PRODUCERS: Truths of ex-GF content.

i love all the experts who've never worked with young nude models - sure, just give them a camera, just tell them the cost of the camera will be taken from their pay, and let them go off with the camera and shoot a ton of ex-gf style content like good little content providers.

don't talk about what you don't know, 9 out of 10 of them will do nothing unless you talk and walk them through every shot. what you see on 4chan, the real deal ex-gf content, is girls doing it for FUN - most of the girls you see on ex-gf sites only shoot a handful of photos, you don't see 'photosets' of most of the girls because they didn't shoot those pics to be featured on paysites operated by child pornographers masquerading as webmasters and businessmen.

the vast majority of ex-gf content is indeed underage and I can't wait until the mainstream media wakes up about it. It's a disgrace that XBiz and AVN who purport themselves to be journalists somehow have avoided the mainstream porn industry's greatest shame.

sure 18+ girls take pics of themselves from their bedrooms and dorm rooms - but most girls by the time they are that age are smart enough to know the potential consequences of sending topless or nude pics of themselves to strangers on the Internet. It's the 15 and 16 year olds who are the most naive.

ex-gf, make no mistake means 'underage'.

Quoted for the truth.

And still they don't want to tell us how much they pay. My suspicion is they want to pay very very little and it's not worth it to shoot.

thats been my biggest challenge as well finding new location which is very important...i have been trying to shoot at the models houses when i can.

This is so true. Most young models need direction in the moment to do anything. I shoot the Ex-GF pics myself with a six year old pocket camera and other consumer cameras and hand it to the models on the spot for the self shot & mirror pics so I can get what I want and what the customers need. The variety of locations is of utmost importance and that's where a lot of producers fail. I'm able to vary the locations quite a bit since my shoot schedule is pretty regular and that helps make the settings realistic.

Really? Let's see some of your ex-gf material... or shall I find that ridiculously hilarious post of you trying to peddle some 'ex-gf' content that literally looks like it was shot in the 80s? You're a fucking joke

interesting thread. we need some gf content. if anyone wants to rev share with it hit me up

Well she would definitely be a real ex-gf by now then

found the thread and all the images are now currently broken

seriously... this guy is a fucking joke... if you want to peddle your 1980s content then label your thread:

SHITTY OLD 1980s CONTENT FOR 30$

Don't stick an ex-gf label on it just because everyone else is. Paul you delusional old hippy... this thread is about YOU. YOU are the BEST EXAMPLE of a lame 'producer' making shitty incorrect ex-gf content.... just accept that and move on with your life. Thanks.

There is a place u can buy this type of content and its from a pretty big website which allows users to post thier own pics, movies, do cam shows, escort, write thier own blogs, sell items..ect

Will you link to this place? I am interested in the content.

Yes, please email me this place, thanks.

Are the vast majority of gf pics underage or underage looking? Yes. It's a niche that spawns from user submitted content and let's face the fact: the closer to 16-18 the girls look the more interested these fetish lovers are.

That said, to say that the gf niche is something to be ignored or to stay away from is total stupidity. There is SO MUCH legal EXCLUSIVE content for FREE to be had. You might want to read that last sentence again to process the benefits fully. Think about all the money you spend on equipment and paying the models and then think about that.

Those with no experience in the particular niche, no matter their amount of experience with producing in general, will take a quick glimpse over it and only see the oversaturated illegal pics and sites. Meanwhile there are plenty of real amateur sites profiting big time off this niche, LEGALLY.

Paul, I have only the most respect for you with all your experience in this industry. But to say this content is not worth it is not only wrong but financial suicide for someone with so much access to the resources you probably have. The niche thrives on CRAPPY shot content. The surfers love it and it's possible that you don't even need to pay for it. All legally.

As already stated many times this niche is a completely different world compared to the usual pornographic content. Throw your whole idea of what involves being a producer out the window.

Thank you. On another thread put up by Fiddler I explained to shooters how to make $4,000 from a day shooting this content. I've been shooting "readers wives" which is another name for Exgf content for over 30 years now. Since 1990 for the mags, each set of 20 pics makes about $500. Had a check last week from a magazine publisher and will get another one next week. It's content I still own and all 2257 compliant. Yes some of it's dated. Like everyone who produces for decades content gets dated.

Can I shoot it today? Well I'm not shooting at all, but if I were I would do this content on a casting. Along with the other content we shot.

Is it worth shooting on a casting that 10 girls attend? Yes.

Is it worth shooting as a stand alone project for a days work? No unless you're scraping for work. Or the buyers are paying proper money for the shoot and the prices I've seen quoted for it leads me to say no.

Is it worth shooting a scene at the end of a days shoot? The last price I saw offered was $150 for a set and video. I suppose if you need $150, it takes 20 minutes and don't pay out any extra for it. It's not bad. But this shows why so many scream it's not right or asking for the content.

With so many screaming about piracy I'm amazed to see this post.

Anything user submitted is risky unless the submitter has full 2257 documentation.

Yes I took the images down.

Let me explain why this is another stupid post.

This is business not a game. Like sponsors, affiliates and everyone else in this business I worked for the highest payer. While content shooters here were shooting sets and video for $100s which they no longer earn from. We were shooting sets only for $1,000s which we still own. And still selling.

Whether you like my content or not is irrelevant. The ultimate decision of what and how we shot was determined on who paid the most. You don't sell your labor for less than you can get and we don't sell ours for less than we can get.