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  • Si
    Such Fun!
    • Feb 2008
    • 13900

    #1

    Are you seriously considering Paxum and Payoneer?

    If so why?

    Payoneer support sucks! it has been posted in more threads this week than sexy pictures of juicy d links have been posted since he joined gfy.

    Paxum APPEARS to run out of a po box in montreal with a bunch of failed program reps pushing it.

    What the fuck are you guys thinking?
  • halfpint
    GFY's Halfpint
    • Jun 2007
    • 15223

    #2
    Well i see a lot of people will get burnt yet again for playing with fire ..some people just never learn

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    • BloodFart
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2004
      • 728

      #3
      nope and nope
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      • Jarmusch
         
        • May 2003
        • 12479

        #4
        What do you recommend?

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        • trannysphere
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2010
          • 519

          #5
          add cashX.com as well

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          • mikesinner
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2005
            • 5646

            #6
            Fucking idiots. Get paid by checks or look for another line of work. People in this industry will always fuck you. Using a payment processor just puts another person in the loop and doubles your chances of being screwed.

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            • Domain Broker
              So Fucking Banned
              • Oct 2004
              • 2427

              #7
              Originally posted by mikesinner
              Fucking idiots. Get paid by checks or look for another line of work. People in this industry will always fuck you. Using a payment processor just puts another person in the loop and doubles your chances of being screwed.
              It is a real pain in the ass for webmasters in foreign countries to fuck with checks, are you out of the loop?

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              • BloodFart
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2004
                • 728

                #8
                Originally posted by Domain Broker
                It is a real pain in the ass for webmasters in foreign countries to fuck with checks, are you out of the loop?
                whats worse? delays or just losing everything? no brainer.
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                • mikesinner
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 5646

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Domain Broker
                  It is a real pain in the ass for webmasters in foreign countries to fuck with checks, are you out of the loop?
                  I realize this but you're going to get screwed again so be ready. There is a reason everyone used epass instead of something like paypal that is more popular. Mainstream doesn't like adult.

                  That means any payment processor that will work will have to be run by industry people, which means you will be fucked again because there is a shady element to this biz that will never go away.

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                  • Domain Broker
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 2427

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BloodFart
                    whats worse? delays or just losing everything? no brainer.
                    delays.

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                    • mikesinner
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 5646

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BloodFart
                      whats worse? delays or just losing everything? no brainer.
                      They also have to deal with insane charges to cash foreign checks. It's not the same in the U.S.

                      Still in the long run you might lose more money. I will never use another payment processor again.

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                      • Tempest
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • May 2004
                        • 10217

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Si
                        If so why?

                        Payoneer support sucks! it has been posted in more threads this week than sexy pictures of juicy d links have been posted since he joined gfy.

                        Paxum APPEARS to run out of a po box in montreal with a bunch of failed program reps pushing it.

                        What the fuck are you guys thinking?
                        And which do you recommend?

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                        • Tempest
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • May 2004
                          • 10217

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mikesinner
                          Fucking idiots. Get paid by checks or look for another line of work. People in this industry will always fuck you. Using a payment processor just puts another person in the loop and doubles your chances of being screwed.
                          Here's the thing... 2-3 weeks to get the cheque. $5 to deposit each one.. 20 days for it to clear.. While you're waiting, the company can go under and/or the cheque bounces etc.

                          Something like epass, get the cash immediately, drive to the ATM and withdraw it. Course the timing of this fiasco was fantastic in terms of money having just been deposited from sponsors.

                          There's risks with absolutely everything. The faster I can get the cash in my hands and into my own bank the better and epass was great for that. If a sponsor was going to fuck you, you knew right away as opposed to having to wait several weeks.

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                          • Jaeger
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 567

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mikesinner
                            They also have to deal with insane charges to cash foreign checks. It's not the same in the U.S.

                            Still in the long run you might lose more money. I will never use another payment processor again.
                            exactly the fees are high... also things get lost in the mail occasionally. Or even i lose the odd cheque just through stupidity (not often but even one every couple of years is annoying).

                            Half of us here i would guess are not US based so yeah ill use cheques but i dun like it
                            been in this industry since 2002.. gettin' too old for this shit..

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                            • epitome
                              So Fucking Lame
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 12156

                              #15
                              I am going to use wires and checks ... I am in the US.

                              The designer I use in Russia is going to use Payoneer.

                              Some folks don't have a choice.

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                              • Jaeger
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 567

                                #16
                                also Paxum's fees are cheaper than Payoneer I am told, and they actually have ok support so yeah why not Paxum.

