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If you are American ( or even foreigner ), living in the USA, host outside of the US , you still are liable for 2257.
You need to be 100% out of the USA for 2257 to be non-relevant.
That tough doesn't allow you to publish just any stuff.
The laws of the country where you host and/r reside will apply, but you do not have to become a paper pusher and keeper.
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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DO ANY OF YOU PEOPLE OUT HERE FIND IT A LITTLE ODD THAT TWO OF THE MOST POPULATED AND WEALTHY COUNTRIES ON THIS PLANET SIMPLY DO NOT WANT PORN BROADCASTING OVER THE INTERNET?
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I sincerely hope that sponsors see the situation for what it is, and the potential quagmire that a lot of their affiliates will be in if secondary producers will be required to be 2257 compliant. I know that there are some sponsors who already provide washed ID's and docs for their affiliates, but there are many that don't. I know that in the past month, I've emailed several of my sponsors asking if they would provide docs and ID's, and those that did reply told me to link to their 2257 page (which doesn't get me any closer to being compliant).
Could some sponsor/affiliate representatives who are reading this possibly make a few statements about whether or not they have some contingency plans? Are any of you willing to, or preparing to issue the necessary documents to your affiliates should they be required after May 1st? I'd really love to hear from them.Comment
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According to the law they HAVE to comply. If not the DOJ can simply have those in the US procecuted and those outside the US have the US banks and even Visa to stop doing business with them.
Regardless if they don't comply saying "My sponsor won't hand over the docs" is not an excuse. You will still be in trouble. So will your sponsor, but they have better lawyers.Comment
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Grow up. Yes, America has a conservative administration. Yes, conservatives are against porn. Same shit, different day. You're inflating 2257 into some exaggerated, conspiracy-theory proportion. 2257 does not directly stop the publishing of adult material. It is, for all stated intents and purposes, a regulation in order to ensure that there are no underaged models. Does it make it harder for US webmasters and producers? Yes. Will it even come remotely close to stopping the flow of pornography from US webmasters and producers? I seriously doubt it.Comment
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Sure, I understand that part. This is compulsory, and there are no excuses. I'm just curious if any sponsors or affiliate reps will comment or talk about what they're doing in anticipation of an unfortunate ruling come May 1st, if they are doing anything at all; not for their own sake, but for the sake of their affiliates, preferably in the form of issuing ID's and docs.Comment
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I think so too. I'd feel much more comfortable actually hearing (seeing) them say it. It'd also be nice to know if they're actively preparing as we speak, or if they're taking a wait and see approach (just in case I have to pull images and video from my site and wait).
I'm not exactly expecting them to show up one by one in this thread and sound off with their plans and preparations regarding the issue. It'd probably be more fruitful for them to email their affiliates rather than post on a message board. Still, it'd be good to have some sponsors in on this conversation.
Suggestion noted.Originally posted by GatorBComment
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Just another note:
All foreign ( non-us residing ) models, shot in the USA, are not compliant....
They need to have ID's issued by a USA authority....
OK, correction : Mexicans are compliant
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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One important point thats being missed in all of this discussion is that what has been passed is the Adam Walsh Act which implemented huge changes to the 2257 law - it includes simulated sex now not just "actual sex" - you can see the law changes at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...aNdQA:e115994: which gives the sect 500 changes to 2257 and is implemented by HR 4472 which was signed into law some time ago - if you dont know whats in that law you might take a good look as it totally changes the definitions of producers (definitely gets rid of the distinction between primary and secondary producers - they are all the same now) and many more
This went into effect 90 days after Bush signed it in July 2006 - and is what the Judge in the 2257 case is talking about when he says Congress basically redefined the 2257 law and overruled SundanceComment
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GET A GRIP ON THIS KID
when shooting outside of the United States, any government's picture identification including the person's legal name, photo and date of birth is acceptable, even if the producer's office is in the United States; shooting within the United States or its territories requires that same type of identification, but only issued by the United States or a state government.Comment
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not sexually explicit but I bet this will change alot of pics on this and other public boards though!
They may have to ban that feature all together which is going to make weaken this industry as far as trading and doing business all the more.
P.S. I am sorry for all the shit I said to you and all the others out here I posted this thread in hopes that for one people could become aware about the present threat and then I did realize what an actual threat this could do to someone reading it so I get a little comical/and stupidly argue over stupid shit and yes I am an all American muthr fkr that has balls of steel and I will argue till the cows come home so give up or take it to the pasture for all I care!
