Apes' started?
  • ADL Colin
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    • Feb 2001
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    #2
    Originally posted by DOCTOR 30
    Isn't this how 'Planet of the Apes' started?
    "NO!"





















    (Hopefully someone gets that)


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    • D
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      #3
      This explains much.
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      • ADL Colin
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        • Feb 2001
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        #4
        About that "missing" chromosome


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        • corvette
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          • Oct 2001
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          #5
          Originally posted by ADL Colin
          "NO!"




          (Hopefully someone gets that)
          last part, (spoiler)where he falls on his knees when he sees the statue of liberty?
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          • headless ghost
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            #6
            so sitting in a cage at the zoo and throwing your shit at others as they walk by is more developed?

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            • ADL Colin
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              • Feb 2001
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              #7
              Originally posted by corvette
              last part, (spoiler)where he falls on his knees when he sees the statue of liberty?
              Nope. In one of the Planet of the Apes sequels we learn that the first ape to speak a word said "no".


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              • IllTestYourGirls
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                • Feb 2007
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                #8
                Originally posted by headless ghost
                so sitting in a cage at the zoo and throwing your shit at others as they walk by is more developed?
                What is the difference between that and Maury Povich show?

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                • Pumba
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                  • Oct 2006
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                  #9
                  Well, we stoped natural selection by technology and medicine. It is logical they evolved more. Those who were not good died and didn't pass the gens.

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                  • corvette
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                    • Oct 2001
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ADL Colin
                    Nope. In one of the Planet of the Apes sequels we learn that the first ape to speak a word said "no".

                    gotcha, only saw the first one, i was stretching
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                    • _Richard_
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                      • Oct 2006
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                      #11
                      Figures.. chimp apparently have better driving skills than we do etc.. we're looking at the next species we can talk too!

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                      • gornyhuy
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                        • May 2002
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                        #12
                        Get your hands off me, you damn dirty ape!

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                        • notabook
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                          #13
                          They need to splice a chimp with a parrot so they can fly around and attack people with their feces and also squawk and chirp and shit.

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                          • headless ghost
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                            • May 2005
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                            What is the difference between that and Maury Povich show?
                            Povich became a millionaire with his line of bullshit

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                            • DOCTOR 30
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 846

                              #15
                              Originally posted by headless ghost
                              so sitting in a cage at the zoo and throwing your shit at others as they walk by is more developed?
                              Ja, you're right. They could be doing something really evolved like wandering around learning centers with high powered weapons and killing indiscriminantly.
                              Or better yet something really evolved like tossing their fellow chimps into ovens and gas chambers by the millions.

                              Don't get me started on that highly evolved technique of aborting their developing babies because getting pregnant would ruin their figure or become a nuisance.

                              Sheesh.

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                              • shoeaholicanon
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                                • Feb 2007
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                                #16
                                i highly doubt they are more evolved.

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                                • CheneyRumsfeld
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                                  #17
                                  sits in a cage and slings shit?
                                  sounds like a webmaster.

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                                  • Splum
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                                    #18
                                    Kinda throws a wrench in that whole evolution thing.

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                                    • Phoenix
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Splum
                                      Kinda throws a wrench in that whole evolution thing.
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                                      • DOCTOR 30
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by CheneyRumsfeld
                                        sits in a cage and slings shit?
                                        sounds like a webmaster.
                                        Sounds more like a politician.

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                                        • ADL Colin
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                                          • Feb 2001
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by corvette
                                          gotcha, only saw the first one
                                          You didn't miss anything.


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                                          • Jimmy Rock
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                                            #22
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                                            • theruyan
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                                              • Dec 2006
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Splum
                                              Kinda throws a wrench in that whole evolution thing.
                                              Please STFU. You don't know the first thing about evolution. All you have are straw men and BS that you like to spout off about.

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                                              • Splum
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by theruyan
                                                Please STFU. You don't know the first thing about evolution. All you have are straw men and BS that you like to spout off about.
                                                I know that evolution is a theory.

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                                                • theruyan
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                                                  • Dec 2006
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by DOCTOR 30
                                                  http://www.newscientist.com/article/...an-humans.html


                                                  Isn't this how 'Planet of the Apes' started?
                                                  I think it's a common popular thinking error in the USA to believe that "more evolved" means "smarter." Unfortunately, the understanding of evolution and science in general is very poor in the USA, almost the same level as many developing countries in regard to public knowledge about science and evolution.

                                                  "More evolved" just means they've had more genes subjected to natural selection.

