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  • Sharky
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2002
    • 4938

    #51
    Ok. I've also verified they closed their account. I'm told it's US only accounts and does not effect the EU based accounts.
    Sharky

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    • bigtone68
      Registered User
      • Nov 2002
      • 73

      #52
      Originally posted by sharky
      Ok. I've also verified they closed their account. I'm told it's US only accounts and does not effect the EU based accounts.
      I heard from their CEO (who by the way is no longer their CEO as of yesterday) that they are closing the company. He's moving on back to mainstream. But he assured me that all payouts and holdbacks would be returned via Inteca.
      Bigtone
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      • Anthony
        Keyboard Warrior
        • Feb 2001
        • 9653

        #53
        Originally posted by bigtone68
        I heard from their CEO (who by the way is no longer their CEO as of yesterday) that they are closing the company. He's moving on back to mainstream. But he assured me that all payouts and holdbacks would be returned via Inteca.
        We are not closing 365Billing.com

        Our statement. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=721399

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        • NETbilling
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2002
          • 8598

          #54
          Originally posted by Barefootsies
          Verotel and CCBill. If you need tangibles, BHE Bill.

          Who is BHEbill?

          Mitch


          Mitch Farber
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          • jcsike
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2006
            • 689

            #55
            Originally posted by bigtone68
            I heard from their CEO (who by the way is no longer their CEO as of yesterday) that they are closing the company. He's moving on back to mainstream. But he assured me that all payouts and holdbacks would be returned via Inteca.

            inteca is an ibill-based company

            haha, the 365 guys have "nothing" to do with ibill, huh?

            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ghlight=Inteca

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            • MissMina
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2004
              • 2478

              #56
              Originally posted by Persignup Qon
              wow... stick with the tried and true: PAYCOM & CCBILL.... jmho
              That's what I got..

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              • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                • Jul 2004
                • 38323

                #57


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                • JD
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 22651

                  #58
                  Originally posted by jcsike
                  inteca is an ibill-based company

                  haha, the 365 guys have "nothing" to do with ibill, huh?

                  http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ghlight=Inteca
                  oh shit....

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                  • Barefootsies
                    Choice is an Illusion
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 42635

                    #59
                    Originally posted by NetBilling
                    Who is BHEbill?

                    Mitch
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                    • Brad Mitchell
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 9813

                      #60
                      Bad news for their clients, thousands of affiliate and the industry as a whole. I wish the best of luck to all of the sites relying on them for their processing in finding their solution with either CCBill or Epoch.

                      Brad
                      President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
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                      • vicki
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 1478

                        #61
                        whats odd to me is that nobody has asked WHY their account was closed.
                        Banks do not close accounts willy-nilly, they have a REASON for it.
                        (remember back to the CE days?)

                        even though its 'only' the US thats affected, if the account was closed on them it makes one wonder about the business practices that caused the closure ... and how long before it affects the EU banking relationships

                        ---------
                        on another note .. bhe??? ROFL - M.L. is that you??
                        If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment.

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                        • Barefootsies
                          Choice is an Illusion
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 42635

                          #62
                          Originally posted by vicki
                          on another note .. bhe??? ROFL - M.L. is that you??
                          Who the hell is M.L.?
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                          • Barefootsies
                            Choice is an Illusion
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 42635

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                            Bad news for their clients, thousands of affiliate and the industry as a whole. I wish the best of luck to all of the sites relying on them for their processing in finding their solution with either CCBill or Epoch.

                            Brad
                            or Verotel

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                            • vicki
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                              • Feb 2002
                              • 1478

                              #64
                              barefootsies .... he'll know who I mean if its him (as I suspect it is)
                              If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment.

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                              • Nad
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 503

                                #65
                                Vicki - as per our statement on this matter the account was NOT closed by the bank. The account was in excellent standing, and as such monies will continue to be released. Our organization has simply parted ways with the CEO of 365BillingUS, Jeff Foster.

                                365Billing EU and the Parent Company are strong, stable and continue to grow... if anyone has any questions, do not hesitate to contact your representative or myself directly.

                                Read our official statement here:

                                http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=721399




                                Originally posted by vicki
                                whats odd to me is that nobody has asked WHY their account was closed.
                                Banks do not close accounts willy-nilly, they have a REASON for it.
                                (remember back to the CE days?)

                                even though its 'only' the US thats affected, if the account was closed on them it makes one wonder about the business practices that caused the closure ... and how long before it affects the EU banking relationships

                                ---------
                                on another note .. bhe??? ROFL - M.L. is that you??
                                Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar!

