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  • VicD
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    • Feb 2005
    • 13245

    #201
    it's a fucked up world...31 killed right now according to CNN

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    • Anthony
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      • Feb 2001
      • 9653

      #202
      Originally posted by scottybuzz
      brazil - 3rd world country.
      God you are dense.

      So now you are correcting your original post of:

      yes but it happens alot more in america than it does anywhere in the world

      BAN GUNS and REDUCE THE PROBLEM.
      To anywhere that is not a 3rd world country.

      You are a habitual idiot who let's their mouths run before letting their brains think.

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      • scardog
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        • Aug 2004
        • 886

        #203
        Originally posted by scottybuzz
        well i am saying it can.
        I'm saying it didn't. How many laws did this guy break to kill dozens of people? So you think a couple of new ones, he would have abided by...nevermind. No need to answer.

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        • zibril
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          • Feb 2007
          • 731

          #204
          Fuckin crazy...

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          • scottybuzz
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            • May 2006
            • 14799

            #205
            Originally posted by Anthony
            I'm over my head? You haven't proven anything yet worthwhile in this thread.

            If that was what you meant, how hard was it to type it out the first time?

            I hate people who make up facts, I hate people who try to back track after it's get pointed out how stupid they are.
            again your not reasoning, your just typing shit out the keyboard makes no sense trying to win argument after argument.

            you arguing here on gfy doesnt solve anything it doesnt bring back any lifes does it?

            I cant believe you people wont admit america has a problem with school shootings and if you can come up with a solution other than banning guns that will stop this problem then go ahead.

            IMO the best solution is to ban guns. My opinion is shared amongst the majority of the european community
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            • DOCTOR 30
              So Fucking Banned
              • Aug 2006
              • 846

              #206
              Originally posted by scardog
              You go ahead and give up your right to own a gun. We here in the states will continue to fight for ours. Our right to own guns is in our constitution, as to limit the power of the federal government, not for hunting. Criminals love unarmed victims. You may live in a place where everyone loves one another. I live in a place where people break into your house and kill you for your stuff.
              Those words should be carved in stone and set up at a monument in Washington D.C.

              They should call the monument: The Reality Stone

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              • scottybuzz
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                • May 2006
                • 14799

                #207
                Originally posted by Anthony
                God you are dense.

                So now you are correcting your original post of:



                To anywhere that is not a 3rd world country.

                You are a habitual idiot who let's their mouths run before letting their brains think.
                yes insult me for posting my opinion.i cant believe after a further attack you still think guns should be allowed

                what will it take, does some whacko have to go through a whole school next time for you too change your mind?!

                i cant believe people are shitting on me here. just look at the figures here! how many attacks in schools were there in the summer? have some fucking reasoning!
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                • scardog
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                  • Aug 2004
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by scottybuzz
                  yes insult me for posting my opinion.i cant believe after a further attack you still think guns should be allowed

                  what will it take, does some whacko have to go through a whole school next time for you too change your mind?!

                  i cant believe people are shitting on me here. just look at the figures here! how many attacks in schools were there in the summer? have some fucking reasoning!

                  One school shooting was all it took to make you so willing to give up your right of self-defense? There could be 100 school shootings, and it wouldn't change our opinion on the ability to defend our lives and the lives of our families. You don't get it, but that is okay, you ain't from here.

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                  • DOCTOR 30
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                    • Aug 2006
                    • 846

                    #209
                    http://www.nbc4.tv/videostream/9476753/detail.html

                    Live NBC coverage

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                    • scottybuzz
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                      • May 2006
                      • 14799

                      #210
                      Originally posted by scardog
                      One school shooting was all it took to make you so willing to give up your right of self-defense? There could be 100 school shootings, and it wouldn't change our opinion on the ability to defend our lives and the lives of our families. You don't get it, but that is okay, you ain't from here.
                      well ok, your ideology may think like that, but I stand firm by my opinion and i respect you for not whacking off at my like athony did.

                      but i stand clear on what should be done.
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                      • Anthony
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                        • Feb 2001
                        • 9653

                        #211
                        Originally posted by VG.Content
                        Actually I said "federal agent" Local police are paid by the state, which to me makes them an agent of the gov.