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                                                  • D
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Pumba
                                                    Well, we stoped natural selection by technology and medicine. It is logical they evolved more. Those who were not good died and didn't pass the gens.
                                                    Actually, it's the variation that promotes evolution.

                                                    There's typically far less genetic deviation between two random people selected on opposite sides of the world than there'd be between 2 chimps in the same tribe.

                                                    The common reasoning for that is because of multiple genetic bottlenecks in humanity's past via natural disasters that brought us to the edge of extinction and, thus, limited the resulting gene pool that matriculated from the survivors.

                                                    I think if medicine would be said to do anything, it'd be to promote evolution because it'd keep the gene pool even more varied for the next bottleneck by keeping more individuals alive, thus giving our species greater genetic variation.
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                                                    • theruyan
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Splum
                                                      I know that evolution is a theory.

                                                      And so is gravity.

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                                                      • ADL Colin
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                                                        • Feb 2001
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                                                        #28
                                                        The researchers found that 233 chimp genes compared with only 154 human genes (out of 13,888 genes) "has been changed by selection since chimps and humans split from their common ancestor about 6 million years ago".

                                                        What the article doesn't say is that chimps have 24 pairs of chromosomes. Humans only have 23.

                                                        Which is more of a change? The difference in the number of genes or the dropping off an entire independent chromosome?

                                                        Neither change means "more evolved". what does "more evolved" mean? Better suited to its environment?


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                                                        • donkevlar
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                                                          #29
                                                          Ha I just about owned myself there...

                                                          I was gonna say how it would be quite interesting to see what would happen if chimps started talking and we had to accept them into our society.

                                                          Then i JUST about typed something like "hey, they should make a movie about that", completely forgetting about the planet of the apes, which I just read about. Smoking that good shit today...
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                                                          • Nysus
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by theruyan
                                                            And so is gravity.
                                                            I don't know, I threw an apple up and it hasn't come down yet..
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                                                            • D
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ADL Colin
                                                              The researchers found that 233 chimp genes compared with only 154 human genes (out of 13,888 genes) "has been changed by selection since chimps and humans split from their common ancestor about 6 million years ago".

                                                              What the article doesn't say is that chimps have 24 pairs of chromosomes. Humans only have 23.

                                                              Which is more of a change? The difference in the number of genes or the dropping off an entire independent chromosome?

                                                              Neither change means "more evolved". what does "more evolved" mean? Better suited to its environment?
                                                              I think they're defining "more evolved" as "more genetically deviant from the common ancestor"

                                                              I forgot about the extra chromosome. That'd also explain for the 'more evolved' thing because a good deal of the genetic mutations that develop (i.e. "evolution") do so when the chromosomes split during cleavage, if memory serves, giving them another shot that we don't have at developing a mutation every go.

                                                              Since no one knows how many chromosomes the common ancestor had, it's hard to say if we dropped one, or chimps picked one up.

                                                              Regardless, I'm not worried about superchimps too much...
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                                                              • Arista225
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                                                                #32
                                                                This thread makes me laugh.....I used to work with both Rhesus macaques (over 900 of them) and Chimps in Research and I think I'll just leave the majority of my two cents worth out this time other than two interesting facts regarding Chimps:
                                                                When they throw their poop at you they will hit you about 98% of the time their aim is THAT good!!
                                                                You can give a Chimp HIV and they will never become sick from it like humans will.
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                                                                • DOCTOR 30
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Arista225
                                                                  This thread makes me laugh.....I used to work with both Rhesus macaques (over 900 of them) and Chimps in Research and I think I'll just leave the majority of my two cents worth out this time other than two interesting facts regarding Chimps:
                                                                  When they throw their poop at you they will hit you about 98% of the time their aim is THAT good!!
                                                                  You can give a Chimp HIV and they will never become sick from it like humans will.
                                                                  Yeahhhh, but can a chimp write his name in the snow?

                                                                  Hunh?

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                                                                  • RedShoe
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by D
                                                                    Regardless, I'm not worried about superchimps too much...

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                                                                    • Arista225
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by DOCTOR 30
                                                                      Yeahhhh, but can a chimp write his name in the snow?

                                                                      Hunh?
                                                                      Ha Ha......not that I am aware of but the male chimps can react to female humans and will react by masterbating......once again proving that all men are quite simple

                                                                      See what happens when you insist on sucking me into this thread.....I just had to go there and give my two cents worth......lol
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                                                                      • Porn Farmer
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Splum
                                                                        Kinda throws a wrench in that whole evolution thing.
                                                                        Uh, how?

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                                                                          I would not be surprised. I sometimes feel like a monkey, other times as a baboon.
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