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  • Phoenix
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    • Nov 2002
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    #1

    The Official 9/11 thread..scientific inquiry..and comparisons with demolitions

    This is a an excellent video...thanks to the person who sent it to me.
    I'll leave their name out of it. It is 90 minutes so make sure you have gotten some work done first

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMWn-bQYfSc

    watch it....it talks about energy and the amount needed to throw plane sized chuncks of seeel hundreds of metres sideways.

    how the frame of the building was really like mosquito netting and a plane or five should not have given it any trouble.

    where are the core steel girders? 47 huge steel beams all neatly cut into 30 ft sections....how does that happen exactly?

    comparison video of demolitions and showing other buildings that have fallen down.

    In depth look at the so called expalnation videos from Nova etc...and why they never ansered any critical quetions. Just enough tto keep the fools who fool themselves happy.

    Anyway..enjoy the video...and flame on.

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  • Ramos2
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    #2
    we never landed on the moon
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    • thebestdamnsexshow
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      #3
      thanks for sharing the vid

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      • notabook
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        #4
        Originally posted by Ramos
        we never landed on the moon
        True. Also JFK was shot by the clone of Elvis Presley.

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        • campimp
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          #5
          fuck george bush

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          • Phoenix
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            • Nov 2002
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            #6
            Originally posted by Ramos
            we never landed on the moon
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRW0vc_2wXU


            watch the video man...only fools reject scientific findings

            but yet that is is what is being sold to everyone
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            • Dirty F
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              • Jul 2001
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              #7
              Originally posted by Phoenix
              and a plane or five should not have given it any trouble.
              Delusional idiot, have you ever looked at the actual close up footage and the damage that one plane did? You are really beyond pathetic.

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              • Phoenix
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                #8
                Originally posted by notabook
                True. Also JFK was shot by the clone of Elvis Presley.
                i guess you swallow up the "pancake theory" and hold it tight to your chest rocking back and forth saying thing s like no noe would do this to us knowingly


                you know that in real life if it did pancake the theory of pancaking should have slowed the progressive crash of the building falling..not speed it up.
                Each floor should add resistance....but yet these builds fell at the speed of gravity.


                why did the basement blow up...lol



                well keep your head in the sand it will be ok

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                • Dirty F
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                  #9
                  There are recordings of this guy, an engineer or something, who knew the wtc inside out. He went inside after the plane hit the building to help people get out. He kept calling with the control center to keep them up to date with the situation. When he reached the area where the plane entered he said the damage was HUGE and he was afraid the tower might collapse because of it.

                  You know, those 2 sentences from that guy make more sense than all your idiotic delusional 16 year old kid in his moms basement making up crazy theories bs.
                  Last edited by Dirty F; 04-13-2007, 06:45 AM.

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                  • Dirty F
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                    • Jul 2001
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Phoenix
                    you know that in real life if it did pancake the theory of pancaking should have slowed the progressive crash of the building falling..not speed it up.
                    Each floor should add resistance....but yet these builds fell at the speed of gravity.
                    No it did not delusional moron. Check any footage from any site. Even your conspiracy lunatic sites. The debris falls faster than the building itself. What how fast is that then? Faster than the speed of gravity

                    Fucking moron imbecile. I hope someone takes a shit on your head.

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                    • Phoenix
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                      Delusional idiot, have you ever looked at the actual close up footage and the damage that one plane did? You are really beyond pathetic.
                      you mean the huge fireball that consumd most of the kerosene the instant impact occured?

                      Or do you perhaps mean the fact that it was billowing smoke like crazy....kerosene burns free and clear and doesnt produce smoke..the fire was oxygen starved thus the smoke.

                      wait tell us again how the steel melted..and that is what brought down the towers...lol..you are the idiot franck and everyone knows it.


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                      • Phoenix
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                        No it did not delusional moron. Check any footage from any site. Even your conspiracy lunatic sites. The debris falls faster than the building itself. What how fast is that then? Faster than the speed of gravity

                        Fucking moron imbecile. I hope someone takes a shit on your head.

