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  • Prairiegrrl
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    • Dec 2005
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    #101
    Originally posted by Mutt
    excuse me? wasn't the last big college campus shooting at Dawson College in Montreal? correct me if I'm wrong, Montreal is still in Canada non?
    Montreal is in Canada, but they like pretend they aren't.

    It's a shame for all the parents who are waiting to hear if is was their child/ren who are among the casualites. I don't have any children but I can feel for these parents who are living out their worst nightmare.
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    • camcruise
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      #102
      Originally posted by DOCTOR 30
      Problem is we don't give ENOUGH people ENOUGH guns!

      If every kid on that campus was armned and trained in gun maintainance and use, that gunman wouldn't have had half the chance he had.

      There's a reason the law says "right to keep and bear arms" not
      "almost, depending on the whims of or ideas set by..."
      Dont get me wrong. I believe that we all have a right to bear arms. But I do think that we should do the same thing with guns that we do with a car.
      We dont just sell you a car and say go ahead and drive.
      We make sure that you know the law and go though tests that say that you a deemed to be safe to use what could be a deadly machine in public.
      WE should do the same with guns. Thats all I am saying. It will not stop all of this. but would cut down on it.

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      • DOCTOR 30
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        #103
        Latest news 29 dead. Biggest mass shooting in U.S. history. 7:15 this morning first shooting. One fatality at that point. Shooter then went to Norris hall, and then killed 20+. Shooter dead. Not all dead are students.

        Maybe as much as 32 dead according to FBI.

        Maybe an incident off campus that spilled onto the campus that led to shootings. All weapons were handguns, semi-automatic handguns.

        One shooter, possibly the result of an off campus incident where a
        shooting occured.

        Police 'believe' not confirmed that the shooter took his own life.

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        • DOCTOR 30
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          #104
          Originally posted by camcruise
          Dont get me wrong. I believe that we all have a right to bear arms. But I do think that we should do the same thing with guns that we do with a car.
          We dont just sell you a car and say go ahead and drive.
          We make sure that you know the law and go though tests that say that you a deemed to be safe to use what could be a deadly machine in public.
          WE should do the same with guns. Thats all I am saying. It will not stop all of this. but would cut down on it.

          Well said!

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          • Bryan G
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            • Aug 2005
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            #105
            Originally posted by baddog
            Why do people like you hate to hear the truth?
            sure believe what you want
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            • Splum
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              #106

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              • Dirty F
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                • Jul 2001
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                #107
                Originally posted by DOCTOR 30
                Well said!
                Imbecile, what about if nobody had a gun? Maybe not 32 people would have died? Can you imagine if all those kids had guns there what wouldve happened?

                God, you live in one fucked up fantasy world.

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                • DOCTOR 30
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                  #108
                  No telling who or what race the shooter is. Pins and needles as details come out.

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                  • Big_Red
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                    #109
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                    • 69pornlinks
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                      • Mar 2003
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by baddog
                      Some people don't handle Mondays very well.
                      haha..


                      Shooting on the Virginia Tech campus leaves one dead and the shooter at large

                      At least one person is dead and up to nine more were wounded in two shootings this morning at Virginia Tech. Officials say a gunman has been arrested. (April 16)

                      In the deadliest school shooting in U.S. history, officials at Virginia Tech say at least 25 are dead and many more are wounded after a gunman opened fire on campus. ABC News(the headlines say at least 29n dead)

                      to many confilcting stories. i could care less about any of it...so i'm done
                      It IS what it IS

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                      • baddog
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                        #111
                        Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                        Just buy them a gun for self protection. Isnt this what everybody does in the first place and why there is a HUGE gun problem in the US?
                        As stated on page one, you don't know shit.

                        Originally posted by 69pornlinks
                        i'm sure that's about to happen..now....interesting....


                        Originally posted by MetaMan
                        Where do you get your facts from?

                        This is GFY, facts are made on the fly.

