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04-03-2007, 02:32 PM

Marina just told me about this thread. Sorry to hear about this JFK. Some people are pathetic.

I know hindsite is 20-20 but I use my own wireless broadband when traveling. I would check into that going forward.

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04-03-2007, 02:33 PM

JFK, hit me up on icq 440-887.

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As well as explain to you what more than likely happened.

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04-03-2007, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by JFK

this is not a double post.......just wanted tosee it on top of the page
just in case anyone is familiar with these names....

"ann9oldstein" and "teamlivesex" these were the names associated with the 1st acct the money was transferred to.

Damm, always has to be a jewish name in there LOL

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04-03-2007, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by pr0

JFK, hit me up on icq 440-887.

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As well as explain to you what more than likely happened.

And when you find out who did it, I'll be the first one to help you jump em

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04-03-2007, 02:44 PM

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It could have easily happened. most people don't check that they're going to https://epassporte.com/ instead of http://epassporte.com/ so it would have been very much possible for someone to setup a fake AP and launch a "man in the middle" attack.

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04-03-2007, 02:49 PM

Bad bad character. Karma is a bitch.

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04-03-2007, 02:50 PM

Why do you think this was someone in the industry and not a hotel employee? Just curious as I know there have been some thefts at shows that were done by hotel employees, not webmasters.
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04-03-2007, 02:57 PM

JFK hate hearing this. Hate to think anyone we were all there drinking and having a good time with could also there to steal from us. Karma will catch up with them for sure but I hope you do first!

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04-03-2007, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Male

Marina just told me about this thread. Sorry to hear about this JFK. Some people are pathetic.

I know hindsite is 20-20 but I use my own wireless broadband when traveling. I would check into that going forward.

about your own wireless broadband, how does that work? its accessable anywhere you go as long as the area is covered? for example, travelling overseas it wouldn't work but travelling a few states over it would?

here in canada rogers offers such a thing but rogers isn't supported in all areas of canada even, so not sure how good it actually is if it works that way.

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04-03-2007, 03:05 PM

i read all ... but is there a cure? for sure not! everyone just say "sorry to hear" and "maybe this and that ... " but man, you know where the truth is. if you feel so secure, there must be problem on epass side ... doesnt matter who is having the prob ...

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04-03-2007, 03:17 PM

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04-03-2007, 03:17 PM

just let me know who it is i would be happy to help

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04-03-2007, 03:26 PM

That is wrong on SOOOO many levels.

Maybe EPass could be "convinced" to shed some light on where the accounts come from.

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04-03-2007, 03:27 PM

Sorry to hear this JFK. Is it possible that someone entered your room and accessed your laptop?

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04-03-2007, 03:32 PM

wow, this is bad as in very bad
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04-03-2007, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by BlackCrayon

about your own wireless broadband, how does that work? its accessable anywhere you go as long as the area is covered? for example, travelling overseas it wouldn't work but travelling a few states over it would?

here in canada rogers offers such a thing but rogers isn't supported in all areas of canada even, so not sure how good it actually is if it works that way.

Yes I use the sprint broadband card. Just about everywhere in the US it works and then some. When I went on a cruise this past Feb. I used it for nearly a full day of travel off shore. Its pretty handy.

Here is the current coverage map

http://coverage.sprintpcs.com/IMPACT.jsp

I have to wonder how long it will take before these networks expand internationally.

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04-03-2007, 03:55 PM

JFK that sucks. Bumping this thread to keep some focus on this and those account names.

Good luck.

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04-03-2007, 03:56 PM

That's petty fucked up.

If you ever do find out who did it, be sure that info gets around.

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04-03-2007, 04:03 PM

Ouch..I don't know how people can do things like this and still look themselves in the mirror. I hope you fnd out who's responsible for this.
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04-03-2007, 04:04 PM

Damn scumbags ..hope you get your money back somehow

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04-03-2007, 04:11 PM

Sorry to hear man... my PP account got hacked a few months ago, they took $2k from me. Was able to get it back fairly quickly but it still sucks ass. After that I ordered the paypal security key (that 6-digit generator) and now even if my account is hacked there is no way for them to get my funds unless they have the security key as well. ePass should implement something similar, sure would make me feel 100% safer when using them.
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04-03-2007, 04:12 PM

Let's sort this out like the good ol days ;-)

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04-03-2007, 04:14 PM

whoever did it had the perfect oppotunity, their wireless probably isnt secure, and he could browse any of the pcs on the network, and could just sniff all your web traffic.