                        How I worded it should not matter much, everyone getting all huffy puffy and name calling and everything. All I was saying is students cannot carry guns, so the theory of "if a lot of the students had guns this would have ended sooner" idea.

                        Do I hate guns no, do I think they are out of control yes, I think most people would agree there. Should people be allowed to own them, sure thing.
                        When I think you reached the bottom of the stupid barrell, you sink even lower.

                        Local Police are paid by the City, not the State, or the fucking federal goverment.

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                        • Strickie
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                          • Jul 2006
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                          #212
                          sad day
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                          • scottybuzz
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                            • May 2006
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                            #213
                            Originally posted by Anthony
                            When I think you reached the bottom of the stupid barrell, you sink even lower.

                            Local Police are paid by the City, not the State, or the fucking federal goverment.
                            who the fuck cares?! 31 people are dead and your interested at owning people on a board? grow the fuck up.
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                            • »Rob Content«
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                              • Dec 2006
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                              #214
                              Originally posted by Anthony
                              When I think you reached the bottom of the stupid barrell, you sink even lower.

                              Local Police are paid by the City, not the State, or the fucking federal goverment.
                              I don't care where the money is coming from, you changed it from a debate on a topic to trying to make me look silly about how I word who pays the police.

                              Bottom line you're not going to carry a gun in a school unless you are a cop, police officer, work for the gov, are a federal agent, etc etc. A 19 year old student is not going to be carrying a gun, I was actually agreeing with a post you made lol

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                              • Anthony
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                                • Feb 2001
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                                #215
                                Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                who the fuck cares?! 31 people are dead and your interested at owning people on a board? grow the fuck up.
                                This is coming from the guy who thinks 6 prostitutes lives are worth less than 32 college kids. Yeah ok.

                                I'm not in this thread to own anyone, but to stop idiots who spout off "Solutions" thinking they even know what the problem is or the cause.

                                NEWSFLASH

                                THE LAW PROHIBITS FIREARMS ON SCHOOL CAMPUS

                                GUESS WHAT?

                                THAT DIDN'T STOP THIS GUY FROM KILLING 30 KIDS IN VIRGINIA.

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                                • scardog
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                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 886

                                  #216
                                  Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                  well ok, your ideology may think like that, but I stand firm by my opinion and i respect you for not whacking off at my like athony did.

                                  but i stand clear on what should be done.

                                  People that value their right of self-defense get very passionate about this issue. Your ideology exists in our country, and threatens a right that we value, that you obviously don't. People are quick to give up rights that they don't use, without respect for those who do. They banned guns on campus, and it kept all the guns out, except for the guy that didn't care if they were ban or not. The people that respected the banned got shot like fish in a barrel.
                                  Last edited by scardog; 04-16-2007, 11:02 AM.

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                                  • scardog
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                                    • Aug 2004
                                    • 886

                                    #217
                                    Originally posted by VG.Content
                                    I don't care where the money is coming from, you changed it from a debate on a topic to trying to make me look silly about how I word who pays the police.

                                    Bottom line you're not going to carry a gun in a school unless you are a cop, police officer, work for the gov, are a federal agent, etc etc. A 19 year old student is not going to be carrying a gun, I was actually agreeing with a post you made lol

                                    Anthony
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                                    The student won't carry a gun, because it is a felony!

                                    Anthony is actually a real warrior.
                                    Last edited by scardog; 04-16-2007, 11:03 AM.

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                                    • Anthony
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                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 9653

                                      #218
                                      Originally posted by VG.Content
                                      I don't care where the money is coming from, you changed it from a debate on a topic to trying to make me look silly about how I word who pays the police.

                                      Bottom line you're not going to carry a gun in a school unless you are a cop, police officer, work for the gov, are a federal agent, etc etc. A 19 year old student is not going to be carrying a gun, I was actually agreeing with a post you made lol

                                      Anthony
                                      Keyboard Warrior

                                      VG,

                                      Maybe you were, if so, I apologize.

                                      This news has alot of us very emotional at this time.

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                                      • scottybuzz
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                                        • May 2006
                                        • 14799

                                        #219
                                        Originally posted by Anthony
                                        This is coming from the guy who thinks 6 prostitutes lives are worth less than 32 college kids. Yeah ok.