                        Originally posted by Platinum Bryan
                        I understand that, however I dont even think the numbers would be close if we had 10x the population.
                        Oh, because you don't think so, it must be accurate.

                        Originally posted by Chandiegirl
                        Are people THAT afraid to fight back? I can't imagine that a group of 10+ couldn't overpower a person with such little fire power?
                        They listen to people like Franck and Bryan.

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                        • Pumba
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                          #112
                          Real tragedy.

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                          • GatorB
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                            #113
                            Originally posted by DOCTOR 30
                            Problem is we don't give ENOUGH people ENOUGH guns!

                            If every kid on that campus was armned and trained in gun maintainance and use, that gunman wouldn't have had half the chance he had.

                            There's a reason the law says "right to keep and bear arms" not
                            "almost, depending on the whims of or ideas set by..."
                            If everyone had a gun MORE people would be dead, but the vast majority do not only not know how to fire a gun properly they also have bad aim. Not to mention the Dirty Harrys among them and people just firing hysterically.


                            Gun safety and maintenance? People don't even take those classes now? Even suggesting one should take a gun safety and maintenance course before getting gun will get the NRA is a hissy.

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                            • xroach
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                              #114
                              Originally posted by Platinum Bryan
                              Think its about time for some gun contol in the US, fucking insane

                              if more people had been able to shoot back, less would have died.

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                              • DOCTOR 30
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                                #115
                                Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                                Imbecile, what about if nobody had a gun? Maybe not 32 people would have died? Can you imagine if all those kids had guns there what wouldve happened?

                                God, you live in one fucked up fantasy world.
                                I'm the one in a fantasy world?

                                Just because the world doesn't run on your Lucky Charms cereal box logic you feel you can evaluate for others?

                                Here's a hint on reality: Have a gun, no need for one.

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                                • The Adult Broker
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                                  #116
                                  The U.S. is looking like Iraq.

                                  what is out world coming to.

                                  this country is out of control.

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                                  • MetaMan
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                                    #117
                                    Franck you are a fucking idiot, you were easier to own then spacedog.

                                    COMPLETE TOOL.

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                                    • GatorB
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                                      • Oct 2001
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                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by xroach
                                      if more people had been able to shoot back, less would have died.
                                      Yes MORE bullets flying = LESS deaths. You earn retard of the day award. Take your gun and shoot yourself now.

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                                      • stickyfingerz
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                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                                        Ofcourse. He obviously practised a few months with his dads gun (which he bought for the american gun myth called "self protection").

                                        Fucking imbeciles.
                                        Someday someone is likely to slap the taste out of your mouth....

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                                        • baddog
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                                          • Apr 2001
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                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                                          Imbecile, what about if nobody had a gun? Maybe not 32 people would have died? Can you imagine if all those kids had guns there what wouldve happened?

                                          God, you live in one fucked up fantasy world.
                                          You live in a very strange world.

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                                          • pornguy
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                                            #121
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                                            • Splum
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                                              #122
                                              Without people like Franck, GatorB and PlatinumBryan there would be no victims in massacres like this.

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                                              • baddog
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                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by The Adult Broker
                                                The U.S. is looking like Iraq.

                                                what is out world coming to.

                                                this country is out of control.
                                                That was a pretty stupid comment coming from someone I thought was somewhat intelligent.

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                                                • ChandieGirl
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                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by xroach
                                                  if more people had been able to shoot back, less would have died.

                                                  What about fighting back? Do you really need a gun with 30+ people and 1 guy with 2 9mm's?
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                                                  • scardog
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                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by Platinum Bryan
                                                    Think its about time for some gun contol in the US, fucking insane
                                                    Gun control is why this shit can happen. Can you imagine if this wasn't a "gun free" zone? Some of those students would have had their own guns. But since gun control laws prevented that, the good guys got shot. Bad guys don't obey gun control laws apparently.

