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Accusations aside, I am shocked that you would shoot for a program who has invalid 2257 statements up.
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Well....I would like to say that I agree with you but it's a grey area here. The company is not based in the US so they are not required by law to even post a 2257 declaration.
IMHO, hey should anyway.....But I don't make the laws or their company policies.Comment
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i agree.....
porn is all about the money, every business is about the money... as long as it is legal i say: fuck yeah, it is a great idea, make yourself stand in front of competition
the whole porn thing is objectification of human desires... most of the desired stuff has something to do with domination/manipulation/different forms of sadism/masochism... you name it... even watching porn is voyeurism -> who the hell wants to watch other people fuck (get beaten, exploited, humiliated, whatever...) ? somebody that is unable to fulfill his own sexual desires
so if people want it this makes them possible customers -> there would be no market for porn without demand for it
lets concentrate on making money, make those horny jerk-offs or porn maniacs pay the money for seeing shit they want to see, that's it... it is all $$$ business, nothing more, nothing lesssign up with AWEmpire
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Seems to me..
Lupe's taking advantage of the knowledge that she is has a very narrow window of opportunity... to be this young, this hot in this internet era.
I felt a little uneasy when I first saw her too , than I started thinking about the career this girl is launching for herself and cashing in bigtime. Sure she'll still pull in megabucks 10 years from now. -But right now she can make Shmega-bucks. You go girl!
Not many people can start on the web on their own, she needed somebody..Most of the top stars do at first. Should she be rejected because she looks too young? Thats agism isn't it?
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Damn! I want a password to make sure the members area is safe ;-)
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If your not promoting Little Lupe your losing nice $$$ She's Legal so why not promote her? oh yeah if the 2 links in my post wasnt enough, see sig
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I really hate CP in every form - it's disgusting ;(Comment
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Legal where? You might want to check the law where you are - it can be enlightening
Hell.. it ain't even "legal" according to US law - 2257 paperwork is shit.
Why not promote? You normally pander to pedos to earn your living?
PS And it sure ain't "legal" in Aruba.Last edited by Webby; 04-10-2007, 12:08 AM.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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The whole point that many of you are missing is the this type of content has been run into the ground what people want to see is a fresh face!
The problem is that there arent enough fresh faces in the business and when one pops up it only flys for a short time and then sales drop down back to where they were once at the bottom again.
We all know the standing of a models age should be 18.
However what you have to realize is that there are alot of underage models being filmed through out the world even as we speak!
Even more surprizing to you is that there are alot of people who would purchase these films and even market them.
My advice to every webmaster is to check your trades and check your trades trades because even though you may not promote such things chances are you are only a few sites away form someone who does!
Getting to the actual part of making money off this legal lupe lolita I would say live and learn I have and have found that those (teen type sites) like I said before are dime a dozen times 1000.
Here is a perfect example of a site that will go nowhere.
1.Generic name
2.Generic teen content
3=Generic sales http://www.hotfreeteens.com/main.html
If you want to waste your time with one of these sites go ahead Im not saying that it wont convert at all what Im saying is that it will be compared to as driving a hum V and trading it in for an Astro van.
Goodd luck and whatch your trades
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I have never seen so much bullshit in my life and why this thread was not locked is beyond me.
She is 18 = She is Legal.
Move along and promote her and make some $$$$.
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I agree with you the money and the legal part but as far as locking I dont I think so. This thread is a great way to show the world of our (LEGAL) practices and alot of new people can learn a great deal by it. and should be emailed to congress so they can all eat shit!Comment
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Why ban the guy. Its a shit site and he spoke his mind, fuck the legalities like they said fuck the ethics. And fuck the peanut gallery with their oos and ahhs.
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Sure - agree..The whole point that many of you are missing is the this type of content has been run into the ground what people want to see is a fresh face!
The problem is that there arent enough fresh faces in the business and when one pops up it only flys for a short time and then sales drop down back to where they were once at the bottom again.
We all know the standing of a models age should be 18.
However what you have to realize is that there are alot of underage models being filmed through out the world even as we speak!
Even more surprizing to you is that there are alot of people who would purchase these films and even market them.
Tho not surprised girls under 18 are shot under very varying circumstances (some of which are totally legal in certain jurisdictions). There is the magical US concept that 18 is the legal age, but that can vary a little.
Na... not surprised by the "clientele" - get feedback from folks involved in running fake sites to trap surfers, child protection and other activities they may end up trailing. This stuff is very common and 2257 blah pales into total insignificance - the "real" side ranges from child assaults thru to child murder. Hell... there is an operation going on for.. think over three years now and multi-jurisdictional where it's "known" certain folks have killed.. prob three kids (bodies never found) - but just lack enough evidence. Sadly, they will prob offend again, but hopefully be captured.
It's then ya realize this is what pandering to pedos actually means - and it's not helpful to others tracking em and can follow-on thru to more serious shit.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Amen to that!
