Getting sick of hearing British hacker wine about having to stand trial in the States

**scottybuzz** · 04-04-2007, 05:07 AM

If he is found guilty in the U.S, he could face up to 70 years in jail and fines of up to $1.75 million.

thats probably why he is whining. i think anybody would wine if they were in that situation.

**darksoul** · 04-04-2007, 05:12 AM

Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Seriously he admits to hacking American military computers but keeps showing up on British media bitching about how he shouldn't face extradition. Give me a break.

Article: http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/47679.html

he has a point.
it seems right now every country is ready to turn its people to US Authorities whenever they ask for it.
On the other side the US won't give you anybody if your government asks for it.

**SmokeyTheBear** · 04-04-2007, 05:21 AM

funny i have heard alot of foreigners extradited to U.S. to face charges but never any americans extradited to face hacking charges overseas.

**Sarah_Jayne** · 04-04-2007, 05:27 AM

I would feel the same way if he was an American who hacked British Military computers. It isn't like he didn't know what he was doing was illegal.

**Sarah_Jayne** · 04-04-2007, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by darksoul

he has a point.
it seems right now every country is ready to turn its people to US Authorities whenever they ask for it.
On the other side the US won't give you anybody if your government asks for it.

I understand the point and I also agree about the double standard BUT he admits to breaking the law so I don't see why he thinks he should be let off.

**notabook** · 04-04-2007, 05:31 AM

Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash

I would feel the same way if he was an American who hacked British Military computers. It isn't like he didn't know what he was doing was illegal.

He was just looking for proof of UFOs

**Ben_MN** · 04-04-2007, 05:34 AM

$1.75 million?

Isn't that about 50 pounds these days? ;)

**Sarah_Jayne** · 04-04-2007, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by Ben_MN

$1.75 million?

Isn't that about 50 pounds these days? ;)

lol sure feels like it when I am paying the rent

**Sarah_Jayne** · 04-04-2007, 05:37 AM

Originally posted by notabook

He was just looking for proof of UFOs

he should be locked up for that alone and save the gene pool

**bizarredollars** · 04-04-2007, 07:20 AM

If I were in his shoes, I would be whining too... A hacking would not face anywhere near as harsh a sentence in a british court.

**Sarah_Jayne** · 04-04-2007, 07:22 AM

Well then he should have hacked a British computer. Fact is..he is a criminal.

**Phoenix** · 04-04-2007, 07:32 AM

i hope he doesnt get sent back

he didnt do anything wrong execpt espose how ridiculously easy it is to break into their comps

**GatorB** · 04-04-2007, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by scottybuzz

If he is found guilty in the U.S, he could face up to 70 years in jail and fines of up to $1.75 million.

thats probably why he is whining. i think anybody would wine if they were in that situation.

Yeah but Cuba has nice weather all year round so it shouldn't be that bad.

**Sarah_Jayne** · 04-04-2007, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by Phoenix

i hope he doesnt get sent back

he didnt do anything wrong execpt espose how ridiculously easy it is to break into their comps

I hope your server never gets hacked.

**SmokeyTheBear** · 04-04-2007, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Well then he should have hacked a British computer. Fact is..he is a criminal.

if its a crime in england then he should be tried in england..

porn is illegal in many countries , would it be ok for them to deport you to syria because you broke syrian law ?

**Linkster** · 04-04-2007, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

if its a crime in england then he should be tried in england..

porn is illegal in many countries , would it be ok for them to deport you to syria because you broke syrian law ?

watch out what you wish for - that might be the next "big thing" if the US can ever figure out which country to try to talk into it first

**drjones** · 04-04-2007, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash

I understand the point and I also agree about the double standard BUT he admits to breaking the law so I don't see why he thinks he should be let off.

I don't think he should be let off, but I'm not sure he should be so readily handed over to the US, where more than likely hes going to be labeled with the magic word, "Terrorist", and denied all kinds of due process. I'm all for justice, but I'd be scared shitless if I were him. All indications are showing that his punishment is going to far exceed his actual crimes, just so they can make an example of him.

From everything I've read, he simply used publicly published and readily available exploits, used in common security auditing tools to break into those computers. These are exploits that should not have worked, on any network or machine administered by anyone with a modicum of security awareness. And these are government computers, with information that pertains to our national security. They want to make an example of him, because he's really not a skilled or expert cracker, he was a curious dude with poor judgment who ran a couple of scripts he found on government computers and managed to stumble his way in, Forrest Gump style. He's really a victim of his own idiocy, and the victim of the idiocy of our government IT.

Sure, put the guy on trial, but we also need to be stringing up the people who managed to so incompently store highly sensitive government information in a house of cards.

**natas** · 04-04-2007, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash

lol sure feels like it when I am paying the rent

amen to that

can't wait to move to Australia where my money will be worth more

**Sarah_Jayne** · 04-04-2007, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

if its a crime in england then he should be tried in england..

porn is illegal in many countries , would it be ok for them to deport you to syria because you broke syrian law ?

I don't particularly care if he is tried in the UK but I understand the request and think his media charm campaign of 'I am just a cute kid who didn't know I was really breaking the law' is lame.

**shoeaholicanon** · 04-04-2007, 08:10 AM

what are we talking about here? :S

**sumphatpimp** · 04-04-2007, 09:09 AM

can I have his computer?
where he is going he won't be needing it.

**directfiesta** · 04-04-2007, 09:11 AM

He commited a crime .... and should be judged where he commited it, in the UK...

Are you telling me that if he had hacked an Iranian gov. computer, the UK would extradite him to Iran to stand trial....

Please ....

**porno jew** · 04-04-2007, 09:12 AM

shut your fucking hole you whore.

**germ** · 04-04-2007, 09:40 AM

didnt this guy also claim that through his exploits he found proof of UFOs?

**Sarah_Jayne** · 04-05-2007, 04:13 AM

Originally posted by germ

didnt this guy also claim that through his exploits he found proof of UFOs?

apparently he was hacking to prove there were aliens...which frankly is another reason I don't mind him being locked up

Getting sick of hearing British hacker wine about having to stand trial in the States

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