                        im sorry did you just say that debris was falling faster then the speed of gravity?
                        based on what again?

                        this is good stuff keep it coming...you dont even really warrant a response from me..but ill play along for awhile
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                        • StuartD
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                          Delusional idiot, have you ever looked at the actual close up footage and the damage that one plane did? You are really beyond pathetic.
                          Ah, now I understand. You only see what you want to see, and skip the videos and arguments of others without even listening. No wonder you believe the official story so deeply. You've heard nothing but.

                          Way to keep an open mind
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                          • v4 media
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                            Fucking moron imbecile. I hope someone takes a shit on your head.

                            Say what you really think, don't hold back now.

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                            • Phoenix
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by StuartD
                              Ah, now I understand. You only see what you want to see, and skip the videos and arguments of others without even listening. No wonder you believe the official story so deeply. You've heard nothing but.

                              Way to keep an open mind

                              Franck has ostrich syndrome.

                              he doesnt want to believe there are real bad guys out there...he thinks that kind of stuff is just for the movies.
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                              • StuartD
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                                #16
                                I love this part...



                                "Compare the 20 hours of a raging inferno in Madrid to 90 minutes of smoke in New York. The building in Madrid never fell."
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                                • 12clicks
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Phoenix
                                  The Official 9/11 thread
                                  Originally posted by Phoenix
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                                  • Dirty F
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                                    • Jul 2001
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Phoenix
                                    you mean the huge fireball that consumd most of the kerosene the instant impact occured?

                                    Or do you perhaps mean the fact that it was billowing smoke like crazy....kerosene burns free and clear and doesnt produce smoke..the fire was oxygen starved thus the smoke.

                                    wait tell us again how the steel melted..and that is what brought down the towers...lol..you are the idiot franck and everyone knows it.


                                    do you hope to get taken into the mafia for your support on a porn board? lol

                                    Where do i say the steel melted you fucking imbecile???

                                    And i didnt ask for your idiotic smoke theories. I asked you if you ever sen the actual damage in one of the many close up shots. The plane made a few floors almost dissapear and you come here claiming it could easily handle 4 or 5 planes. Thats the most idiotic comment ive read from you so far. And all because some 16 year old kids makes that up in his home made video. Fucking hell what a fucking retard you are. Find help.

                                    Why the fuck would anybody want to do business with an delusion idiot like you. You are crazy. You know, fucked up in your head. A lunatic.

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                                    • Dirty F
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                                      • Jul 2001
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by StuartD
                                      I love this part...



                                      "Compare the 20 hours of a raging inferno in Madrid to 90 minutes of smoke in New York. The building in Madrid never fell."
                                      What happened in Madrid? A huge ass plane destroyed a few floors of the building as well?

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                                      • Phoenix
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by 12clicks
                                        thanks for putting some thought into your argument...we know that must encapsulate your total mental ability

                                        we thank you for your contribution

                                        but this thread is closed to morons...so please go try on a new skirt or something
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                                        • StuartD
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                                          What happened in Madrid? A huge ass plane destroyed a few floors of the building as well?
                                          The official story is that the fires caused the collapse, not the initial collision. But you know that, you're an expert on the subject.
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                                          • Dirty F
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                                            #22
                                            Funny how you simply ignore the engineer who knew more about the twin towers then you ever will he he says the tower might collapse.

                                            Hey, thats not important right. I mean small detail and why would you believe that. You rather believe some idiot at home making up stories right. Because thats waaaaaay more plausible.

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                                            • Phoenix
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                                              What happened in Madrid? A huge ass plane destroyed a few floors of the building as well?
                                              do some research you twit..there are many instances of fires burning much hotter and for much longer and no buildings fell.
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                                              • Phoenix
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                                                Funny how you simply ignore the engineer who knew more about the twin towers then you ever will he he says the tower might collapse.