                                        I'm not in this thread to own anyone, but to stop idiots who spout off "Solutions" thinking they even know what the problem is or the cause.

                                        NEWSFLASH

                                        THE LAW PROHIBITS FIREARMS ON SCHOOL CAMPUS

                                        GUESS WHAT?

                                        THAT DIDN'T STOP THIS GUY FROM KILLING 30 KIDS IN VIRGINIA.

                                        your missing my point completely u idiot, we are talking of a college student here. it has become almost a cult to now commit school shootings. you ban guns, that cult has slowed down. thats what happend in the uk. fact.


                                        infact by chance do u happen to be smoking crack?

                                        infact because i want to put my point across like an idiot i shall also write in big letters
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                                        • dynastoned
                                          mmm yeah!
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 5061

                                          #220
                                          Guns are not the issue here.

                                          Raging psychotic lunatics are though.

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                                          • scottybuzz
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                                            • May 2006
                                            • 14799

                                            #221
                                            Originally posted by scardog
                                            People that value their right of self-defense get very passionate about this issue. Your ideology exists in our country, and threatens a right that we value, that you obviously don't. People are quick to give up rights that they don't use, without respect for those who do. They banned guns on campus, and it kept all the guns out, except for the guy that didn't care if they were ban or not. The people that respected the banned got shot like fish in a barrel.
                                            there was also mass protest when england banned guns completley, but it was a complete carpet ban that was needed and that what it got.
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                                            • scottybuzz
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                                              • May 2006
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                                              #222
                                              Originally posted by dynastoned
                                              Guns are not the issue here.

                                              Raging psychotic lunatics are though.
                                              believe it or not, they do exist in other countries
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                                              • Anthony
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                                                • Feb 2001
                                                • 9653

                                                #223
                                                Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                your missing my point completely u idiot, we are talking of a college student here. it has become almost a cult to now commit school shootings. you ban guns, that cult has slowed down. thats what happend in the uk. fact.


                                                infact by chance do u happen to be smoking crack?
                                                YAWN.

                                                You are not an American. You have no idea what it is to be an American. You have no clue how firearms are attached to the Amercian Psyche, how owning one created this Country of ours with force from Britain.

                                                No one will ever BAN guns in the USA.

                                                Your "SOLUTION" holds no water, and is moot.

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                                                • »Rob Content«
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                                                  • Dec 2006
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                                                  #224
                                                  Originally posted by Anthony
                                                  VG,

                                                  Maybe you were, if so, I apologize.

                                                  This news has alot of us very emotional at this time.
                                                  No need man, I am pissed at this news, I am more pissed that right now a lot of people in America are plotting ways to make money off it. The TV movie about it, books, a Michael Moore movie about it, and how every news agency is tossing all kinds of bullshit out there hoping to be the first person to break "the real story"

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                                                  • scardog
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                                                    #225
                                                    Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                    there was also mass protest when england banned guns completley, but it was a complete carpet ban that was needed and that what it got.
                                                    London, England: "Capital gun crime rises by 50 per cent" Last year

                                                    Figures published this week by the Home Office are expected to show that offences involving guns have soared by as much as 50 per cent in some parts of the country. . . .

                                                    In London, a major area of concern is still black-on-black gun crime, despite huge efforts by the Met to combat such violence. According to Operation Trident, the Met's unit combating black gun crime, offences in the capital rose by more than 50 per cent during 2005, with 164 offences recorded between April and October. This is compared with only 108 the previous year. . . .

                                                    Outside London, the figures also show a disturbing rise in the use of guns. In Bedfordshire, gun-related offences have risen by 20 per cent over the past two years, from 173 in 2004 to 207 in 2005. The number of cases where people were found carrying a gun more than doubled from 19 to 43 in the same period. There was also a rise in the number of stolen firearms seized - 18 compared with one the year before. . . .

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                                                    • Anthony
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                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                      • 9653

                                                      #226
                                                      Originally posted by VG.Content
                                                      No need man, I am pissed at this news, I am more pissed that right now a lot of people in America are plotting ways to make money off it. The TV movie about it, books, a Michael Moore movie about it, and how every news agency is tossing all kinds of bullshit out there hoping to be the first person to break "the real story"
                                                      Cheers mate.

