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  • Twisted Dave
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2006
    • 3635

    #1

    So I joined Suicide Girls ...

    Actually ... I bought Perrie (TwistedGirl) one ... she loves Suicide Girls. And I thought, fuck it, I'll buy one too :P

    So we both have accounts.

    Ok, firstly... it's not a straight ahead softporn site... it's a massive community. It has private profiles that other members can speak to you with ... almost like MySpace, but 10 times better because it has less allowance to the user to fuck their profile up ... it has image albums per user too. When you look at a SG's images, it pops up a viewer that is also used when the normal members have images... quite nice.

    Also, it's got discussion forums etc.

    And of course, over 1000 girls.

    Video... images... etc.

    Some people dislike the concept behind it ... and until now, I was not really sure. But... I actually think it's great.

    Now that I have real experience with it... It rules

    And Perrie is happy too So that's all that matters


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  • RogerV
    Banned!
    • Jul 2002
    • 12591

    #2
    www.InkandPink.com rules

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    • layinglow
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2006
      • 127

      #3
      Originally posted by RogerV
      that peice site of shit isn't even on SG's radar
      adult changed my life. here's some motivation for you- my rags to riches story

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      • Humpy Leftnut
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2007
        • 1292

        #4
        They have an affil program too. Doesn't pay much per sale though
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        • Clark
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2003
          • 334

          #5
          I would have given you a free acct at GodsGirls.com ... but now you sound like an SG zombie
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          • Z
            Vidi Vici Veni
            • Nov 2002
            • 6308

            #6
            I'm a big SG fan...I LOVE that kind of girl.

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            • igotmeg
              Registered User
              • Feb 2007
              • 79

              #7
              I WANT A GG account! :D plz and thx
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              • Twisted Dave
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2006
                • 3635

                #8
                Originally posted by Clark
                I would have given you a free acct at GodsGirls.com ... but now you sound like an SG zombie

                Hey man ... we did do you a kick ass toon ;) You really should hit me up on ICQ about that GG account Perrie and me are big fans of the girls there

                Don't forget me


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                • vvq
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                  • Feb 2004
                  • 2732

                  #9
                  too bad they miss out on tons of revenue because they don't wanna be associated with the adult industry. fuck 'em.

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                  • KrisKross
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 5025

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Clark
                    I would have given you a free acct at GodsGirls.com ... but now you sound like an SG zombie


                    I'd love a free GodsGirls account. I'm a huge fan of Apneatic and Dahlia

                    Annaliese mentioned that you had an affiliate program in the works. Any news on that? And will it be more webmaster-friendly than SG's program?

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                    • KrisKross
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 5025

                      #11
                      Originally posted by vvq
                      too bad they miss out on tons of revenue because they don't wanna be associated with the adult industry. fuck 'em.
                      I wouldn't say a site with somewhere in the ballpark of 20000 active members who recur for years and 1100+ models to be missing out on much of anything.

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                      • GigoloMason
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2005
                        • 742

                        #12
                        Originally posted by KrisKross
                        I wouldn't say a site with somewhere in the ballpark of 20000 active members who recur for years and 1100+ models to be missing out on much of anything.
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                        • ninavain
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 6268

                          #13
                          Originally posted by twisted Illustration
                          Actually ... I bought Perrie (TwistedGirl) one ... she loves Suicide Girls. And I thought, fuck it, I'll buy one too :P

                          So we both have accounts.

                          Ok, firstly... it's not a straight ahead softporn site... it's a massive community. It has private profiles that other members can speak to you with ... almost like MySpace, but 10 times better because it has less allowance to the user to fuck their profile up ... it has image albums per user too. When you look at a SG's images, it pops up a viewer that is also used when the normal members have images... quite nice.

                          Also, it's got discussion forums etc.

                          And of course, over 1000 girls.

                          Video... images... etc.

                          Some people dislike the concept behind it ... and until now, I was not really sure. But... I actually think it's great.

                          Now that I have real experience with it... It rules

                          And Perrie is happy too So that's all that matters
                          well just be ready to never be able to cancel your membership unless you cancel your credit card..They make it impossible to cancel

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                          • Sultry_Selenia
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                            • Jul 2006
                            • 337

                            #14
                            Originally posted by KrisKross

                            Annaliese mentioned that you had an affiliate program in the works. Any news on that? And will it be more webmaster-friendly than SG's program?
                            I'd love to know this as well.
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                            • Twisted Dave
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                              • Mar 2006
                              • 3635

                              #15
                              Originally posted by vvq
                              too bad they miss out on tons of revenue because they don't wanna be associated with the adult industry. fuck 'em.
                              Well, this thread isn't really a business thread.