                                                Hey, thats not important right. I mean small detail and why would you believe that. You rather believe some idiot at home making up stories right. Because thats waaaaaay more plausible.
                                                who are you talking about?

                                                the building engineer sho said that there were explosions used in the building?

                                                is that the guy you are referring to?
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                                                • Martin
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                                                  #25
                                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD5Wl...elated&search=


                                                  If you still think that planes could turn both those 110 story STEEL towers into dust then you're the one thats pathetic!

                                                  Bush knocked down the towers, it was you nigga, tell the truth nigga!

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                                                  • WarChild
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                                                    #26


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                                                    • Dirty F
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by StuartD
                                                      The official story is that the fires caused the collapse, not the initial collision. But you know that, you're an expert on the subject.
                                                      So imbecile, are you saying you are comparing 2 incidents. One building with a fire and one building where a fucking big plane destroyed a few floors and based on the fact that the one with the fire didnt go down and the one with the plane crash you claim that the towers were brought down by explosives?
                                                      Wait seriously tell me, am i ready this correctly??

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                                                      • Phoenix
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by WarChild
                                                        ah..duh

                                                        i know you must have thought long and hard about your response here.

                                                        i mean...i know it is confusing with all the scientific thought flowing from the video...dont worry man...you can copy of my answer sheet and we will let you pass the class
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                                                        • Dirty F
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                          do some research you twit..there are many instances of fires burning much hotter and for much longer and no buildings fell.
                                                          So imbecile, did a fucking big ass plane crash into that building as well? Or is that just MINOR detail that shouldnt matter when it comes to buildings collapsing.

                                                          So same question for you: You are comparing 2 buildings where one was on fire and the other had a plane crash into it and because the one that was one fire didnt collapse it means the wtc was bombed??

                                                          Please, just a yes or no.
                                                          Last edited by Dirty F; 04-13-2007, 07:03 AM.

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                                                          • StuartD
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                                                            So imbecile, are you saying you are comparing 2 incidents. One building with a fire and one building where a fucking big plane destroyed a few floors and based on the fact that the one with the fire didnt go down and the one with the plane crash you claim that the towers were brought down by explosives?
                                                            Wait seriously tell me, am i ready this correctly??
                                                            So your best argument against anything is to immediately call them an imbecile? And you wonder why you don't win debates?

                                                            And I claimed it came down by explosives? When did this happen? Are you suddenly coming up with your own theories?

                                                            Am I reading this correctly?

                                                            If you can't understand what I say, how can you possibly claim to ever understand the findings of an expert engineer??
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                                                            • Dirty F
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                                                              #31
                                                              Phoenix, you havent answered me yet: If the building collapsed at the speed of gravity but the debris fell faster. How fast did the debris fell? Faster than the speed of gravity? Please explain. Im highly interested how that works exactly.

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                                                              • Phoenix
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                                                                So imbecile, did a fucking big ass plane crash into that building as well? Or is that just MINOR detail that shouldnt matter when it comes to buildings collapsing.

                                                                So same question for you: You are comparing 2 buildings where one was on fire and the other had a plane crash into it and because the one that was one fire didnt collapse it means the wtc was bombed??

                                                                Please, just a yes or no.
                                                                you asked multiple questions here..lol
                                                                a yes and no answere is not fitting..but i dont expect you to understand such minor things like that.


                                                                basic answer: the buildings were not that bothered from the plane crashes...they were made of steel and meshed together like a mosquito net.
                                                                building 7 fell with no pane and hardly any fire..lol
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                                                                • 12clicks
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                                  thanks for putting some thought into your argument...we know that must encapsulate your total mental ability

                                                                  we thank you for your contribution

                                                                  but this thread is closed to morons...so please go try on a new skirt or something
                                                                  no, no, really, I'm laughing WITH you.
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                                                                  • Martin
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    hmmmmm who to believe twinky frank or the guys who built the buildings who say that the planes couldn't bring the towers down?? thats a tough one.