                                                      Watching the news is making my blood boil.

                                                      Sensationlism in the media. Fucking bullshit. This is a major tragedy, and they are milking it for all it's worth.

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                                                      • scottybuzz
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • May 2006
                                                        • 14799

                                                        #227
                                                        Originally posted by Anthony
                                                        YAWN.

                                                        You are not an American. You have no idea what it is to be an American. You have no clue how firearms are attached to the Amercian Psyche, how owning one created this Country of ours with force from Britain.

                                                        No one will ever BAN guns in the USA.

                                                        Your "SOLUTION" holds no water, and is moot.
                                                        so anthony how do you suggest you solve the problem?
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                                                        • FuqALot
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                                                          • Dec 2001
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                                                          #228
                                                          this is really sad...

                                                          the problem with the usa is that all news reports mention "worst uni shooting ever in usa", while in many countries there has never been a single uni shooting before.

                                                          when guns are so easily available in a country that starts wars, this is what happens.

                                                          and now comes bush telling it's so wrong to shoot people. lol, nice example you are yourself.

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                                                          • scottybuzz
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                                                            • May 2006
                                                            • 14799

                                                            #229
                                                            Originally posted by scardog
                                                            London, England: "Capital gun crime rises by 50 per cent" Last year

                                                            Figures published this week by the Home Office are expected to show that offences involving guns have soared by as much as 50 per cent in some parts of the country. . . .

                                                            In London, a major area of concern is still black-on-black gun crime, despite huge efforts by the Met to combat such violence. According to Operation Trident, the Met's unit combating black gun crime, offences in the capital rose by more than 50 per cent during 2005, with 164 offences recorded between April and October. This is compared with only 108 the previous year. . . .

                                                            Outside London, the figures also show a disturbing rise in the use of guns. In Bedfordshire, gun-related offences have risen by 20 per cent over the past two years, from 173 in 2004 to 207 in 2005. The number of cases where people were found carrying a gun more than doubled from 19 to 43 in the same period. There was also a rise in the number of stolen firearms seized - 18 compared with one the year before. . . .


                                                            no,no,no again your missing the point, i am talking about school related gun crime!
                                                            im talking about pyshcos criminals rather than normal criminals
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                                                            • dynastoned
                                                              mmm yeah!
                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                              • 5061

                                                              #230
                                                              Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                              there was also mass protest when england banned guns completley, but it was a complete carpet ban that was needed and that what it got.
                                                              This isn't England we aren't giving up our Right to Bear Arms. I don't give a fuck how many school shootings there are.

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                                                              • scottybuzz
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                                                                • May 2006
                                                                • 14799

                                                                #231
                                                                Originally posted by FuqALot
                                                                this is really sad...

                                                                the problem with the usa is that all news reports mention "worst uni shooting ever in usa", while in many countries there has never been a single uni shooting before.

                                                                when guns are so easily available in a country that starts wars, this is what happens.

                                                                and now comes bush telling it's so wrong to shoot people. lol, nice example you are yourself.
                                                                i completley agree.
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                                                                • scardog
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                                                                  • Aug 2004
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                                                                  #232
                                                                  Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                                  no,no,no again your missing the point, i am talking about school related gun crime!
                                                                  im talking about pyshcos criminals rather than normal criminals
                                                                  Guns are banned here in schools. Guns are banned in England. It didn't stop the shooting today, or reduce the gun crime in England.

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                                                                  • scottybuzz
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                                                                    • May 2006
                                                                    • 14799

                                                                    #233
                                                                    Originally posted by dynastoned
                                                                    This isn't England we aren't giving up our Right to Bear Arms. I don't give a fuck how many school shootings there are.
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                                                                    • scardog
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                                                                      #234
                                                                      Originally posted by FuqALot
                                                                      this is really sad...

                                                                      the problem with the usa is that all news reports mention "worst uni shooting ever in usa", while in many countries there has never been a single uni shooting before.

                                                                      when guns are so easily available in a country that starts wars, this is what happens.

