little lupe = child porn.
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Aren't ***/TeenRevenue based in Canada?In Canada it's illegal even to imply. If the model is 50 and you dress her up in pigtails or put her in a childlike situation, it's cp, no matter how wonderful your records are or how obvious it is the girls is of age. Implication is everything. The Child Protection Act is very clear about it.Whitehat is for chumps
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Mmmm... what's up with folks who think they can go globetrotting and consider they can do what they like in other countries? *lol*I do remember it..the reason I'm so aware of the laws was that while the legislation was being revisited, our lawyer was in the thick of it and keeping us abreast of where the chips finally fell. It's funny a lot of people want to come to Canada to shoot contnet because they think it's the cornucopia of models and lax laws up here, but oftentimes our laws are more restrictive than even the US laws. People just don't bother to do the research on it, and a lot of people up here shoot stuff that is clearly way over the line. Unfortunately for them and everyone else in the industry here, eventually it will come back to bite them in the ass..... Especially with a Bush-asskissing conservative in power at the moment.
That was a fairly severe problem here with visitors messing with actual children and extended laws were introduced to capture the offenders and a number are now in jail cells for a longish time. If the US will prosecute them, they are often returned to the US, if not, they are dealt with here while the Ambassador puts on an act of moaning and groaning :-)
To the credit of the US law, there are folks involved in this area who are genuinely concerned about child protection and they will go to great lengths, with international cooperation, to locate and convict on these scenarios. One friend working in this area visited for almost two months chasing an individual (who happened to be a priest *s*) for child offenses both in the US and elsewhere - he moved his ass off elsewhere and is believed to be in Guatamala at the moment, but he'll surface again when another child victim turns up and she will be ready and chasing his ass :-)XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Another brilliant fabrication from Teenrev.
Here?s our Espanola version
http://www.zuleidy.com/fotografias.php
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Tho the "offendee's" opinion does matter - you are talking about Joe Public who already connect CP with the adult industry and have no clue of "legal". All they see is a "kid" with a cock stuck in her mouth - sure, that's always good for the public perception of the adult industry.
Technically "legal" in the US is not the standard of "legitimate" and there are other ways to skin a cat - this content is a criminal offense in several other jurisdictions where standards are obvious above the lever of the sewer.
On pedos - who cares about them? That's not exactly a consideration.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Wow, so much hate just because a good program launches a new site with a hot girl that sells well...can't stand the competition ?!Comment
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You asking me?? Don't think the "wideness" of anything was ever a criteria for a defense? *lol*
PS Seriously... we know "Little Lupe" is of age - it's the marketing which is pedo-orientated and that is a criminal offense in several western countries.Last edited by Webby; 04-09-2007, 03:56 PM.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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I am not defending anything. I just browsed along and looked at pictures posted and find that there is no way at second look that the girl in questions appears to be of age. Of course the marketing is very questionable and offending and I understand that it triggers emotions.
I am not a lawyer, but I certainly would not promote her the way she is portraid, but I am aware many other will, because they can be more or less sure she is +18.
For a decent shooter it is very easy to have petite women under 25 look like they are of questionable age. Ask the good shooters around and they will agree to my statement. Of course all of them would not take images of that style (unless they clearly stated it was for art).Last edited by faxxaff; 04-09-2007, 04:05 PM.Comment
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I was not clear on that one when I read it again. Judging from the images I think it is obvious she is of legal age .... that is what I ment to say.Comment
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Agree... it is not an age issue. From our angle in the adult biz - it may be a "perception" angle where, as far as the public are concerned - they would not know the difference between a carton of milk and a cow when it comes to deciphering CP from much else - all the see is what looks like a 12 year old with a cock stuck in her mouth.I am not defending anything. I just browsed along and looked at pictures posted and find that there is no way at second look that the girl in questions appears to be of age. Of course the marketing is very questionable and offending and I understand that it triggers emotions.
I am not a lawyer, but I certainly would not promote her the way she is portraid, but I am aware many other will, because they can be more or less sure she is +18.
For a decent shooter it is very easy to have petite women under 25 look like they are of questionable age. Ask the good shooters around and they will agree to my statement. Of course all of them would not take images of that style (unless they clearly stated it was for art).
This kinda scenario has risen before in this industry and the end result was not good and, on occasion, resulted in further legislation to curb it - simply because the industry was unable to police itself. I don't think the adult industry was ever a pedo marketing operation and there are corps and individuals within the industry who would actively seek to terminate this trend towards attempts to appeal to pedos.
By far, it's just the relatively new and naive online-industry who now feel they can push the boat out and play games with legalities - other "bricks and mortar"/publishing adult operations have been thru this, or similar, processes before.
Thanks to the idiots in the adult industry in the past, there is now legislation in a fair number of countries against using models to portray children in a sexual situation and offenses now exist to prohibit.. basically, pedo marketing of the type used in "Little Lupe" (hell.. the name says it all!).