I wish that not only would these sick fucks be captured but that the would make a public display of them tied to a post out in the town square where people could take turns throwing apples with razor blades at them,poking them with electric cattle prods,andbasically just torturing the shit out of them on public display on a daily basis.
I only wish that there was some sort of (Front door to the internet) that before you could post any kind of picture onto the net it would have to be govermently approved first...
If this was done then none of us would have to worry about any kind of legal bullshit involved in this industry.
If someone out there could come up with that kind of software program and market it to (all) governments (all) search engines not only would they become outragously rich beyond belief but this industry would flourish like a motherfucker!Comment
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*lol* Na... least in this instance, they will not have stuff like a death penality, but prob be imprisoned for a longish time or fowarded on to a mental institution. Can't remember all the background, but at least one is very open and "bold" in his outlook with verbal like - "the kids love it". Hell.. they are sick.Amen to that!
I wish that not only would these sick fucks be captured but that the would make a public display of them tied to a post out in the town square where people could take turns throwing apples with razor blades at them,poking them with electric cattle prods,andbasically just torturing the shit out of them on public display on a daily basis.
Gotta admit.. this was a shocker to me when I got a quick background - never thought people could be so damned evil towards kids and that has kinda influenced my outlook on anything hitting near this topic. Always thought it may be of use to people in the adult biz to be aware of "reality" in these scenarios - cos sure as hell, 90% don't know (the others prob know it from personal experience and may or may not admit it). Can think of a couple of LE people who would be willing to chat and explain what it means in real life - tho that would prob not be "appropriate" for any WM conference - too distasteful! *lol*
Danger there is state intervention and "management" and the introduction of censorship. Don't matter the country - rest assured it would be abused by any state.I only wish that there was some sort of (Front door to the internet) that before you could post any kind of picture onto the net it would have to be govermently approved first...
If this was done then none of us would have to worry about any kind of legal bullshit involved in this industry.
If someone out there could come up with that kind of software program and market it to (all) governments (all) search engines not only would they become outragously rich beyond belief but this industry would flourish like a motherfucker!XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Im not completly understanding the concept of "State intervention" and how it would apply to this idea.
If all the bugs could be worked out Im sure it would go worldwide!Comment
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Didn't DirectNic suspend your domains over legal content that looked illegal? I'd say sites like this will only add to the shitstorm that will hit all US TGP webmasters if the FSC don't succeed in getting the amendments in 2257 overturned.I hate threads like this. The girl is 20 years old which makes her legal, if she looks younger, who cares, she's 2 years older than what's needed to be legal.
So going off of everyone's philosophy about how young a girl looks, are you all saying that if you go out and find a 15 year old girl that LOOKS older than 18, then it'd be ok to take some nude shots of her and post them on the net ??? She would LOOK 18+, so I guess that'd make it alright ???
What the bottom line is that it all goes down to what's on the birth certificate. If Lupe wants to take her clothes off and have her own site, why shouldn't she be allowed to, she's 20.Whitehat is for chumps
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exactly by the way good morning to ya!
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OK.. think even LE would agree, even on a personal basis that leaving any govt to take control of net imaging would most likely be open to abuse by whatever govt based on their whims of the day (and the stupidity politicians can get up to).
Another factor is... tho this is not directly associated with the adult industry - stuff like CP is not necessarily distributed by paysites in the normal sense - a large volume is via pedo to pedo over the net. (These people are often in close contact with each other - birds of a feather). Ironically also, is that around 50%+ is sitting on US servers and hidden away in strange places - suprising when their supposed to be a reasonable degree of monitoring. Basically the volume is too much and it's not possible for LE to manage it.
To actually "manage" all net imaging when you consider the volume and diversity of sensitive content - it's a nightmare :-)
Add to that the diversity of laws over a range of countries and it becomes impractical. Eg... the US does allow content such as "Little Lupe" (struck down in.. think 2002 by the Supreme Court), but it would probably be illegal in Canada, the UK and a fair number of other countries.
What there is now is monitoring of websites by LE in various countries - they "know" real porn when they see it and what is otherwise. But this is again limited in how much they can physically monitor and there can be tendencies to concentrate on more probable offending websites. The public report websites, but again - a fair amount of that is not actually illegal or borderline, but it uses up LE resources checking it out.
Again.. there are more urgent issues than CP - bearing in mind this is an offense normally following on from more serious offenses, and resources can get diversified towards the more serious issues.
Overall... it's a friggin war! *lol*XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Guys,
If some of you pornographers have a problem with her...
Just imagine how some of the members of the US Government feels about this when they see it...
