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04-03-2007, 05:50 PM

Trying to help JFK out , his epass acount got hacked while at the convention for 3k+$..

the 2 fraudsters epass accounts are "ann9oldstein" and "teamlivesex"

Please look them up and see if you have any info on this shmuck..

thanks a bunch

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04-03-2007, 05:51 PM

Nope neither one in our affiliate programs
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04-03-2007, 05:52 PM

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04-03-2007, 05:54 PM

They might not have anything to do with adult unfortunately.

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04-03-2007, 05:56 PM

Not in my DB either.

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04-03-2007, 05:57 PM

Not here either.

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04-03-2007, 05:58 PM

bump....

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04-03-2007, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by Spunky

They might not have anything to do with adult unfortunately.

the account name is "teamlivesex" and he got hacked while at an adult convention..

i would say they are in adult

in order to get the money out you would have to already have an account, it would be awfully coincidental a hacker who wasnt into adult just happened to be hacking wireless connections at an adult convention and already happen to have an epass name for at least 30 days with a porn sounding name..

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04-03-2007, 06:05 PM

Thanks for the heads up Smokey ... too much of this bad shit happening to good people like JFK!

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04-03-2007, 06:07 PM

Good luck finding the fucker(s) ! Disgusting.
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04-03-2007, 06:09 PM

Just checked, don't have them.

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04-03-2007, 06:16 PM

bump thnx everyone

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04-03-2007, 06:24 PM

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04-03-2007, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

Trying to help JFK out , his epass acount got hacked while at the convention for 3k+$..

the 2 fraudsters epass accounts are "ann9oldstein" and "teamlivesex"

Please look them up and see if you have any info on this shmuck..

thanks a bunch

thanks Smokey someone had to have given them an acct. There were 4 transactions in total,then according to Epass from what I gather, it was passed tru 2 more accts,the names of which I dont know

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04-03-2007, 07:14 PM

Checked and nothing as well.

I'm surprised epass isn't able to narrow down this individual. No matter how many accts it passes through, someone somewhere is getting cash in hand.

Not only that, but don't they have a fraud policy like any other financial institution? I'm not too knowledgable on this side of the biz, but one would think...

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04-03-2007, 07:40 PM

Nothing in our DB either, sorry to hear that.

Hopefully someone catches these 2 soon enough!

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04-04-2007, 05:18 AM

bump 4 jfk

I would like to know why epassporte isnt being more forward about this..

If they arent prosecuting or investigating this thievery then basically they are telling the thieves they can do what they want and they wont be charged

#1 theres no reason epassporte cant tell us WHO opened the account for them, and if they arent forwarding this to the police , the should also tell us the address and such so other sponsors can be aware...

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04-04-2007, 05:22 AM

ofcoarse epass knows where the money ended up. thats complete bullshit.

i checked our db and no epass accounts exist here with those names and we have alot of epass people.

epass is going to be the only ones to solve this CRIME.

epass, why dont you step the fuck uop and help a brother out?

assholes.

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04-04-2007, 05:24 AM

Bump for JUSTICE!

We don't have any records of those epassporte names.

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04-04-2007, 05:25 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

bump 4 jfk

I would like to know why epassporte isnt being more forward about this..

If they arent prosecuting or investigating this thievery then basically they are telling the thieves they can do what they want and they wont be charged

#1 theres no reason epassporte cant tell us WHO opened the account for them, and if they arent forwarding this to the police , the should also tell us the address and such so other sponsors can be aware...

epass has no responsibility to tell us anything, but at the vey least they should be cooperating with the police if infact JFK is willing to press charges.

its up to epass and jfk... in the mean time its upto the sponsors to speak up if they have those 2 accounts in their system, but are not obligated to tell us shit unfortuantely.

not defending anyone, thats just the reality of the situation.

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04-04-2007, 05:42 AM

Bump for a Cool dude
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04-04-2007, 05:54 AM

Nothing in our DB either

Good luck finding those guys
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04-04-2007, 06:15 AM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

ofcoarse epass knows where the money ended up. thats complete bullshit.

i checked our db and no epass accounts exist here with those names and we have alot of epass people.

epass is going to be the only ones to solve this CRIME.

epass, why dont you step the fuck uop and help a brother out?

assholes.

Thanks p1mpdogg,YES, if (?) they are caught, I would be willing to persue this tru legal channels
Unfortunately, I only have access to the 1st step it went tru 2 others before being withdrawn.

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04-04-2007, 06:16 AM

Originally posted by JFK

thanks Smokey someone had to have given them an acct. There were 4 transactions in total,then according to Epass from what I gather, it was passed tru 2 more accts,the names of which I dont know

JFK i would really try to get them to get you this information or have them give it to authoroties.
If they don't want to move their or tell you they have no knowledge of what happened tell them that part of the US Patriot act they have to keep records.

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Since Epass does business in the US they have to follow these guidelines as well.
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04-04-2007, 06:27 AM

Sorry to hear about this shit JFK stay positive and hope that you'll find theses people. We have checked our DB and we don't have them..good luck on the hunt.

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04-04-2007, 06:36 AM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

epass has no responsibility to tell us anything, but at the vey least they should be cooperating with the police if infact JFK is willing to press charges.

thats what i meant was that IF they arent actively pursuing thieves , at the very least they should be outing them.. i see no liability in reporting a crime and those involved.

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

in the mean time its upto the sponsors to speak up if they have those 2 accounts in their system, but are not obligated to tell us shit unfortuantely.

no they arent required too , but obviously this doesnt sound like that sort of affiliate any program wants..

and i think the industry in general would like to stop this sort of stuff.