Bottom line.. got no support whatsoever for the website creators - it's only a matter of time and doubt LE will be interested in inspecting their 2257 records. TeenWhatever are fully aware of their marketing methods, but hell.. there is always some idiot who can't get a grip of reality and end up causing others problems.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Doubt it's more than a technicality - the law like to play games and take their time.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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I refuse to promote pseudo CP sites. I also will not promote any sponsor who has even one of them in their system.
The legit ADULT entertainment industry needs to take a stand against so blatantly tailoring otherwise legal content to the desires of pedophiles.
We say that our industry and the CP industry are totally different. But I guess some of you like to believe we don't share their producers... just their customers. Is that how it goes?Comment
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Would totally agree with that Matt! If the industry can't manage itself - others will as we have seen in the past.The legit ADULT entertainment industry needs to take a stand against so blatantly tailoring otherwise legal content to the desires of pedophiles.
We say that our industry and the CP industry are totally different. But I guess some of you like to believe we don't share their producers... just their customers. Is that how it goes?
Would also agree at the mainline adult industry is not related to pedo porn. Tho a rush to distance ourselves does not exactly stand up with crap websites like this appear. Basically there are the usual element who will publish "anything" for a dollar - they just can't resist it. At the same time, it's usually these folks who are gone in a year or so, and never gave a thought to the longer term.Last edited by Webby; 04-09-2007, 04:54 PM.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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*LOL*!!!!!
I "know" there other ways of skinning that cat Jace - and the law ain't stupid
My best friend is a US govt agent actually dealing with this type of shit and I'm kinda embarrassed/ashamed to even mention it simply because it is seen as the "mainline adult industry" and not another pedo porn site. It has take a long time to defend this industry and stuff like this crushes the whole aura with a lot of folks.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Shes obviously post-puberty. She may look like jailbait, but guess what idiots - finding a girl in her mid-teens attractive isnt pedophilia.
The laws of today in America say 18. Many other counties say 15 or 16.
But go even further back, to the times the bible was written and Jesus was alive. Fathers would give away their daughters in arranged marrages between the ages of 12 and 14, usually to men in their early 20s. Out of all the political and social issues of the times Jesus tackled, he didnt mention this once.
Probably for the fact that if theyre having their period and have tits, theyre supposed to be getting banged, welcome to basic logic and biology. Either you guys are such losers you never got laid in highschool, or your so old you forgot, but just because a girl is under 18 doesnt mean shes innocent. Infact I remember some girls being pretty damn agressive in highschool when they wanted some dick.
Would I bang an underage girl? Hell no, 18 year olds are hot enough so why risk the jail time? But seriously, thats the only reason.Comment
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I hate threads like this. The girl is 20 years old which makes her legal, if she looks younger, who cares, she's 2 years older than what's needed to be legal.
So going off of everyone's philosophy about how young a girl looks, are you all saying that if you go out and find a 15 year old girl that LOOKS older than 18, then it'd be ok to take some nude shots of her and post them on the net ??? She would LOOK 18+, so I guess that'd make it alright ???
What the bottom line is that it all goes down to what's on the birth certificate. If Lupe wants to take her clothes off and have her own site, why shouldn't she be allowed to, she's 20.Comment
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quoted for great truth... oh, and i think she's hot, ribbons, pigtails and all..I hate threads like this. The girl is 20 years old which makes her legal, if she looks younger, who cares, she's 2 years older than what's needed to be legal.
So going off of everyone's philosophy about how young a girl looks, are you all saying that if you go out and find a 15 year old girl that LOOKS older than 18, then it'd be ok to take some nude shots of her and post them on the net ??? She would LOOK 18+, so I guess that'd make it alright ???
What the bottom line is that it all goes down to what's on the birth certificate. If Lupe wants to take her clothes off and have her own site, why shouldn't she be allowed to, she's 20....promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..Comment
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Agree tammix - got plenty of em around here (Latin America) and they are OK girls.
It's not really about 2257 - that's just a record-keeping law (and, in reality, fairly useless in relation to child protection), more about the pedo market this kinda stuff is pandering to. If it was not so blatantly pedo-orientated, sure, it's unlikely to draw attention. And.. sure the girl is "small" and as you said, most Latina girls are, but they don't look like 12 year olds or marketed as such, which is obviously the intention in this case.
Suppose it's back to the scenario a few years ago where card companies were proposing to not accept "teen sites" and at one point "teen" was getting to be a sensitive word. This is the kinda crap which prob would encourage card companies to pull processing for teen sites.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Based on this thread title alone, I am going to see about having you banned.
Not only are you accusing a top GFY advertiser of child porn, you are also accusing me of the same crime since I'm the photographer who shot the site.
Fuck you.
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i think eric already banned him. nice shooting btw, is she as hot in person as she comes across in her photos? smoking girl.....promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..Comment
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Yeah, I just left him a voicemail and called Loryn to confirm that.
Glad to see the mods on top of this one.
Fucking cocksucker.........Somebody needs to beat his ass too.Comment
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For what it's worth.....
In real life, Lupe dresses even younger looking than what is on her site. The "program" didn't make her look young, she just looks young.
Read this......It's about her.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=694754Comment













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