                              I couldn't give two shits if they don't wanna be associated.

                              To be honest, if you've ever used the site, you'll know, it's far from porn. It's much more alternative erotica which is a different thing really. It's just nudes at it's most extreme. In this day and age, nudes can happily, if marketed right, be mainstream.

                              Hell, the Suicide Girls burlesque show just went on tour with Guns N' Roses last year.

                              So I actually don't see why they'd wanna be associated with the adult industry officially.

                              And I also don't see why you say "fuck em" because of it...

                              I like the site, and I like the concept. And I'm not a webmaster, so I can appreciate it from just one point of view instead of worrying about making any $$$ from it :P


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                              • Twisted Dave
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                                • Mar 2006
                                • 3635

                                #16
                                Originally posted by ninavain
                                well just be ready to never be able to cancel your membership unless you cancel your credit card..They make it impossible to cancel
                                1) I can't imagine wanting to cancel it ...

                                2) if I do... I'll do it via my bank. I guarantee you I wont have a problem My bank allows me to cancel everything or put blocks on stuff


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                                • tenderobject
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                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 11688

                                  #17
                                  i would want to fuck one of them


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                                  • _Rush_
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2006
                                    • 742

                                    #18
                                    I used to be a member because I really liked one of their girls (Quinne). Cancellation was also easy. And yes, I thought that it was a great site model.

                                    They don't want to be associated with adult because they're a "celebration of skin and ink", while we are merely pornographers :D
                                    No sig.

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                                    • tony299
                                      lurker
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 57021

                                      #19
                                      I always found them very innovative

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                                      • chupacabra
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Sep 2002
                                        • 3626

                                        #20
                                        suicide girls have some damn hot content, i loved the law & order (or was it CSI?) episode they did rocked..
                                        ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                        • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                          Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                                          • Jul 2004
                                          • 38323

                                          #21
                                          I've heard from models that the SG contract sucks...the pay isn't that good and this is made worse since they can't work for others...

                                          From Wikipedia:

                                          A primary issue is the SuicideGirls modeling contract, which prevents its models (including past models, for a time) from working for competing sites or agencies (specifically those dealing in nude photography and/or erotica).

                                          The standard modeling agreement for SuicideGirls includes a "Non-Competition" clause, barring any model that signs it from modeling for an "SG Competitor" during the one or more years in which the model is under contract with SuicideGirls, plus an additional two years.

                                          Many of the former models involved in the 2005 dispute are now involved with the competing sites GodsGirls, and Deviant Nation. Both sites have been sued by SuicideGirls LLC for hiring models who were allegedly still under contract with SuicideGirls and for allegedly violating SuicideGirls trademarks.

                                          Several former models were also threatened with legal action. As of June 2006, none of SuicideGirls LLC's lawsuits or threatened actions against former models or competing sites has resulted in a victory for the plaintiff.
                                          I went to check into this more on the SG web site and got this instead:



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                                          • KrisKross
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                                            • Jan 2006
                                            • 5025

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                            I've heard from models that the SG contract sucks...the pay isn't that good and this is made worse since they can't work for others...

                                            From Wikipedia:



                                            I went to check into this more on the SG web site and got this instead:



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                                            They pay $500 USD for a solo, softcore shoot where showing pink isn't mandatory. While I'm no content producer, I'm pretty sure that's above industry standard. If the set is shot by an official SG photographer, the photographer also gets either $200 or $300.

                                            The contract has since been updated. And it doesn't say that they can't work for anyone else, they simply can't work for competitors. Many SGs model on the site for other softcore/non-nude/mainstream sites. Not only that, many of them sell prints from other photographers through their SG journals. On top of that, they also sell loads of other goods and services through the site (for example, an SG in Vancouver makes great money selling synthetic dreads to other SGs and members).

                                            The site is actually down at the moment since they're in the process of adding a few new features as well as making modifications to the design/layout.