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                                                                    • Phoenix
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                                                                      Phoenix, you havent answered me yet: If the building collapsed at the speed of gravity but the debris fell faster. How fast did the debris fell? Faster than the speed of gravity? Please explain. Im highly interested how that works exactly.
                                                                      Franck..you know you are helping out..thanks man.

                                                                      only one way for debris to fall faster then gravity my friend..and that is if theywere ejected with a much bigger force IE explosions.


                                                                      the explosions that went off are what is causing stuff to fall faster then the speed of gravity..the explosions also caused plane sized pieces of steel to fly hundreds of metres horizontally.
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                                                                      • Dirty F
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                                        basic answer: the buildings were not that bothered from the plane crashes...
                                                                        And this is where is stop posting in thread thread because you are completely fucking delusional and insane and talking to someone like you makes as much sense as talking to a wall. Let me repeat that one more time: You are completely fucked in your head. Totally fucking completely crazy.

                                                                        Im out of this thread. Have fun.

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                                                                        • Phoenix
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                          no, no, really, I'm laughing WITH you.
                                                                          who cares what you do...why dont you go make yourself feel good elsewhere

                                                                          maybe try to belittle someone in public as you so often like to do.
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                                                                          • Phoenix
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            what about the guys laying upgraded internet cable the weekend before?
                                                                            everyone out of the building and no cameras or anything as all power is off.

                                                                            face it people...you been hoodwinkled
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                                                                            • Phoenix
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIgoXQWiSlM
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                                                                              • 12clicks
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Phoenix

                                                                                maybe try to belittle someone in public as you so often like to do.
                                                                                man, I love your total lack of self awareness.
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                                                                                • Phoenix
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                  man, I love your total lack of self awareness.
                                                                                  yes yes funny funny.

                                                                                  this is a controversial subject and it needs to be brought to light.


                                                                                  were they really just laying new internet cable the weekend before it went down?
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                                                                                  • StuartD
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Martin
                                                                                    hmmmmm who to believe twinky frank or the guys who built the buildings who say that the planes couldn't bring the towers down?? thats a tough one.
                                                                                    Yeah, tough call. Franck is almost always right, and should he ever find himself not being right, he tends to just leave threads entirely.
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                                                                                    • WarChild
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Fuck, I was just going to leave for my run when I realized that they upgraded the internet cabling in my house last week. I'm afraid of a false flag operation on my den while I'm out!
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                                                                                      • Phoenix
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                        Fuck, I was just going to leave for my run when I realized that they upgraded the internet cabling in my house last week. I'm afraid of a false flag operation on my den while I'm out!
                                                                                        well did they cut all powere to security cameras?

                                                                                        btw..the towers already had high end internet cabling
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                                                                                        • Martin
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                                                          I like the old lady at the end..lol

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                                                                                          • WarChild
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                                                            well did they cut all powere to security cameras?

                                                                                            btw..the towers already had high end internet cabling
                                                                                            Not to worry, we have removed all networking capability from the Battlestar WarChild just to be safe. Wait a second, Dreidus hit!

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                                                                                            • scottybuzz
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              pheonix stfu u dumb cunt. instead of researching this bollocks on youtube, do your own reserch instead of piggybacking on some 18 year old.
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                                                                                              • Mr Steele
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Paul Laffoley, one of the guys who designed and worked on building the original WTC's for 18 months, claims that there were explosives originally built into the buildings due to the fact that so many buildings were going up and down in those days.

                                                                                                http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/03/356342.shtml
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                                                  The official story is that the fires caused the collapse, not the initial collision. But you know that, you're an expert on the subject.
                                                                                                  Isn't the official conclusion a combination of both?
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                                                                                                  • uno
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                                                                    do some research you twit..there are many instances of fires burning much hotter and for much longer and no buildings fell.
                                                                                                    The WTC had a pretty unique design.
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