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04-03-2007, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by Peaches

Why do you think this was someone in the industry and not a hotel employee? Just curious as I know there have been some thefts at shows that were done by hotel employees, not webmasters.

What is the likelihood of the hotel employee having an epass (or multiple epass) accounts?

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04-03-2007, 04:24 PM

Sorry to hear that JFK, that sucks...
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04-03-2007, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by Peaches

Why do you think this was someone in the industry and not a hotel employee? Just curious as I know there have been some thefts at shows that were done by hotel employees, not webmasters.

how would a hotel employee know about Epass and then transfer to an name like "team live sex"?

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04-03-2007, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by JFK

how would a hotel employee know about Epass and then transfer to an name like "team live sex"?

it was probably someone at the show, any decent tool and they could sniff all the traffic, meaning of 100 people signed into epass, he could have scammed them too.

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04-03-2007, 04:40 PM

sorry to hear that man...i hope u catch the people/persons involved!!!~

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04-03-2007, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by TeenCat

i read all ... but is there a cure? for sure not! everyone just say "sorry to hear" and "maybe this and that ... " but man, you know where the truth is. if you feel so secure, there must be problem on epass side ... doesnt matter who is having the prob ...

I felt secure up to this point and will not stop using them.Someone had my password and the system worked like it's supposed to. Up to this point I never had an issue with Epass,still dont, I guess the fault lies where I used an unsecure internet access and some THIEF took full advantage of it

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04-03-2007, 04:51 PM

That's horrible Julius.... Please keep us updated if you find out anything more. I personally was fearful of just that kind of thing, so I didn't log into any financial accounts while we at the show.

PLEASE let us know if you find out more about it. This is unbelievably f*^#ed up.

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04-03-2007, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by JFK

I felt secure up to this point and will not stop using them.Someone had my password and the system worked like it's supposed to. Up to this point I never had an issue with Epass,still dont, I guess the fault lies where I used an unsecure internet access and some THIEF took full advantage of it

JFK, has anyone at ePass offered to look into this for you? Have they offered any assistance at all?

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04-03-2007, 04:58 PM

Sorry to hear that, I'm kinda worried how the guy got your password...

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04-03-2007, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by DeanCapture

JFK, has anyone at ePass offered to look into this for you? Have they offered any assistance at all?

They are looking into it, they will not give me any more info at this point,but I was also informed that the money is GONE... could not get any more details then that. Just wondered who gave them the account in the 1st place. A number of programs offer you a free epass acct if you promote them!

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04-03-2007, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by JFK

They are looking into it, they will not give me any more info at this point,but I was also informed that the money is GONE... could not get any more details then that. Just wondered who gave them the account in the 1st place. A number of programs offer you a free epass acct if you promote them!

JFK - get ahold of Chris Mallick ( [email protected] ) if you haven't already and explain the situation. See if he'll put his top people on this and get you some resolution. Maybe the money is gone - but they should be able to figure out who got it and offer some advice on how to perhaps get it back or pursue some type of legal remedy. This could not have happened to a nicer guy and ePass should put some effort into trying to help you with this situation. Keep us posted.

If ePass knows who got your money...they should share that information with you. If they know who got your money and don't offer to share that information with you - then please let us know!

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04-03-2007, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by DeanCapture

JFK - get ahold of Chris Mallick ( [email protected] ) if you haven't already and explain the situation. See if he'll put his top people on this and get you some resolution. Maybe the money is gone - but they should be able to figure out who got it and offer some advice on how to perhaps get it back or pursue some type of legal remedy. This could not have happened to a nicer guy and ePass should put some effort into trying to help you with this situation. Keep us posted.

If ePass knows who got your money...they should share that information with you. If they know who got your money and don't offer to share that information with you - then please let us know!

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04-03-2007, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by sperbonzo

That's horrible Julius.... Please keep us updated if you find out anything more. I personally was fearful of just that kind of thing, so I didn't log into any financial accounts while we at the show.

PLEASE let us know if you find out more about it. This is unbelievably f*^#ed up.

I usually always avoid doing that too.

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04-03-2007, 05:34 PM

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04-03-2007, 05:37 PM

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04-03-2007, 05:46 PM

ouch.. this doesnt sound like an isolated incident, this sounds like a planned convention hack.. or someone is really really stupid..