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                                            • QuaWee
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2004
                                              • 5791

                                              #23
                                              i never found those type of gals attractive until that site was created
                                              i luv mainstream

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                                              • MattO
                                                The O is for Oohhh
                                                • Feb 2003
                                                • 10861

                                                #24
                                                You would think that by now they'd offer their content in higher resolution. And their .mov files are too compressed, and much of their archived .mov files are corrupt and don't even work.

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                                                • Clark
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                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                  • 334

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by KrisKross
                                                  I'd love a free GodsGirls account. I'm a huge fan of Apneatic and Dahlia

                                                  Annaliese mentioned that you had an affiliate program in the works. Any news on that? And will it be more webmaster-friendly than SG's program?
                                                  GG is working on the affiliate program. It will be wm-friendly which is why I'm involved. However, it'll start out slowly, mostly for models to use, then bring on some of you heavy hitters.

                                                  email me clark AT nichebucks.com re: the acct
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                                                  • Clark
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                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                    • 334

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by twisted Illustration
                                                    Hey man ... we did do you a kick ass toon ;) You really should hit me up on ICQ about that GG account Perrie and me are big fans of the girls there

                                                    Don't forget me
                                                    I still need to get you to do another toon or two..
                                                    email me clark AT nichebucks.com re:the acct
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                                                    • Clark
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                      • 334

                                                      #27
                                                      KrisKross - maybe you should look into some of the girls that have left SG and how SG tried to enforce their bullshit model agreement. I wouldn't call them too model friendly considering once the sued a girl for working for GG, got a default judgement then tried to get a lien against her house...real classy. GG assisted her to get this overturned

                                                      btw- they didn't start paying $500 a set until about six mo. ago (post GG rise) and even then they might only buy one set a year from the girl..wow $500 and a 30 year exclusive contract..they must really care about the models

                                                      wish I could tell you more but you'll get to see much more when the GG v. SG lawsuit wraps up..plenty of public docs for everyone

                                                      ...really not in the spirit of Twisted thread...I apologize
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                                                      • Linkster
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                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                        • 3216

                                                        #28
                                                        Ive always thought Burning Angel was way far ahead of SG's - but then they do get hardcore which puts them in a different and better league
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                                                        • Halcyon
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                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                          • 8609

                                                          #29
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                                                          • RogerV
                                                            Banned!
                                                            • Jul 2002
                                                            • 12591

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by layinglow
                                                            that peice site of shit isn't even on SG's radar
                                                            give me 6 months and I'll blow them out of the water..

                                                            http://www.inkandpink.com/maintour.php/14/48/A

                                                            and

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                                                            • Clark
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                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 334

                                                              #31
                                                              Nice job with inkandpink.com Roger!
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                                                              • aico
                                                                Moo Moo Cow
                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                • 14748

                                                                #32
                                                                They are scammers and fuck the girls over every chance they get.

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                                                                • AaronM
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                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                  • 46917

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by vvq
                                                                  too bad they miss out on tons of revenue because they don't wanna be associated with the adult industry. fuck 'em.

                                                                  Well, when you're a decent size company who has a reputation of fucking people over then it's probably not in your best interest in associate with us pornographers who will end up outing you for your evil ways.

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                                                                  • AaronM
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                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                    • 46917

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by aico
                                                                    They are scammers and fuck the girls over every chance they get.


                                                                    What he said.

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                                                                    • Chris Corn
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                                      • 237

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Clark
                                                                      KrisKross - maybe you should look into some of the girls that have left SG and how SG tried to enforce their bullshit model agreement. I wouldn't call them too model friendly considering once the sued a girl for working for GG, got a default judgement then tried to get a lien against her house...real classy. GG assisted her to get this overturned

                                                                      btw- they didn't start paying $500 a set until about six mo. ago (post GG rise) and even then they might only buy one set a year from the girl..wow $500 and a 30 year exclusive contract..they must really care about the models

                                                                      wish I could tell you more but you'll get to see much more when the GG v. SG lawsuit wraps up..plenty of public docs for everyone

                                                                      ...really not in the spirit of Twisted thread...I apologize

                                                                      Ditto on these statements. Most of the sets get declined anyway for not being whatever it is that they want. Sometimes no reason is given or they aren't pink enough or whatever it is that they want. I know this first hand as I know a shooter who has submitted several times, mostly accepted and sometimes declined. $500 to the model and what does the photographer get? Answer: a by-line. They'd be lucky to get two sets up/year as they are so backlogged, they cant approve the sets fast enough anyway. Most of the models are retarded too, I've tried to work with a few and they are mostly headcases. Probably some good apples in the bunch, but if I find out they are SG girls, I give the work to someone else.
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                                                                      • IllTestYourGirls
                                                                        Ah My Balls
                                                                        • Feb 2007
                                                                        • 14311

                                                                        #36
                                                                        I took some pics for my ex GF for them

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                                                                        • MikeVega
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                                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                                          • 12788

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by RogerV
                                                                          give me 6 months and I'll blow them out of the water..