Internet porn is relatively new in society, and I firmly believe it will come to a point where there will be a far younger looking girl than Little Lupo that comes out that will push the boundries even further. Some 18 year old will get off the bus, maybe not this year, or the next, but in another couple years that will make this girl look like a MILF. I should know, in my life I met a girl who looked like she was 10-11 years old, but she was 21 and had some sort of problem growing. She literally looked 10 or 11 years old, and it was funny because of the people I knew that knew HER, nobody would date her because she looked, frankly, gross. It was a total turn off to meet someone who was 4'7 and 70 lbs, who is 21. She looked freaky, like a kid in grown woman's clothes. How long before someone finds another girl like that, puts some makeup on her, and presents her as the latest 18 year old?
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Doubt it needs to even get to the level of government members - can think of a few folks who would blow a fuse before that
This is where any country which does not have existing laws to manage the idea of "young looking" will end up implementing laws. A fair number of western countries already have laws re "pedo-marketing".
Odd aside... there are a few people who already use the "looks young" test - Clickcash has been using this for some time now.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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I dont know seems like the whole god damn internet at this point just needs to be shut down for a while and rebooted with some distinct fuckin policies then!
Seems all our governments want to do is reside in fancy suits and bitch about shit they have no Ideas about!(if countries cant agree on shit then they shouldnt have access via internet)!
Answer me this when an who invented the internet Im sure by now thats irrelevant, but shouldnt have they have thought about the way shit was going to go down in the first place and set up some kind of worldwide negotiation?
Of course the answer is that (well back then da da da)ok then its time for a reboot then a new world order!
Between hackers and people trying to get rich off malaware and illegal stuff,
It really has turned into a fucking pile of fucking cowshit hasnt it?
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why the fuck is this thread so longComment
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i stay well away from teen revenue sites. they are sick fucks IMOComment
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Lol, 4 page thread? That reminds me, I need to get my littlelupe.com links up.Comment
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People will rob and shoot someone over $5
What makes you think anyone on GFY won't smile and shake your hand at Internext, but then GLADLY sell or trade you the shittiest traffic in exchange for your money? Or the people who gladly flood the market with spyware/adware, as long as they get paid, why should they care?https://3-veo.com/
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I can see it now.. Joe Schmuck has her plastered all over his site hoping to make a killing.. Jonathan Law knocks on his door with a few questions... "Oh.. well she's 20, so it's all good." .. "Prove it" .. "uh... well... I'll have to get back with ya on that." "Well, in the mean time what I'm looking at appears to be illegal, so assume the position."
Hires a lawyer.. goes to court.. proof is finally produced.. Rich boy wannabe is now in debt up to his ears with neighbors keeping their kids out of site..
It could happen.. good luck to everyone..
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Im sure you are right but your missing my point here.People will rob and shoot someone over $5
What makes you think anyone on GFY won't smile and shake your hand at Internext, but then GLADLY sell or trade you the shittiest traffic in exchange for your money? Or the people who gladly flood the market with spyware/adware, as long as they get paid, why should they care?Comment
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I'm sitting on your side of the fence, Doug E.
I'm hearing a lot of people chiming in with the "but shes legal age so who cares" comments and I don't think that was the issue in question at all. I don't think anyone is questioning HER right to do the work she wants to do. The debate is the way the company who contracted her decided to style her and the website they built around her. I took a look at the Spanish version of her site and she doesn't look overly young in those photos. The LittleLupe site was clearly designed to present her as a super young looking girl.
Illegal? Not in the US... yet. Ethical? Definitely debatable.Comment
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He's called an "Affiliate" and he's posting his "stats."
Welcome to the world of the Adult Internet. Please try to fit in and at least look like you belong here.Comment
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If a girl looks young why try to make her up into something she isn't? If the model is cute its only smart to capitalize on the cute-ness factor. Just because she looks under 18 doesn't mean she IS under age. TR has a lot on the line and it would NOT be in there best interest to release a site of a model who isn't of age. I personally look young and get carded to buy a lighter. Which means i don't look 18+. In addition I've experienced people not believing i was 18+ over the phone and they asked to speak to my mom LOL
Its a good thing to look young. I'm shir Lupe will continue to look young for a very long time and i bet shes happy with looking young.
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Is that what we call em? Affiliates?
I don't think "webmasters" who trade with lolita-type sites ever qualified to be anything other than what they are - do you?
PS And I'm not talking about that offshore load of crap.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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i still wonder how you got into all those parties and clubs at conventions before you were 21If a girl looks young why try to make her up into something she isn't? If the model is cute its only smart to capitalize on the cute-ness factor. Just because she looks under 18 doesn't mean she IS under age. TR has a lot on the line and it would NOT be in there best interest to release a site of a model who isn't of age. I personally look young and get carded to buy a lighter. Which means i don't look 18+. In addition I've experienced people not believing i was 18+ over the phone and they asked to speak to my mom LOL
Its a good thing to look young. I'm shir Lupe will continue to look young for a very long time and i bet shes happy with looking young.
Btw- Teen Revenue congrats on the new site. It looks great.
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