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                                • Barefootsies
                                  Choice is an Illusion
                                  • Feb 2005
                                  • 42635

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by vicki
                                  barefootsies .... he'll know who I mean if its him (as I suspect it is)
                                  Ah ok. Must be some code talk. No clue who that, or those initials, stand for.

                                  Maybe I need to get out more.

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                                  • GigoloMason
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2005
                                    • 742

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by uno
                                    Mason is a good, smart guy.
                                    Aww <3 Was good getting to hang with you in phx!

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                                    • RegUser
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2004
                                      • 1472

                                      #68
                                      good bloody lord
                                      I have been trying to get payment for past several days from these guys
                                      not a damn dime
                                      has anyone been paid recently ?

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                                      • Barefootsies
                                        Choice is an Illusion
                                        • Feb 2005
                                        • 42635

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by RegUser
                                        good bloody lord
                                        I have been trying to get payment for past several days from these guys
                                        not a damn dime
                                        has anyone been paid recently ?
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                                        • RegUser
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2004
                                          • 1472

                                          #70
                                          comeon barefoot bro
                                          not both of us again....we are still licking wounds inflicted by mister cohen

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                                          • Barefootsies
                                            Choice is an Illusion
                                            • Feb 2005
                                            • 42635

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by RegUser
                                            comeon barefoot bro
                                            not both of us again....we are still licking wounds inflicted by mister cohen
                                            Well in this case, I am sorry to see you are burned again. I recognized the name. Luckily I have been happy with adding in CCBill as a secondary on my cascade, and Verotel as main on everything except tangibles, and custom orders (over $100).

                                            I did not get burned this time, but I see you, and some of the others I recognize from Howie Nixon era. My sincerest condolences on this my friend.

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                                            • Webby
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 14956

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                              Well in this case, I am sorry to see you are burned again. I recognized the name. Luckily I have been happy with adding in CCBill as a secondary on my cascade, and Verotel as main on everything except tangibles, and custom orders (over $100).

                                              I did not get burned this time, but I see you, and some of the others I recognize from Howie Nixon era. My sincerest condolences on this my friend.

                                              Ah.. the Howie era

                                              Whatever the reasons and excuses this time, and irrespective of what future 365billing may have or not, and how accurate or otherwise their "press releases" are - the fundamental issue remains that most TPP's do not or will not provide *any* form of security for the funds they hold on behalf of webmasters.

                                              The only two processors I know of who do provide an element of security as part of their biz model are SegPay and Verotel (you chose well!).

                                              It's amazing that *any* processor even exists today where they cannot provide a biz model to secure client funds in the event of their demise - even more surprising are the so-called "big names" who still do not provide this. But again... iBill was a big name at one time, and time seems to be a leveller
                                              XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                              • Barefootsies
                                                Choice is an Illusion
                                                • Feb 2005
                                                • 42635

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by Webby
                                                Ah.. the Howie era



                                                Originally posted by Webby
                                                The only two processors I know of who do provide an element of security as part of their biz model are SegPay and Verotel (you chose well!).


                                                Originally posted by Webby
                                                It's amazing that *any* processor even exists today where they cannot provide a biz model to secure client funds in the event of their demise - even more surprising are the so-called "big names" who still do not provide this. But again... iBill was a big name at one time, and time seems to be a leveller
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                                                • count of monte cristo
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Sep 2004
                                                  • 473

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by mmaisonet
                                                  Thanks for the kind words Jake. Anyone looking for alternatives, please hit me up on icq or email me at [email protected].
                                                  you fuckin rat
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                                                  • chupacabra
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 3626

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by count of monte cristo
                                                    you fuckin rat
                                                    i believe the word you are looking for friend is 'vulture', not rat..
                                                    ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                                    • count of monte cristo
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Sep 2004
                                                      • 473

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by chupacabra
                                                      i believe the word you are looking for friend is 'vulture', not rat..

                                                      good point, and i admit this was an afterthought, but 365 are still processing in the eu, so they are not carrion at this point. rats will nibble at you when you are alive.
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                                                      • Major (Tom)
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                        • 32492

                                                        #77
                                                        didnt two big sponsors make obvious set up plugs for 365 like 4 months ago?
                                                        i knew it would go tits shining.
                                                        Duke

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                                                        • Barefootsies
                                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 42635

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                                                          didnt two big sponsors make obvious set up plugs for 365 like 4 months ago?
                                                          i knew it would go tits shining.
                                                          Duke
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                                                          • RegUser
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2004
                                                            • 1472

                                                            #79
                                                            has anyone been paid by 365 lately?