                                                                          http://www.inkandpink.com/maintour.php/14/48/A

                                                                          and
                                                                          Roger . I have to say that i love the site. in-fact I'm a bit jealous that it's not mine The design looks great. I'd love to get a temp pass to check it out. Those are my type of girls and the quality of content looks really good.

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                                                                          • IllTestYourGirls
                                                                            Ah My Balls
                                                                            • Feb 2007
                                                                            • 14311

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by RogerV
                                                                            RogerV contact me ICQ. I can help you kill them!

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                                                                            • Twisted Dave
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Mar 2006
                                                                              • 3635

                                                                              #39
                                                                              I'll say one thing in defence ...

                                                                              a LOT of the girls on SG do not want to be models. They just like to exhibit themselves and love the idea of being one. For the fun of it. I know quite a few girls who are/have been/want to be Suicide Girls ... and not one of them even considers the option of working for someone else.

                                                                              That said ... it sucks that there's so much negativity about it too


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                                                                              • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                                • 38323

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Although it was a bit of a threadjack, very impressive site there, RogerV...

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                                                                                • KrisKross
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                                                                                  • Jan 2006
                                                                                  • 5025

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Chris Corn
                                                                                  Ditto on these statements. Most of the sets get declined anyway for not being whatever it is that they want. Sometimes no reason is given or they aren't pink enough or whatever it is that they want. I know this first hand as I know a shooter who has submitted several times, mostly accepted and sometimes declined. $500 to the model and what does the photographer get? Answer: a by-line. They'd be lucky to get two sets up/year as they are so backlogged, they cant approve the sets fast enough anyway. Most of the models are retarded too, I've tried to work with a few and they are mostly headcases. Probably some good apples in the bunch, but if I find out they are SG girls, I give the work to someone else.
                                                                                  Loads of models are headcases, not just SGs. And official photographers get paid for the sets they shoot, even if the sets are rejected. They also often get travel expenses comped. A friend of mine shoots for SG for a living, which is more than a byline. If you're not an official photographer, you should be charging your models anyways.

                                                                                  As for the contracts and compensation; the majority of SGs are not doing it for the money. If you look through the group of hopeful SGs, you'll see that the most of them attribute something special to being an SG, as if it was a prestigious title or something (which I think is retarded, personally). Loads of them would forgo payment if it meant they'd become SGs.

                                                                                  Those who sought a modeling career outside the site and were subsequently sued definitely got a shitty deal. While I don't know the full details and I've heard loads of bullshit from both sides, the general consensus all around is that the whole situation was blown absurdly out of proportion by the people behind SG. Lawsuits are not a good way to win people over.

                                                                                  I'm not saying that the SG crew are angels or that the site has a spotless track record. I'm just saying that there are two sides to every coin.

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                                                                                  • RogerV
                                                                                    Banned!
                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                    • 12591

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by MikeVega
                                                                                    Roger . I have to say that i love the site. in-fact I'm a bit jealous that it's not mine The design looks great. I'd love to get a temp pass to check it out. Those are my type of girls and the quality of content looks really good.

                                                                                    Hook a brotha up ..
                                                                                    no prob.. had a death in the family so I'm out of town. when I get back I'll hook you

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                                                                                    • RogerV
                                                                                      Banned!
                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                      • 12591

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                                                      Although it was a bit of a threadjack, very impressive site there, RogerV...

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                                                                                      It was a threadjack cause I'm gunning for them..

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                                                                                      • AmeliaG
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                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                        • 10670

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Halcyon
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                                                                                        Aw thanks

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                                                                                        • vidvicious
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                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                          • 4765

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by MikeVega
                                                                                          Roger . I have to say that i love the site. in-fact I'm a bit jealous that it's not mine The design looks great. I'd love to get a temp pass to check it out. Those are my type of girls and the quality of content looks really good.

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