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So if it's a choice. Are you saying that if you grew up like BoyAlley did, you would be a homosexual?That probably has some merit sure.
As for me personally I dont care who is or isnt gay, its a moot point to me but I dont like people who "escape" reality by blaming their abnormalities on nature. Its just kind of funny to me that they argue they are born gay or are "naturally gay" when clearly science cant explain it. Soooo fun to prove them wrong and frustrate them and very good for post count to boot.
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now peptide hormones and their function are a theory?
i guess since you didn't study elementary level biology, you can't be expected to know college level biology.Comment
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as you said... you can "choose" to lick another mans brown hairy asshole and totally enjoy it, in the exact same way you can "choose" to break a law.
besides, i don't think you will "choose" to let the law get in the way of your new lover and deeply satisfying relationship.Comment
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Ok, I'm done helping the helmet wearers club generate threadviews.Comment
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You guys crack me up ok ok let me get this straight....
Pedophiles, Homosexuals and Necrophiliacs arent at fault because of something "hormonal or genetic" that causes their deviant abnormal behavior?Comment
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how are they all the same thing?
the brain is a very complex organ. only a very tiny fraction of its function is understood. well... its poorly understood by science. apparently its well understood by some porn board moron who can't stop making an ass out of himself by making insanely stupid proclamations and declaring them fact.Comment
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Completely different. Pedophiles and Necrophiliacs have sexual arousal to things that are illegal. While they are aroused by them, by law, they are at fault for acting upon those urges. Many straight men have sexual arousal for Jessica Simpson, but they would be at fault for raping her. They are not at fault for being sexually aroused to it, they are at fault for acting upon it and breaking the law.Comment
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In other threads you take your words and beliefs to the end, but for this topic you seems to avoid the issue and run...
And come on! Dont bring that pathetic threadview excuse. I dont run a sig and ever will... and hardly ever post.
I think its pretty clear at this point the answer to my original question is positive. But im still left with the curiosity regarding the details.
And again, being abused and the choice you made afterwards, doesnt turn you into a bad person. Just so you know.Comment
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Dude look your counter-argument to my pedophilia-homosexual-necrophilia connection was that two of those were involving illegal acts, I replied that up until 2003 so was homosexuality and all you can do is come back and talk about other old laws? So by YOUR comparison eventually pedophilia and necrophilia would be acceptable? You make no fucking sense.Comment
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Oh and in response to BoyAlleys thread
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=721628
I suggest we celebrate homosexual soldier got murdered day on July 6th!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Winchell
Woohoo so much fun!Comment
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Exactly right, and time and time again it is shown how the ?moral call? can hurt so many innocent people until such judgments are overturned by society itself, many times by the minority (judges/judicial decisions). Two gays of consensual age fucking each other doesn?t hurt anyone, just as a black man and white woman getting married hurt no one. There is a reason that such stupid archaic laws have been and are being repealed ? they have no logical reasoning behind them and only serve to disparage the minority. As odd as it sounds, these small steps show that humanity isn?t completely fucked in the head and can actually change over time.
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Sodomy caused no harm to anyone on this planet. Necrophilia and Pedophilia do. I stated that this country has had a lot of ass backwards laws in its past, including the sodomy one. I don't think you can classify sexual assault of a minor and fucking a corpse as the same thing as two consenting adults pleasuring each other in the form they want to.Comment
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Again laws are subjective based on the moral vibe of society as a whole, I wont go into history but even necrophilia was acceptable in some societies.
Lets get back to the issue, you said "hormones" cause homosexuality, so do they cause other things such as pedophilia? Also I would like you to give me a scientific source for your theory if thats not too much trouble.Last edited by Splum; 04-06-2007, 08:48 PM.Comment
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When it comes to sex, of course. There are other considerations (such as harmful intent) but consent is the primary concern when it comes to sex. For example, a man who consensually allows another man to cut off his penis then eat it in an act of cannibalism would not be lawful even if both adults consented for obvious reasons. For the vast majority of cases though, adults of legal age of any sexual orientation can legally fuck each other because they can consent.Comment
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Hormones cause sexual arousal. I don't have my high school Biology book handy, but running a search for peptide hormones should provide you a plethora of results to research. It's the same stuff that major pharmaceutical companies are using in erectile dysfunction and sexual arousal disorder. I thought the debate on what causes sexual arousal in humans was closed a long time ago in the scientific community?Comment
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why do you waste your time going back and forth with him.If you dont hit the ball back he will go away.Comment
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Consent is the primary guideline and it should always be. But you can't have it being an end-all-be-all thing. If a chick and I consented to cut off each others arms while fucking, we couldn't do that lawfully because of harmful intent. The fucking, sure. Sliced off limbs, nada. Two gays consenting to sex is lawful because there is no harmful intent. Both people (or multiple people if you are into that sorta thing) can consent to have sex, and since there is no harmful intent there is no logical reason to deny them. At this point you can only really fall back onto a crutch of religious morality since there is no logical reason to prevent two consenting adults, regardless of sexual orientation, from having sex.Comment
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At the risk of taking the thread back on topic:
The issue of sexual abuse and its correlation with sexuality is a complex one, and it's one I've actually spent some time studying (i.e., looking at clinical studies and references in the psychological literature)
Homosexuality (in the sense of sexual *orientation*) is genetically based and therefore hardwired, and pretty much no one except the Christian wingnuts disputes this any more. There's some pretty strong evidence for a biological basis.
HOWEVER, there is also a class of people with a sexual *preference* that may have been altered as a result of abuse they suffered. This can apply to both men and women, and comprises a very small percentage of the population who is attracted to same-sex relationships. However, most of the people that fall into this category have other issues that prevent them from having healthy sexual relationships of *any* type (same or opposite sex), which are secondary issues that appear to be caused by the abuse they suffered.
In other words, nearly all gays and lesbians are hardwired to be that way, but a small percentage of people may find themselves uncomfortable in relationships with the opposite sex as a result of abuse they suffered, but these people are not so much attracted to the same sex as they are repelled by the opposite sex as a result of the abuse.
Hardwired homosexuals cannot be made heterosexual any more than hardwired heterosexuals can be made homosexual.
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Just for public record, I dont hate homosexuals or homosexuality, matter of fact some of my favorite musical artists are faggots.
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Ok, so you felt people should have been convicted of sodomy back in the day? That everytime you received a blowjob you'd be given a ticket?
Technically you thought it was still legal as your earlier post points out. So you are telling me that you entered into the porn industry all the while believing that people should be convicted of masturbating in their own homes? Do you see how crazy that is? It would be like selling cookies and being for the conviction of people who eat them.Comment
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Dude look "SHOULD" does not reflect my personal opinion, I am saying SHOULD as in a matter of the fact of the LAW. Just like a shoplifter who gets away with shoplifting should have been caught and punished, do I care? no. does the law care? yes. Get it straight.
Like I said before I like faggots dude I think they are funny.Comment
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