                                For some reason i get a bad feeling about Payoneer...
                                been in this industry since 2002.. gettin' too old for this shit..

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                                • PornMD
                                  Mainstream Businessman
                                  • Jan 2007
                                  • 9291

                                  #17
                                  I'm going to wait until the dust settles and see what/who's left, which probably means I'm going to shift focus entirely to mainstream domains for the next few months, which considering I've sold over 100 mainstream domains and only 1 adult domain in the past month (thank you Epass ), that's an easy decision to make.
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                                  • icymelon
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2007
                                    • 3220

                                    #18
                                    those are the 2 companies I am not concidering
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                                    • CashX
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                                      • Sep 2010
                                      • 134

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by trannysphere
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                                      Why is that?? We offer more funding and withdraw methods then these two combined and sending and receiving funds between members is FREE. We offer multi-currency transactions, ACH/EFT, etc. We also have an option to load your funds directly onto your credit cards coming in a weeks time!

                                      Like what the heck more do you guys need? and we are a REGISTERED MSB in Canada and the USA? I wonder what the banks are going to do when they check these guys out and find out that they are not listed or registered to handle money? Hmmm, hope you have your funds out before that happens!...just do your DD, thats all I'm saying here guys, check this stuff out first.
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                                      • MobiusMike
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2010
                                        • 123

                                        #20
                                        I've monitored several threads concerning alternatives to e-Passporte. I believe that all of the alternatives represent a certain amount of risk. Many of them are following the same or similar business models to e-Passporte.

                                        Specifically, you have wallets that allow affiliate programs to load funds into their wallets and transfer those funds to wallets owned by the recipients for withdrawal from a card product.

                                        Until a company comes along that provides assurances that their internal transfer systems operate in compliance with regulatory best practices (AML, SAR, OFAC, et al) and ensure that their services aren't used for Gambling or other proscribed business models there will continue to be a significant risk of loss to both program operators and affiliates.

                                        These assurances could be provided by conducting regularly scheduled independent audits of the company's internal operations, controls and risk management that are published to wallet holders. Further, regular financial disclosure would allow users to feel more secure about the company holding their walleted funds.

                                        These disclosures are required of banks in the U.S. and almost every international jurisdiction has regulatory oversight requirements established by their respective central banks. As private companies, these wallets are operating in a shadowy area that requires no regular review or disclosure other than the PCI compliance and basic compliance required by the card associations to issue a branded card product.

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                                        • Argos88
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Sep 2009
                                          • 1732

                                          #21
                                          what will happen with all the personal information and ID info and personal account and CCs stored in EPASS?

                                          All people worry about the money... BUT they are forgetting this very important point. .personal data...

                                          I wonder what will happen to that HUGE database with sensible information....

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                                          • v4 media
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2005
                                            • 2934

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Argos88
                                            what will happen with all the personal information and ID info and personal account and CCs stored in EPASS?

                                            All people worry about the money... BUT they are forgetting this very important point. .personal data...

                                            I wonder what will happen to that HUGE database with sensible information....

                                            ----
                                            Exactly... All those Indian call centre employees that lost their job will happily sell your data, happened to some big UK banks that outsourced to India.

                                            Don't worry about the $1k in your account worry about the car loans, mortgages and creditcards being ordered in your name with all your gov id's.

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                                            • bufferover
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jan 2004
                                              • 25211

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Domain Broker
                                              It is a real pain in the ass for webmasters in foreign countries to fuck with checks, are you out of the loop?

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                                              • jimmycastor
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Jul 2006
                                                • 342

                                                #24
                                                im still waiting for a 500$ naughty america cheque and since 2 years they telling me they send it out next week ..such things never happend with epass

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                                                • ThumbLord
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2009
                                                  • 1932

                                                  #25
                                                  No although I am a none US webmaster.
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                                                  • Dreamteam
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2010
                                                    • 472

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Si
                                                    If so why?

                                                    Payoneer support sucks! it has been posted in more threads this week than sexy pictures of juicy d links have been posted since he joined gfy.

                                                    Paxum APPEARS to run out of a po box in montreal with a bunch of failed program reps pushing it.

                                                    What the fuck are you guys thinking?
                                                    Ill use both + one more ...

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                                                    • Dreamteam
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2010
                                                      • 472

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by mikesinner
                                                      Fucking idiots. Get paid by checks or look for another line of work. People in this industry will always fuck you. Using a payment processor just puts another person in the loop and doubles your chances of being screwed.
                                                      epassporte system made me millions in the past 7 years ...
                                                      (Did you notice the 'S' at the end of 'million' ?)