                                                                      and now comes bush telling it's so wrong to shoot people. lol, nice example you are yourself.

                                                                      Seems to me the "country that starts wars" helped out others in wars we didn't start. Otherwise, you may very well be writing your posts in German.

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                                                                      • scottybuzz
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                                                                        • May 2006
                                                                        • 14799

                                                                        #235
                                                                        Originally posted by scardog
                                                                        Guns are banned here in schools. Guns are banned in England. It didn't stop the shooting today, or reduce the gun crime in England.
                                                                        because guns are so easy to get hold off.
                                                                        (reread carpet banning part)


                                                                        ooo forget it, unbelievable it will happen again and again in america. and you people will still be whining on gfy and how it is purely the pyschos fault even though other countries dont experience it.


                                                                        america america america.


                                                                        im off out
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                                                                        • Anthony
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                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                          • 9653

                                                                          #236
                                                                          Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                                          so anthony how do you suggest you solve the problem?
                                                                          I posted about this earlier. Look back for "Pandora's Box".

                                                                          The legal right to carry firearms is a massive detterant to crime.

                                                                          We can not ban the guns, it's just too huge.

                                                                          The fact that schools are known for being "Gun Free" zones weighs heavily on idiot's like this today. For the one fact, there won't be anyone to fight back.

                                                                          It's a huge problem, and not something one person can fix, or this would have been solved a long time ago.

                                                                          Till the day comes that we have a solution, I will be a lawful citizen with my right to bear arms.

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                                                                          • scottybuzz
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                                                                            • May 2006
                                                                            • 14799

                                                                            #237
                                                                            Originally posted by scardog
                                                                            Seems to me the "country that starts wars" helped out others in wars we didn't start. Otherwise, you may very well be writing your posts in German.
                                                                            kindergarden class here

                                                                            may you be reminded that we found your country? and that the french helped save you from the british?


                                                                            ok enough of the bullshit plz.
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                                                                            • scardog
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                                                                              #238
                                                                              Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                                              because guns are so easy to get hold off.
                                                                              (reread carpet banning part)


                                                                              ooo forget it, unbelievable it will happen again and again in america. and you people will still be whining on gfy and how it is purely the pyschos fault even though other countries dont experience it.


                                                                              america america america.


                                                                              im off out

                                                                              Did the carpet ban reduce gun crime in England? What I read says no.

                                                                              England, england, england.

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                                                                              • Basic_man
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                                                                                #239
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                                                                                • scardog
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                                                                                  #240
                                                                                  Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                                                  kindergarden class here

                                                                                  may you be reminded that we found your country? and that the french helped save you from the british?


                                                                                  ok enough of the bullshit plz.

                                                                                  You found our country? Thanks. The french didn't help much in the last world war though. Yeah, enough bullshit.

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                                                                                  • robfantasy
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                                                                                    #241
                                                                                    this is an absolute tragedy, alot of people around here go to virginia tech
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                                                                                    • BlackCrayon
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                                                                                      #242
                                                                                      Originally posted by scardog
                                                                                      You should be allowed ot have a gun if you are an adult. If not, then don't complain when a crazy guy shoots your unarmed masses.
                                                                                      While people 18-25 are technically adults, most are very immature. If guns were allowed to be carried by students there would be daily incidents of these "adults" pulling them out on someone, using them for intimdation, ect for one reason or another.
                                                                                      you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                      • BlackCrayon
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                                                                                        #243
                                                                                        Originally posted by Gregory Black
                                                                                        Cowards like you are the downfall of any civilization.

                                                                                        If I had been in that room I promise you I would have pulled my gun and either killed that nut or died trying.

                                                                                        NOT EVERYONE is a coward.
                                                                                        You probably would of been shaking like a leaf and hit a couple other people in the process. Anyways, the guy was wearing a vest, good luck. You only have his head to hit.
                                                                                        you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                        • Brad
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                                                                                          #244
                                                                                          After reading four depressing pages of propaganda here, it occurs to me that life is worth less than I thought. Or at least people seem to value it less now than in the past.

                                                                                          I'd like to see someone intelligently explain how more guns equals a safer society.