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

not defending anyone, thats just the reality of the situation.

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04-04-2007, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by JFK

thanks Smokey someone had to have given them an acct. There were 4 transactions in total,then according to Epass from what I gather, it was passed tru 2 more accts,the names of which I dont know

Doesn't Epassport have all the info of the account it landed in at the end. It's like someone transfering money from my bank account to another bank account from the same bank. Surely the bank would have the info of the account my money landed in?

I'm really sorry for your lose but hell of confused on why this happened and Epassport can't trace it.

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04-04-2007, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by JFK

thanks Smokey someone had to have given them an acct. There were 4 transactions in total,then according to Epass from what I gather, it was passed tru 2 more accts,the names of which I dont know

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04-04-2007, 06:52 AM

cops would have a hard time tracking this down but for the industry it should be dead easy

epassporte has the account holders address that the money was taken out on. if they arent willing to prosecute they should disclose this.. unless he used his own credit card to open an account then it was opened by a sponsor.. no sponsor open accounts until you get paid = he must have sent traffic. so who is the sponsor first , then where did they send traffic from..

People shouldnt take this lightly , this is obviously a case of TARGETTED theft , where someone PLANNED on going to adult convention and hacking epassporte accounts... and if epassporte does nothing then basically they are giving the green flag for all thieves to do the same..

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04-04-2007, 06:53 AM

bump.... epassporte step up fuckers

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04-04-2007, 06:55 AM

how about contacting epassporte and getting the info from them?
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04-04-2007, 06:56 AM

also, the epass cards have the Visa symbol. Isn't Visa ultimately responsible for it? Why not contact them and try to get this whole issue fixed?
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04-04-2007, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by JFK

Thanks p1mpdogg,YES, if (?) they are caught, I would be willing to persue this tru legal channels
Unfortunately, I only have access to the 1st step it went tru 2 others before being withdrawn.

Did you file a police report about this?

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04-04-2007, 07:44 AM

BUMP!!!!!!!!!!

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04-04-2007, 07:51 AM

That is terrible! I hope you get your money back JFK.. I can not understand how epassporte can not track who did it.. seems fishy..

I think I will go take all of my money out now

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04-04-2007, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by Happypeekers

That is terrible! I hope you get your money back JFK.. I can not understand how epassporte can not track who did it.. seems fishy..

I think I will go take all of my money out now

seems fishy to me too..

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04-04-2007, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by czarina

also, the epass cards have the Visa symbol. Isn't Visa ultimately responsible for it? Why not contact them and try to get this whole issue fixed?

Unfortunately since it was a p2p transaction but not a card transaction im sure there is nothing visa can do
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04-04-2007, 08:11 AM

I checked the gts and atkcash databases for any instance of those names as usernames or emails... and found nothing.

Good luck in catching the guy though!

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04-04-2007, 08:17 AM

Ben checked our DB and there are no matches. Sorry, Jules.

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04-04-2007, 08:19 AM

here is the rundown of the actual transactions

Virtual 30 Mar 2007 b2p Fee $-2.00 $-2.00 $77.38 Matched
Virtual 30 Mar 2007 b2p ann90ldstein $-499.00 $-499.00 $79.38 Matched
Virtual 30 Mar 2007 b2p Fee $-2.00 $-2.00 $578.38 Matched
Virtual 30 Mar 2007 b2p ann90ldstein $-500.00 $-500.00 $580.38 Matched
Virtual 30 Mar 2007 b2p Fee $-2.00 $-2.00 $1,080.38 Matched
Virtual 30 Mar 2007 b2p ann90ldstein $-500.00 $-500.00 $1,082.38 Matched
Virtual 30 Mar 2007 b2p Fee $-2.00 $-2.00 $1,582.38 Matched
Virtual 30 Mar 2007 b2p ann90ldstein $-500.00 $-500.00 $1,584.38 Matched
Virtual 30 Mar 2007 b2p Fee $-2.00 $-2.00 $2,084.38 Matched
Virtual 30 Mar 2007 b2p ann90ldstein $-500.00 $-500.00 $2,086.38 Matched

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04-04-2007, 08:25 AM

Wouldn't all account holders that passed the funds also be liable in some way?

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04-04-2007, 08:26 AM

Didn't see either in my DB either. Good luck.

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04-04-2007, 08:33 AM

if you can get them to give you the final account where the moneys were withdrawn i'm sure we'll be able to track the fucker down as i'm guessing he's had the first two accounts setup just for this type of shit so they are probably both bogus info and used only for this purpose ( never used them to sign up to an aff program or posted on boards ) which is why i doubt any of us will find those two accounts in our DBs, if you get lucky the account where the money was withdrawn will have legit info.

whats epass' stand on this situation? i mean i would think it would be fairly easy for them to figure out, a few minutes checking transaction history would give them the final destination/account of where the money was withdrawn.

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04-04-2007, 08:48 AM

Checked ours and don't have them

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04-04-2007, 08:51 AM

Nothing here

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04-04-2007, 08:58 AM

That fucking sucks. JFK's such a great guy -- doesn't deserve this! We don't have any info on these guys.

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04-04-2007, 08:59 AM

Nothing here, good luck!

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04-04-2007, 09:46 AM

kind of fucked up the way epass handles situations like this

and yet ANOTHER reason that any time money hits my epass account it is withdrawn immediately and my password is changed
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04-04-2007, 09:47 AM

That really sucks. No, dont know those names.

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04-04-2007, 09:54 AM

HI JFK

Nothing here in our DB,

I really hope epass will start one day with Ip restrictions to the accounts

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