                                                      So I've lost $6000 and I won millions ...
                                                      Not a bad deal in my book

                                                      So whos the idiot here huh? hahahah
                                                      Last edited by Dreamteam; 09-25-2010, 01:50 AM.

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                                                      • Agent 488
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                        • 22511

                                                        #28
                                                        i've had more problems with bounced, missing checks or checks with the wrong info on them than epass payments.

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                                                        • seeandsee
                                                          Check SIG!
                                                          • Mar 2006
                                                          • 50945

                                                          #29
                                                          payoneer need to add super support, p2p and lower feees and they will rule into adult industry, why they don't do it? i dont fucking know!
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                                                          • Sid70
                                                            Downshifter
                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                            • 16413

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by epitome
                                                            I am going to use wires and checks ... I am in the US.

                                                            The designer I use in Russia is going to use Payoneer.

                                                            Some folks don't have a choice.
                                                            What he said.
                                                            Simple answer is to quickly get $$ and micropayments from the customer non US based designers have to use systems like alertpay or cashx.
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                                                            • Sid70
                                                              Downshifter
                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                              • 16413

                                                              #31
                                                              Is it just me or Pimproll banner in the bottom uses 3d tech as of it looks blurry to me?
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                                                              • Ethersync
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2008
                                                                • 5289

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by mikesinner
                                                                Fucking idiots. Get paid by checks or look for another line of work.
                                                                Sorry, but that's just ignorant. It may work for you, but it does not for people located outside of North America.
                                                                The best ePassporte replacement I have found: OKPAY

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                                                                • Klen
                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                  • 32234

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I'l do following-payoneer for small amounts,wire for big amounts.Very simple.

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                                                                  • halfpint
                                                                    GFY's Halfpint
                                                                    • Jun 2007
                                                                    • 15223

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Ill give it another 5-6 years and these online adult payment systems will come full circle again The fact is Banks, Visa and Mastercard do not like $$$ from adult because it is so high risk.

                                                                    As I have said in another thread I am now even getting problems with an international bank cashing checks from an adult ad network, which I never had problems with before.

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                                                                    • Si
                                                                      Such Fun!
                                                                      • Feb 2008
                                                                      • 13900

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I'm going for cashx.com and okpay.com

                                                                      CashX looks like the best out of all of these soloutions though. And the banking system they have in place appears to be a lot safer than what the other systems are using.

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                                                                      • Chris
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                        • 27880

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Si
                                                                        If so why?

                                                                        Payoneer support sucks! it has been posted in more threads this week than sexy pictures of juicy d links have been posted since he joined gfy.

                                                                        Paxum APPEARS to run out of a po box in montreal with a bunch of failed program reps pushing it.

                                                                        What the fuck are you guys thinking?
                                                                        Si, I can assure you Paxum is not working out of a PO Box.
                                                                        Kenny B is indeed coming out the office to meet with the President of the company.
                                                                        [email protected]

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                                                                        • FighterSpirit
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                                          • 259

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I use payoneer few years now and I will ALSO now use paxum

                                                                          what is problem

                                                                          show must go on ;)
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                                                                          • willwank
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Sep 2006
                                                                            • 628

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Jaeger
                                                                            also Paxum's fees are cheaper than Payoneer I am told, and they actually have ok support so yeah why not Paxum.

                                                                            For some reason i get a bad feeling about Payoneer...
                                                                            Ppl should do their own due diligence on Payoneer.
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                                                                            • Chris
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 27880

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by willwank
                                                                              Ppl should do their own due diligence on Payoneer.
                                                                              Agreed 100% We are here to answer any questions or address any concerns anyone may have regarding Paxum.
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                                                                              • gumdrop
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                • 482

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Oh dear sooooo many options what to do now?
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                                                                                • Tempest
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                                  • 10217

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Si
                                                                                  I'm going for cashx.com and okpay.com

                                                                                  CashX looks like the best out of all of these soloutions though. And the banking system they have in place appears to be a lot safer than what the other systems are using.
                                                                                  hmmmm.. I never really looked at CashX.. The name just made it sound like some sleazy operation that wanted to say XXX but decided to just go with the single X. LOL..

                                                                                  However, I finally had a look at it seems a lot better than I thought... And in fact it apprears they're Canadian and in fact just a few hours drive from me. Seems odd that they'd be in Vernon instead of Vancouver or Victoria.

                                                                                  Have they ever made an anouncement on here and said who they really are, who their banks are, where they're all located, who's behind the company, what their history is and whether or not they understand/know the adult business or not?