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                                                            • Pete-KT
                                                              Workin With The Devil
                                                              • Oct 2004
                                                              • 51532

                                                              #80
                                                              wow hope anyone with them has stopped using them already

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                                                              • bigtone68
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                • 73

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by RegUser
                                                                has anyone been paid by 365 lately?
                                                                I haven't gotten paid yet, but Dan at 365 is busting his ass to get me setup with my own merchant account by mid next week. They are working pretty hard to keep me satified. Also - it's my understanding that Jeff their former CEO actually cancelled the US merchant account on his own without corp approval.
                                                                Bigtone
                                                                Marketing Dude

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                                                                • Bossman
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jun 2006
                                                                  • 1263

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by bigtone68
                                                                  Also - it's my understanding that Jeff their former CEO actually cancelled the US merchant account on his own without corp approval.
                                                                  Why would he do that? Was he the Guarantor for the account?
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                                                                  • bigtone68
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                    • 73

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Bossman
                                                                    Why would he do that? Was he the Guarantor for the account?
                                                                    I'm not sure about the details.
                                                                    Bigtone
                                                                    Marketing Dude

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                                                                    • Rui
                                                                      web
                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                      • 9533

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by bigtone68
                                                                      I haven't gotten paid yet, but Dan at 365 is busting his ass to get me setup with my own merchant account by mid next week. They are working pretty hard to keep me satified. Also - it's my understanding that Jeff their former CEO actually cancelled the US merchant account on his own without corp approval.
                                                                      say what??

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                                                                      • chupacabra
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                        • 3626

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by bigtone68
                                                                        I haven't gotten paid yet, but Dan at 365 is busting his ass to get me setup with my own merchant account by mid next week. They are working pretty hard to keep me satified. Also - it's my understanding that Jeff their former CEO actually cancelled the US merchant account on his own without corp approval.
                                                                        that sounds nuts. why would anyone ditch a money-making operation w/out some external pressure or threat? rebill money already banked, reserves, etc... something doesn't ring true here methinks..
                                                                        ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                                                        • jcsike
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2006
                                                                          • 689

                                                                          #86
                                                                          the problem is this. There are 2 major processing companies, and new processors have to pick up the risky business that the 2 major ones are disgarding, the high volume hidden crossells, content/complaince stuff that the big guys wont touch and for a new processors, having a risky portfolio spells doom. They are less experienced, dont have the relationships and reputation

                                                                          the results seem to speak for themselves

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                                                                          • jcsike
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2006
                                                                            • 689

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                                            Hi,

                                                                            I am sorry that 365 is having problems.
                                                                            However....

                                                                            We can setup adult merchant accounts in 3 days and have you ready to go when the account goes live. We have been in business for 9 years. We are the leading merchant services processor in this industry.

                                                                            Let me know if we may be of assistance.

                                                                            Thank you, Mitch Farber
                                                                            your a nice guy but your jackel posts are a big disappointment

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                                                                            • Webby
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 14956

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by Rui
                                                                              say what??
                                                                              We know all processors organize their biz affairs sooo very well and I've never met one yet who was less than the epitome of sheer entrepreneurial genius and they are all 100&#37; honorable people - to prove it they even bought the drinks.

                                                                              Sadly Rui, the truth is ya could count the valid folks/companies on less than one hand - the rest is utter verbal diarrhea and trying to cover ass while maintaining a face of relevance, flashing the odd symbol of wealth to prove something, and who will ultimately resort of a constant barrage of lies and deceit to save their asses.

                                                                              The other even sadder element is that there are sometimes good people working for these operations who get lied to by the corp administrators - and they, of course, are dumped and jobless when the swamplife finally elect to give up the charade of being a "processor".

                                                                              Sader still is the online industry who tolerate these idiots and sign up without having a clue as to who is handling webmaster funds and without any assurances of security in place for the funds they hold. I'm gonna start Banco de Con on Monday morning - anyone want an account?
                                                                              Last edited by Webby; 04-06-2007, 04:59 PM.
                                                                              XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                              • NETbilling
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                • 8598

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by jcsike
                                                                                the problem is this. There are 2 major processing companies, and new processors have to pick up the risky business that the 2 major ones are disgarding, the high volume hidden crossells, content/complaince stuff that the big guys wont touch and for a new processors, having a risky portfolio spells doom. They are less experienced, dont have the relationships and reputation

                                                                                the results seem to speak for themselves
                                                                                Are you only referring to 3rd party processors here?

                                                                                Mitch


                                                                                Mitch Farber
                                                                                CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                • NETbilling
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                  • 8598

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by jcsike
                                                                                  your a nice guy but your jackel posts are a big disappointment
                                                                                  Sorry you feel that way but I have been doing this for 9 years and have seen many, many many processors come and go. We have been here to help many of the merchants that have been left hanging.