I think epassporte should let you out the person with full details , i.e. all login ip's address info etc.. you cant get a card without an address , so they exist somewhere and unless this person is really really smart , the info should match with other sponsors and such..

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04-03-2007, 05:48 PM

I hope you catch them JFK, sure you have enough contacts at epass to help find the responsible parties that withdrew your funds. It takes me a damn week to withdraw 20$ of my own money from epass, amazing they got it so fast.

I recently had a password breach and fraud detected on an account on a commonly used site. Since it was connected to financial data I cancelled all my cards just to take precautions and alerted my bank. The thing is, it may be keylogging virus' over unsecured network, something really bad and unseen may be going around.

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04-03-2007, 06:06 PM

jesus christ of course epass can find out who it is. if the fbi and people can catch pedos then this shit can be tracked out too. anything you do can be tracked back to you on the internet. even surfing through multiple proxies if you want to find them they can be found. it all comes down to how much someone is willing to help you and how persistent you stay on them to help you, including cops. thats grand larceny if i am not mistaken and my experience says that its a felony punishable by imprisonment up to 7 years if arizona is anything close to the california statutes. considering epass is outside the country i'm sure somehow it can tied federally too. its all a matter of how hard you push it.

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04-03-2007, 06:37 PM

This sounds like there's a keystroke recorder on your machine. That'd be my guess. If not do you recall recently entering your credentials and still not being able to log in (meaning a site was mimicking the real site -- this is what's being used to phish for logins to myspace at the present time and has been used frequently in the past). Oh, and one other thing to consider -- if you are using a common password that you use on other accounts then it might not be that dificult for some unscrupulous person to use it to try to hack accounts.

Regardless, I'm sorry to hear that happened. Theft sucks.
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04-03-2007, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by DigitalPimp

The http address automatically redirects to the https for me.

pstation was making the point that someone could have set up an access point that claimed to be the hotel's, but was really some sort of proxy that presented its own pages (and captured the data submitted) for certain sites. How many people check that they're on https://www.epassporte.com/ (note the S) before logging in?

If you must use public wireless then for heaven's sake set up a VPN with a server back at the office so that everything is encrypted, not just content to/from https:// URLs... in the case of SSL sites it's then double encrypted.
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04-03-2007, 06:56 PM

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04-03-2007, 07:05 PM

one hint of advice....

when not on a network you OWN, turn off all file and print shares. secondly, using your own name servers can help.

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04-03-2007, 07:08 PM

furthermore epass doesnt know shit past the address they sent the card to and which ATM it was withdrawn at.... dont you people realize they will issue a card in the name of 'mickey mouse'?
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04-03-2007, 07:09 PM

i predict many more show stalkers and opportunists now that this publicity about wireless at shows has come up. sad but true, there are more shitheads here on gfy than anywhere. many criminals lurk here for sure amongst us. i won't use wireless at a hotel again.
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04-03-2007, 07:15 PM

JFK, that's awful. I really hope you're able to, at the very least, expose the criminal behind this. Not a nice way to end a trip to a great convention.

Originally posted by BlackCrayon

about your own wireless broadband, how does that work? its accessable anywhere you go as long as the area is covered? for example, travelling overseas it wouldn't work but travelling a few states over it would?

here in canada rogers offers such a thing but rogers isn't supported in all areas of canada even, so not sure how good it actually is if it works that way.

There's two types of access. You can use the cell phone networks and an air card in your laptop. All 4 major Canadian cell providers offer the service. Your speeds vary based on the service in your area. EV-DO (Telus/Bell) and EDGE (Fido/Rogers) is broadband access (over 256 kbps) and is available in most major urban areas. Outside those areas, you have get a signal up to about 56 kbps as long as there's service in the area. The service is costly and often the bandwidth allowed is very limited (as low as 5 MB a month depending on your package).

Rogers and Bell have a new wireless broadband service as well. From what I understand, they've been installing transmitters in cell towers in major urban areas. As long as you're less than 4 KM away from a tower, you can get up to 3 mbps. You get an external modem which you can use anywhere in the service area as long as you have a power source. Bandwidth consumption allowed is a lot higher (10 - 20 GB a month, IIRC). It's about $60/month.
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04-03-2007, 07:19 PM

https:// == encrypted, can't be sniffed over wireless.

Only the endpoint IP address would be exposed.

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04-03-2007, 07:24 PM

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