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                                                    • BlackCrayon
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                                                      • Jun 2003
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                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by scardog
                                                      Gun control is why this shit can happen. Can you imagine if this wasn't a "gun free" zone? Some of those students would have had their own guns. But since gun control laws prevented that, the good guys got shot. Bad guys don't obey gun control laws apparently.
                                                      so you think university students should be allowed to bring guns to class?? guns laws or not, that would never happen. thats just retarded.
                                                      you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                      • baddog
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                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by Chandiegirl
                                                        What about fighting back? Do you really need a gun with 30+ people and 1 guy with 2 9mm's?
                                                        granted, the shooter eventually has to reload, but there are probably not that many heroes willing to take one for the team while they wait for him to get to that point

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                                                        • Anthony
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                                                          #128
                                                          Jesus H. Christ...

                                                          This is just unreal.

                                                          The students and faculty were barricading themselves in their classrooms after what one person described as an Asian student wearing a vest opened fire.

                                                          The shooter was "wearing a vest covered in clips was just unloading on their door, going from classroom to classroom … they said it never seemed like it was going to stop and there was just blood all over," Harrison said.

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                                                          • ChandieGirl
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                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                            granted, the shooter eventually has to reload, but there are probably not that many heroes willing to take one for the team while they wait for him to get to that point


                                                            So then 30 people "take one for the team"?
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                                                            • baddog
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                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by Chandiegirl
                                                              So then 30 people "take one for the team"?
                                                              Well, if the post by Anthony is accurate there were not 30 in one spot.

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                                                              • Splum
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                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by Chandiegirl
                                                                What about fighting back? Do you really need a gun with 30+ people and 1 guy with 2 9mm's?
                                                                It was an American university, these kids are brainwashed into being non-violent pacifists, these poor kids probably had no clue what to do.

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                                                                • stickyfingerz
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                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                                                                  Just buy them a gun for self protection. Isnt this what everybody does in the first place and why there is a HUGE gun problem in the US?
                                                                  yes only way people could be killed in a school is with a gun. Take them all away and the children will be safe....


                                                                  http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/as....02/index.html


                                                                  http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...killings_x.htm

                                                                  http://www.sptimes.com/News/060801/W...s_four_a.shtml

                                                                  Retard..

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                                                                  • »Rob Content«
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                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by xroach
                                                                    if more people had been able to shoot back, less would have died.

                                                                    If many of the students had guns more people would have died. It was fucking mass mayhem at that school. When the shooter entered the classroom I assure you as soon as the first shot was fired everyone started running like crazy to protect themselves, the chances of hitting the shooter and no one else is slim. Keep in mind someone else could come running by and see you shoot the actual shooter and assume you are the shooter and then shoot you, and then someone would see him shoot you and then shoot him. Could have been a lot worse if many of the students carried guns.

                                                                    Plain and simple guns are out of control in the states, the law in the constitution was made ages ago when there was not a LARGE LARGE military that we have today, and there was still a large threat of many people invading us soil to claim that land there own. If no one could get a gun, why would we need one to protect ourselves.

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                                                                    • stickyfingerz
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                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by Platinum Bryan
                                                                      sure believe what you want
                                                                      Your Scottish right?

                                                                      March 13, 1996 -- Dunblane, Scotland

                                                                      Armed with four handguns, Thomas Hamilton entered an elementary school in the small Scottish town of Dunblane and killed 16 children, all ages 5 and 6, and a 44-year-old kindergarten teacher before killing himself. Eight other children and two adults were wounded in the attack.
                                                                      Only in America eh?

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                                                                      • Ravage
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                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by ronaldo
                                                                        Note-I quoted the first line, because had this incident happened LAST week, Imus would probably still be employed, because the news coverage wouldn't have been there.
                                                                        That was pretty much the reason I posted that comment. The sad truth, is CNN is loving this incident. Reporters have no morality. This is gold to them. The Imus story was dead 3 days after it happenned, yet they streched it for a week.