                                                                                  Mitch


                                                                                  Mitch Farber
                                                                                  CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                  Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                  Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                  • Barefootsies
                                                                                    Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                                    • 42635

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Howard Cohen

                                                                                    Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                    We know all processors organize their biz affairs sooo very well and I've never met one yet who was less than the epitome of sheer entrepreneurial genius and they are all 100% honorable people - to prove it they even bought the drinks.

                                                                                    Sadly Rui, the truth is ya could count the valid folks/companies on less than one hand - the rest is utter verbal diarrhea and trying to cover ass while maintaining a face of relevance, flashing the odd symbol of wealth to prove something, and who will ultimately resort of a constant barrage of lies and deceit to save their asses.

                                                                                    The other even sadder element is that there are sometimes good people working for these operations who get lied to by the corp administrators - and they, of course, are dumped and jobless when the swamplife finally elect to give up the charade of being a "processor".

                                                                                    Sader still is the online industry who tolerate these idiots and sign up without having a clue as to who is handling webmaster funds and without any assurances of security in place for the funds they hold. I'm gonna start Banco de Con on Monday morning - anyone want an account?
                                                                                    for your new el banco, make sure to hire this man...

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                                                                                    • Webby
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 14956

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                      for your new el banco, make sure to hire this man...
                                                                                      Ya may have a good man there! :-)

                                                                                      Hate to say it Barefootsies, but he might be more honest and reliable than some other "processors" around
                                                                                      XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                      • RegUser
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Nov 2004
                                                                                        • 1472

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                        Ya may have a good man there! :-)

                                                                                        Hate to say it Barefootsies, but he might be more honest and reliable than some other "processors" around
                                                                                        thats quite true
                                                                                        adult industry is being dealt fatal blows one by one by these processors. Imagine what will happen if the big two bite the dust tomorrow

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                                                                                        • jcsike
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jan 2006
                                                                                          • 689

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                                                          Are you only referring to 3rd party processors here?

                                                                                          Mitch
                                                                                          yea, i understand the risk shifts, i know of a handful of people that burned through their merchant accounts and had to take some "creative" measures when they went back to epoch/ccbill

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                                                                                          • jcsike
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jan 2006
                                                                                            • 689

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                                                            Sorry you feel that way but I have been doing this for 9 years and have seen many, many many processors come and go. We have been here to help many of the merchants that have been left hanging.

                                                                                            Mitch
                                                                                            how can one respect a business that dances on graves as you constantly do?

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                                                                                            • Webby
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 14956

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by RegUser
                                                                                              thats quite true
                                                                                              adult industry is being dealt fatal blows one by one by these processors. Imagine what will happen if the big two bite the dust tomorrow
                                                                                              Could see a couple of others stepping up if that happened RegUser - but not on the same basis as the "big two" - and offering security of webmaster funds, which sounds a more than reasonable concept
                                                                                              XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                              • Barefootsies
                                                                                                Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                                • 42635

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                                Ya may have a good man there! :-)

                                                                                                Hate to say it Barefootsies, but he might be more honest and reliable than some other "processors" around
                                                                                                Scary

                                                                                                **shudders**
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                                                                                                • NETbilling
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                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 8598

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by jcsike
                                                                                                  how can one respect a business that dances on graves as you constantly do?

                                                                                                  Really? How am I dancing on anyones grave? Just because I offer our services is not dancing. Do you see me jumping up and down or saying whoopie? No. I am always respecful and actually do not like to see if a good copmpany goes down because it weakens our industry as a whole.

                                                                                                  Mitch


                                                                                                  Mitch Farber
                                                                                                  CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                                  Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                                  Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                                  • DamageX
                                                                                                    Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                    • 14293

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by RegUser
                                                                                                    thats quite true
                                                                                                    adult industry is being dealt fatal blows one by one by these processors. Imagine what will happen if the big two bite the dust tomorrow
                                                                                                    You shouldn't forget that the big two were once the big three.
                                                                                                    Whitehat is for chumps

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                                                                                                    • jcsike
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                                                                                                      • Jan 2006
                                                                                                      • 689

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                                                                      Really? How am I dancing on anyones grave? Just because I offer our services is not dancing. Do you see me jumping up and down or saying whoopie? No. I am always respecful and actually do not like to see if a good copmpany goes down because it weakens our industry as a whole.

                                                                                                      Mitch
                                                                                                      Your spamming a thread thats talking about the demise of, at least part, of a competitor. *Most* other processors and gateways show professional courtesy and enough respect to stay out of this thread.

                                                                                                      If you dont understand that, for whatever self-serving reason, im done with this subject. I just wanted to point that out, not to argue with you about it.

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