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It seems to me that people in this industry are out for themselves.
The ever growing problems with adaware and all the non responsive sponsors that supposedly do not have a hand in the crooked money pot!
I think if they do pass this bill into a law then we are all going to see where the sponsors really sit on this!
My bet is that thet dont even know what is going on cause they are still hung over from the big shindig out in Zona!
Get ready sponsors cause 2257 is going to take some of your precious cashflow!
If you dont wake up and represent!Comment
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excellent point.. especially the practice of affiliates who receive images from sponsors to use on their own sites.
it seems like FHG are safer for affiliates since the images are hosted with the sponsor who has (supposedly) all the docs.
Even taking screenshots of a paysite to put on an affiliate site creates some 2257 issues....
I think alot of sponsors have a good handle on 2257, in having an attorney who understands 2257, as well as receiving the 2257 docs from their content suppliers or from shooting for themselves.
I think 2257 is another issue that will illuminate the squeezing of the affiliates to a smaller group (ie whales), that have the relationships to sponsors that could get the docs and continue their affiliate marketing promotions.
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primary producers may obliterate from identification documents the performers' addresses, social security numbers and all but the year from their dates of birth. It would seem reasonable to assume that secondary producers, who already have in their possession non-redacted identification documents, may also redact that information.Comment
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You a 100% right but it will do no good if your sponsors dont get that finger out of there asses and provide you with information!
Whats more I cant wait to see the many differences that they do this can you Imagine some Russian sponsor trying to figure this shit out?
My guess is even if the U.S. bordered sponsors pull this off for all there affiliates it will take at least ^ months before any foreign sponsor figures this shit out on there own to make a change!
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What about adult dating services like AFF, etc.? How would they have to handle that?Comment
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By the way why dont some of you LOOKERS TO THIS THREAD pull out that stick from your virtual ass and make a fucking stand for the industry that you are supposedly involved in?
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Hardley 200 responses DONT LET MY INSANITY SCARE YOU!
Incredible how truley fuckin lame this industry is!
COME ON YOU CAN DO IT!
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Well when you sign up on an adult site you provide proof of age ,it is alot different!
They now have supposed proof of age and verification through your E-mail and IP address But this is going to put a complete stop to all those FAKE profiles on them I can tell you that!
The way I look at it is that This is a GREAT THING that will happen if it does and I personally hope it does cause it WILL call out all the fucking scum we all have been dealing with for the last three years to say the laest it is going to TIGHTEN up the REINS so to speak going to call a spade a spade and bring to light a whole bunch of shit!
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I don't get it still. What about legitimate members uploading their X-rated pictures. Wouldn't those NOT be allowed anymore since the dating sites have no ID proof for those?Well when you sign up on an adult site you provide proof of age ,it is alot different!
They now have supposed proof of age and verification through your E-mail and IP address But this is going to put a complete stop to all those FAKE profiles on them I can tell you that!
The way I look at it is that This is a GREAT THING that will happen if it does and I personally hope it does cause it WILL call out all the fucking scum we all have been dealing with for the last three years to say the laest it is going to TIGHTEN up the REINS so to speak going to call a spade a spade and bring to light a whole bunch of shit!Comment
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They may tighten up on the memberships like I just said sure But thats a GOOD THING!
That means that when you sign up to a date site your not just signing up to a site that has a bunch of FAKE profiles that some SHITBAG put up in hopes of making a few bucks off a horney new member!
There will actually have to be REAL FUCKIN PEOPLE ON THAT SHIT!
NO NOT IF YOU PROVIDE LEGITIMATE PROOF OF AGE AND SUCH!Last edited by Bloomer; 04-04-2007, 10:07 AM.Comment
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One has nothing to do with another. I have all real people on the site and never post fake profiles but it seems that I will have to stop accepting X-rated pictures since I can't collect IDs for all of them. And those who post fake profiles will just post PG13 pictures of fake profiles. So, that won't change probably.They may tighten up on the memberships like I just said sure But thats a GOOD THING!
That means that when you sign up to a date site your not just signing up to a site that has a bunch of FAKE profiles that some SHITBAG put up in hopes of making a few bucks off a honey new member!
There will actually have to be REAL FUCKIN PEOPLE ON THAT SHIT!Comment
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