                                                                        Why? Because people are sick of hearing yet another Iraq failure story. Now, CNN is foaming at the mouth with this new story. Weeks of shooting news, comparisons to Columbine, and other similar style shootings. By the evening, they'll have the perfect tagline for the tragedy, with a whole week of programming laid out, ensuring you do not miss one detail of this tragedy.

                                                                        By July, the made for TV movie will be out.

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                                                                        • DOCTOR 30
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                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by Chandiegirl
                                                                          What about fighting back? Do you really need a gun with 30+ people and 1 guy with 2 9mm's?
                                                                          Problem with a 9mm round is that they can 'travel' meaning
                                                                          they go through one body and go through another and etc.

                                                                          That was the argument years ago in NY when cops were wanting
                                                                          9 millies instead of those .38s. .38 slug would knock a man down but
                                                                          not always kill him. I've seen men hit with a .38 round, get up and
                                                                          kick someone's ass or draw their own gun.

                                                                          9mm rounds richochet too. The gunman had the element of surprise.

                                                                          He may have shot most of his victims in the back. Not face to face
                                                                          to see them suffer.

                                                                          When people are that bunched up, a gunman with an automatic can
                                                                          let off a clip in a matter of seconds. One's first instinct is to run or
                                                                          hit the dirt.

                                                                          Let's say he had 9 in the clip and 1 round chambered. That clip is
                                                                          emptied in like 3 seconds. That's the problem with automatics.
                                                                          You spend all day loading clips, go to the target range and in
                                                                          a matter of a few minutes you've emptied the clips and are back
                                                                          to loading them fuckers again.

                                                                          This killer had a choice range of control. What his true motives
                                                                          are will be the stuff that talk shows are made of.

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                                                                          • Gregory Black
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                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by VG.Content
                                                                            If many of the students had guns more people would have died. It was fucking mass mayhem at that school. When the shooter entered the classroom I assure you as soon as the first shot was fired everyone started running like crazy to protect themselves, the chances of hitting the shooter and no one else is slim. Keep in mind someone else could come running by and see you shoot the actual shooter and assume you are the shooter and then shoot you, and then someone would see him shoot you and then shoot him. Could have been a lot worse if many of the students carried guns.

                                                                            Plain and simple guns are out of control in the states, the law in the constitution was made ages ago when there was not a LARGE LARGE military that we have today, and there was still a large threat of many people invading us soil to claim that land there own. If no one could get a gun, why would we need one to protect ourselves.
                                                                            Cowards like you are the downfall of any civilization.

                                                                            If I had been in that room I promise you I would have pulled my gun and either killed that nut or died trying.

                                                                            NOT EVERYONE is a coward.

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                                                                            • scottybuzz
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                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                                              That will only affect law abiding citizens.. wackos and criminals always get their guns.. or their drugs which is illegal btw... Criminals in Brazil are having a good laugh about their gun control laws, nobody to shoot at them now.. lol
                                                                              disagree with you now, because in england after the school shooting guns were banned and there hasnt been one since.
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                                                                              • mattz
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                                                                                #139
                                                                                wow this is horrible

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                                                                                • scardog
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                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                  so you think university students should be allowed to bring guns to class?? guns laws or not, that would never happen. thats just retarded.

                                                                                  You should be allowed ot have a gun if you are an adult. If not, then don't complain when a crazy guy shoots your unarmed masses.

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                                                                                  • Anthony
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                                                                                    • Feb 2001
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                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by VG.Content
                                                                                    If many of the students had guns more people would have died. It was fucking mass mayhem at that school. When the shooter entered the classroom I assure you as soon as the first shot was fired everyone started running like crazy to protect themselves, the chances of hitting the shooter and no one else is slim. Keep in mind someone else could come running by and see you shoot the actual shooter and assume you are the shooter and then shoot you, and then someone would see him shoot you and then shoot him. Could have been a lot worse if many of the students carried guns.