                                                                                          If you give more people the power to kill then chance are more people are going to abuse that power. Take a look at gang violence in Compton in the 80's and 90's for an example of this. Or you could watch the movie "City of God" for another example. Both these stories end in violence and death because guns end up in the hands of disenfranchised youth who don?t have enough years under their belt to understand the value of life or comprehend the weight of their decisions.
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                                                                                          • Brad
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                                                                                            • Jan 2007
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                                                                                            #245
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                                                                                            • Anthony
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                                                                                              • Feb 2001
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                                                                                              #246
                                                                                              Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                                                              kindergarden class here

                                                                                              may you be reminded that we found your country? and that the french helped save you from the british?


                                                                                              ok enough of the bullshit plz.
                                                                                              Let's get back to your solution. A blanket gun ban.

                                                                                              How much gun crime did the gun ban decrease?

                                                                                              http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1440764.stm

                                                                                              A new study suggests the use of handguns in crime rose by 40% in the two years after the weapons were banned.

                                                                                              The research, commissioned by the Countryside Alliance's Campaign for Shooting, has concluded that existing laws are targeting legitimate users of firearms rather than criminals.

                                                                                              The ban on ownership of handguns was introduced in 1997 as a result of the Dunblane massacre, when Thomas Hamilton opened fire at a primary school leaving 16 children and their teacher dead.

                                                                                              Existing gun laws do not lead to crime reduction and a safer place

                                                                                              David Bredin
                                                                                              Campaign for Shooting

                                                                                              But the report suggests that despite the restrictions on ownership the use of handguns in crime is rising.

                                                                                              The Centre for Defence Studies at Kings College in London, which carried out the research, said the number of crimes in which a handgun was reported increased from 2,648 in 1997/98 to 3,685 in 1999/2000.

                                                                                              It also said there was no link between high levels of gun crime and areas where there were still high levels of lawful gun possession.

                                                                                              Of the 20 police areas with the lowest number of legally held firearms, 10 had an above average level of gun crime.

                                                                                              And of the 20 police areas with the highest levels of legally held guns only two had armed crime levels above the average.

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                                                                                              • scardog
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                                                                                                • Aug 2004
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                                                                                                #247
                                                                                                Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                While people 18-25 are technically adults, most are very immature. If guns were allowed to be carried by students there would be daily incidents of these "adults" pulling them out on someone, using them for intimdation, ect for one reason or another.
                                                                                                I have an idea. We would make it against the law to brandish your weapon for intimidation. Since laws are the way to approach the problem, we would just make tougher laws for pulling your gun on someone. That would of course stop the behavior.

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                                                                                                • scardog
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                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
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                                                                                                  #248
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Adult Lounge - Brad
                                                                                                  After reading four depressing pages of propaganda here, it occurs to me that life is worth less than I thought. Or at least people seem to value it less now than in the past.

                                                                                                  I'd like to see someone intelligently explain how more guns equals a safer society.

                                                                                                  If you give more people the power to kill then chance are more people are going to abuse that power. Take a look at gang violence in Compton in the 80's and 90's for an example of this. Or you could watch the movie "City of God" for another example. Both these stories end in violence and death because guns end up in the hands of disenfranchised youth who don?t have enough years under their belt to understand the value of life or comprehend the weight of their decisions.
                                                                                                  The guns you are speaking of are in the hands of homicidal drug criminals. We are suggesting getting more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens.

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                                                                                                  • Anthony
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                                                                                                    • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                    #249
                                                                                                    Originally posted by scardog
                                                                                                    I have an idea. We would make it against the law to brandish your weapon for intimidation. Since laws are the way to approach the problem, we would just make tougher laws for pulling your gun on someone. That would of course stop the behavior.
                                                                                                    Scardog,

                                                                                                    It is already against the law to brandish your firearm as a means of intimidation.

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                                                                                                    • scardog
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                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
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                                                                                                      #250
                                                                                                      Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                      You probably would of been shaking like a leaf and hit a couple other people in the process. Anyways, the guy was wearing a vest, good luck. You only have his head to hit.
                                                                                                      Get shot in the hand and see if you still feel like killing people. There is a lot more to a guy than a vest can cover. Get shot in the chest while wearing a vest and see if you still feel like killing people.

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