After The Epass Shit I Hope You All Learned Your Lesson

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  • mikesinner
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2005
    • 5646

    #1

    After The Epass Shit I Hope You All Learned Your Lesson

    Having a third party hold your money is just stupid when you can get a check.

    I hope you guys aren't going to run to new middle men.

    I for one am changing everything over to check. If you're a sponsor and you can't pay by check I will no longer promote you and I'll be changing or removing my links.

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  • DEA - banned for life
    V.I.P.
    • Nov 2004
    • 7886

    #2
    lol yeah right

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    • Agent 488
      Registered User
      • Feb 2006
      • 22511

      #3
      buy your mom a trailer yet?

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      • Jarmusch
         
        • May 2003
        • 12479

        #4
        Originally posted by mikesinner
        Having a third party hold your money is just stupid when you can get a check.
        Good advice, for US webmasters only.

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        • a2000
          Registered User
          • Mar 2002
          • 62

          #5
          Check is safe ? Hmm, it can be lost, you can have car accident during your travel to bank, ufo can steal it etc. I think safest way is to walk personally to sponsor, take your money in gold nuggets and put them under your pillow.
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          • BIGTYMER
            Junior Achiever
            • Nov 2004
            • 17066

            #6
            Just keep a small balance at all times. Don't think of it as a bank account.

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            • Jarmusch
               
              • May 2003
              • 12479

              #7
              A better advice would be to continue using an e-money system, but make withdrawals on a regular basis. Then either deposit it on your bank or stuff it under your mattress, whichever you prefer.

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              • CaptainHowdy
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Dec 2004
                • 94052

                #8
                Have a great weekend everyone...

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                • 2012
                  So Fucking What
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 17189

                  #9
                  have crack, will travel .

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                  • mikesinner
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 5646

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jarmusch
                    A better advice would be to continue using an e-money system, but make withdrawals on a regular basis. Then either deposit it on your bank or stuff it under your mattress, whichever you prefer.
                    For many of us smaller webmasters $3-400 is still a nice chunk of money and having that much in a virtual account can't be helped when you can only draw out $300/day.

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                    • cambaby
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 3141

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mikesinner
                      Having a third party hold your money is just stupid when you can get a check. I hope you guys aren't going to run to new middle men. I for one am changing everything over to check. If you're a sponsor and you can't pay by check I will no longer promote you and I'll be changing or removing my links.
                      Saving up for that sex change operation I see, smart move Mike(or should I say Mickey).

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                      • mikesinner
                        Confirmed User
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 5646

                        #12
                        Originally posted by cambaby
                        Saving up for that sex change operation I see, smart move Mike(or should I say Mickey).
                        Fuck you man, you're the biggest idiot on this board. everyone laughs at you and you keep coming back here. That shows that you're also psychotic.

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                        • mikesinner
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                          • Nov 2005
                          • 5646

                          #13
                          I can't believe you guys are still looking for alternatives.

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                          • Jarmusch
                             
                            • May 2003
                            • 12479

                            #14
                            Try living in Europe for a while and deposit checks in USD, and you too will be looking for alternatives.

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                            • mikesinner
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 5646

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jarmusch
                              Try living in Europe for a while and deposit checks in USD, and you too will be looking for alternatives.
                              Enjoy getting screwed by the next industry run bro payment processor.

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                              • Kiopa_Matt
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 1448

                                #16
                                But isn't a check also allowing a third party to hold your money (temporarily)?

                                You still have to make sure your sponsor gives you the check, and has the account balance to back it up.
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                                • papill0n
                                  Unregistered Abuser
                                  • Oct 2007
                                  • 15547

                                  #17
                                  mike why dont you tell us the points story and how despite an entire forum tellling you you would lose your money you continued on anyways and ultimately lost all your money

                                  hope you have learned your lesson

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                                  • mikesinner
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2005
                                    • 5646

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by papill0n
                                    mike why dont you tell us the points story and how despite an entire forum tellling you you would lose your money you continued on anyways and ultimately lost all your money

                                    hope you have learned your lesson
                                    Dude, you are so out of the loop. I didn't collect all that money over years. It took me less than a year to get most of it from epass transfers. No one said anything to me until I passed 3k.

                                    If anything everyone was transferring points to me without saying anything. Just shows you how scummy a lot of people in this industry are on both sides of the business.

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                                    • Dirty Dane
                                      Sick Fuck
                                      • Feb 2004
                                      • 9491

                                      #19
                                      Already knew this could happen so I only used it for smaller payments and withdraw fast. For bigger weekly payments I use SWIFT.

                                      Sponsors however must fund with bigger amounts. Hopefully not too many of them are stucked.

                                      Don't put all eggs in one basket. And that means ANYTHING related to this business.
                                      Last edited by Dirty Dane; 09-24-2010, 07:32 PM.

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                                      • Coup
                                        🚨 PBBC International 🚨
                                        • Apr 2010
                                        • 9931

                                        #20
                                        epass is top notch. I'm sure they will have all this worked out soon.

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                                        • mikesinner
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2005
                                          • 5646

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Coup
                                          epass is top notch. I'm sure they will have all this worked out soon.
                                          It's been to long. They have already lost too much support. They will never come back from this even if everything is fixed tomorrow.

                                          I'm just surprised that everyone is running to get another middle man.

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                                          • Loch
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 7674

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by mikesinner
                                            Having a third party hold your money is just stupid when you can get a check.

                                            I hope you guys aren't going to run to new middle men.

                                            I for one am changing everything over to check. If you're a sponsor and you can't pay by check I will no longer promote you and I'll be changing or removing my links.
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                                            Your money is safe as long as its not with an online bank right?

                                            Omg lol

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                                            • mikesinner
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2005
                                              • 5646

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Loch
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                                              Your money is safe as long as its not with an online bank right?

                                              Omg lol
                                              No but as I said, invariably any payment processor that works for adult is going to be run by adult industry people so you now have 2x chances of being screwed.

                                              Any company in mainstream that deals with adult is going to find an excuse to screw them so you've got to run it through industry connections.

                                              Unless you get one of the big programs with an almost stellar reputation to step up and start their own payment processor where their own company is on the line if it goes under you're going to get fucked.

                                              Of course no one is going to do that because they know the bank could fuck them.
                                              Last edited by mikesinner; 09-24-2010, 08:08 PM.

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                                              • icymelon
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                                                • Dec 2007
                                                • 3220

                                                #24
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                                                • lagcam
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2007
                                                  • 2890

                                                  #25
                                                  i think you are almost right mikesinner, but better go the whole way, and put a notice on your sites telling the customers you refer to affiliate programs to deduct your commission from their membership fee of the programs you support and send you a check direct... hmmmm or better cash, can't trust banks either.
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                                                  • Agent 488
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • Feb 2006
                                                    • 22511

                                                    #26
                                                    fuck that going back to hahahahahahaha points.

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                                                    • seeandsee
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                                                      • Mar 2006
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                                                      #27
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                                                      • Agent 488
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                        • 22511

                                                        #28
                                                        checks: slow, high fees and holds outside the US, bounce, get lost, have the wrong information on them.

                                                        i'm not going to send a $50 check to some guy in slovakia to try out some links or traffic.

                                                        it's 2010. checks suck.

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