                                                                                    Plain and simple guns are out of control in the states, the law in the constitution was made ages ago when there was not a LARGE LARGE military that we have today, and there was still a large threat of many people invading us soil to claim that land there own. If no one could get a gun, why would we need one to protect ourselves.
                                                                                    Pandora's box has already been open, you can't stop the proliferation of firearms. By ensuring that citizens with the legal right to carry firearms has shown to be the biggest detriment to crime in the US.

                                                                                    Florida has a reciprocal CCW license with Virginia, if you pass backround tests, you will get a concealed permit (CCW). The laws are similliar, you cannot carry onto a school campus.

                                                                                    Which doesn't matter one bit to a physcho who decides he wants to shoot everyone dead.

                                                                                    Why do you think shootings happen in places that you can't carry a gun in to protect yourself?!

                                                                                    Schools
                                                                                    Goverment Buildings
                                                                                    Post Offices

                                                                                    No one there can shoot back.

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                                                                                    • mattz
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                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                                                      disagree with you now, because in england after the school shooting guns were banned and there hasnt been one since.
                                                                                      even if guns were banned, people could still get then, drugs are banned - that didnt stop anyone

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                                                                                      • scardog
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                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Originally posted by VG.Content
                                                                                        If many of the students had guns more people would have died. It was fucking mass mayhem at that school. When the shooter entered the classroom I assure you as soon as the first shot was fired everyone started running like crazy to protect themselves, the chances of hitting the shooter and no one else is slim. Keep in mind someone else could come running by and see you shoot the actual shooter and assume you are the shooter and then shoot you, and then someone would see him shoot you and then shoot him. Could have been a lot worse if many of the students carried guns.

                                                                                        Plain and simple guns are out of control in the states, the law in the constitution was made ages ago when there was not a LARGE LARGE military that we have today, and there was still a large threat of many people invading us soil to claim that land there own. If no one could get a gun, why would we need one to protect ourselves.
                                                                                        You don't own a gun and know how to use it right?

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                                                                                        • DOCTOR 30
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                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          News says dude first went classroom to classroom shooting and killing. Then TWO FUCKING HOURS LATER he hits the other end of the campus???

                                                                                          WTF????

                                                                                          News says the campus has 28,000 students.

                                                                                          Says shooter is Asian-American.

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                                                                                          • DOCTOR 30
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                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            See? I was right. The campus WAS on lockdown after first shooting causing the others to get bunched up says ABC news.

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                                                                                            • ronaldo
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                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                                                              disagree with you now, because in england after the school shooting guns were banned and there hasnt been one since.
                                                                                              It's only a matter of time. It's ALWAYS only a matter of time. Gun laws or not, it'll happen again when someone REALLY wants to do it. At best it'll slow down the process.

                                                                                              Ask the person who proposed the law and I'll bet anything even THEY would admit that.

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                                                                                              • »Rob Content«
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                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Originally posted by Gregory Black
                                                                                                Cowards like you are the downfall of any civilization.

                                                                                                If I had been in that room I promise you I would have pulled my gun and either killed that nut or died trying.

                                                                                                NOT EVERYONE is a coward.
                                                                                                I'm not a coward, just because I don't own a gun does not make me less of a person.

                                                                                                You cannot carry a gun in a school or college unless you are a federal agent. So your theory is wrong.

                                                                                                And you've never been in that situation, every time something like this happens, everyone would of had a gun, everyone would have stopped him before he killed more etc etc.

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                                                                                                • »Rob Content«
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                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Originally posted by scardog
                                                                                                  You don't own a gun and know how to use it right?
                                                                                                  I know how to use one just fine, I don't own one as I have no reason to.

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                                                                                                  • Splum
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                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    School faculty should be required to have and know how to use non-lethal arms like tasers and such, matter of fact I think I am going to go to my local school board and propose this idea.

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                                                                                                    • DOCTOR 30
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                                                                                                      • Aug 2006
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                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      News now says Asian American male, looking for girlfriend who had broken up with him is reason for shootings.

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