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                                                                                  • Si
                                                                                    Such Fun!
                                                                                    • Feb 2008
                                                                                    • 13900

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Tempest

                                                                                    Have they ever made an anouncement on here and said who they really are, who their banks are, where they're all located, who's behind the company, what their history is and whether or not they understand/know the adult business or not?
                                                                                    Yes, search for the user CashX or the other thread i started titles "another payment alternative - cash x"

                                                                                    They have banks set-up in canada, us, uk, and australia I believe is what I read.

                                                                                    Let me try and find you the link

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                                                                                    • Si
                                                                                      Such Fun!
                                                                                      • Feb 2008
                                                                                      • 13900

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=987950

                                                                                      Thats the CashX thread

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                                                                                      • Tempest
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                                        • 10217

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Si
                                                                                        Yes, search for the user CashX or the other thread i started titles "another payment alternative - cash x"

                                                                                        They have banks set-up in canada, us, uk, and australia I believe is what I read.

                                                                                        Let me try and find you the link
                                                                                        Yeah, I went thru that.. But that was you talking about them, not them making their own announcement with all the pertinent info we'd be interested in.

                                                                                        The one issue with pretty much all of the choices out there is that they're not industry people... Now some might say that could be a benefit. However, if you're in the industry, then you'll at least attempt to make sure everything you've set up will handle adult businesses in terms of your banking arrangements etc. If you're an outsider, then it's not as much of a concern and so you wouldn't put in the extra effort to keep that alive if the shit hit the fan. There's a big difference between going to a bank and saying we're dealing with "porn", would you partner with us, as opposed to getting into the porn biz and then letting your bank know after the fact.

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                                                                                        • CashX
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Sep 2010
                                                                                          • 134

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Tempest
                                                                                          Yeah, I went thru that.. But that was you talking about them, not them making their own announcement with all the pertinent info we'd be interested in.

                                                                                          The one issue with pretty much all of the choices out there is that they're not industry people... Now some might say that could be a benefit. However, if you're in the industry, then you'll at least attempt to make sure everything you've set up will handle adult businesses in terms of your banking arrangements etc. If you're an outsider, then it's not as much of a concern and so you wouldn't put in the extra effort to keep that alive if the shit hit the fan. There's a big difference between going to a bank and saying we're dealing with "porn", would you partner with us, as opposed to getting into the porn biz and then letting your bank know after the fact.
                                                                                          We are in the "Payment Processing Industry" and that is what your want! So we do know what types of industries that we can process for and what banks are open to this type of business.
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                                                                                          • Chris
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                                            • 27880

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by CashX
                                                                                            We are in the "Payment Processing Industry" and that is what your want! So we do know what types of industries that we can process for and what banks are open to this type of business.
                                                                                            By industry people - he means a company ran by people who know this industry and what we need. Epassporte WAS that. Now we feel we can be that.
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                                                                                            • Dreamteam
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2010
                                                                                              • 472

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Ill give paxum a bump here


                                                                                              Great system guys ... congrats

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                                                                                              • Rui
                                                                                                web
                                                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                                                • 9533

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                This reminds me of the abused housewife that keeps coming back for more...

                                                                                                Some people never learn.

                                                                                                Also wouldn't put Payoneer on the same page as Paxum, the first is broadly used and has a reputation (despite shitty support) and is used by many mainstream programs..the 2nd..well don't even want to get into it..

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                                                                                                • Si
                                                                                                  Such Fun!
                                                                                                  • Feb 2008
                                                                                                  • 13900

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Rui
                                                                                                  This reminds me of the abused housewife that keeps coming back for more...

                                                                                                  Some people never learn.

                                                                                                  Also wouldn't put Payoneer on the same page as Paxum, the first is broadly used and has a reputation (despite shitty support) and is used by many mainstream programs..the 2nd..well don't even want to get into it..
                                                                                                  Good point on payoneer, they do have a good rep.

                                                                                                  But no easy to use P2P system and shit support put me right off them.

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                                                                                                  • signupdamnit
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                                                                                                    • Aug 2007
                                                                                                    • 6697

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Domain Broker
                                                                                                    It is a real pain in the ass for webmasters in foreign countries to fuck with checks, are you out of the loop?
                                                                                                    I would probably set my minimum payment at $1,000 and opt for a wire rather than use these guys. Bad vibes. That still leaves the p2p issue I realize.
                                                                                                    Last edited by signupdamnit; 09-27-2010, 08:53 AM.

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