New affiliates required to provide screenshots of earnings from other programs?

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  • Konda
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    • Apr 2003
    • 2280
    #51
    It kinda makes sense to me. By being able to see if the affiliate has a legit site and already got paid by other programs the affiliate is less likely to be a fraudster.

    I think with so many affiliates joining PPS programs planning to scam the program with stolen cards, prepaid cards (that wont rebill) and chat traffic, it makes sense for an affiliate program to ask for some references regarding stats/referrers/payouts.

    I think more and more programs will start asking for this. If you look at how many programs closed their doors or completely stopped paying lately it only makes more sense that the affiliate programs that are still around are trying to protect themselves for any possible fraud as much as they can.

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      • DanielS
        Registered User
        • Apr 2003
        • 569
        #52
        none of the above, they need to see how much do you make to adjust the shave feature.

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          • spazlabz
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2003
            • 6548
            #53
            sometimes when I am approving applications I get webmasters that list google as their website or say they are from the US when they're not (South East Asia is where they are usually from when they misrepresent their location). I see red flags I click deny. I may suggest some changes to our application but I wont be asking for screenshots, that seems just a bit overboard to me.

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              • Paul Markham
                Too old to care
                • Jun 2001
                • 52942
                #54
                Originally posted by spazlabz
                sometimes when I am approving applications I get webmasters that list google as their website or say they are from the US when they're not (South East Asia is where they are usually from when they misrepresent their location). I see red flags I click deny. I may suggest some changes to our application but I wont be asking for screenshots, that seems just a bit overboard to me.
                Or sites loaded with content that's possibly child porn.
                Or today sites using free content to load Tubes with that never send anything.

                Affiliates are the MOST expensive part of this business by a long long way. In these times it seems sensible to make sure they can produce a profit.



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                  • Agent 488
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 22511
                    #55
                    oh shut up.

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                      • Serge Litehead
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 5190
                        #56
                        and sponsors should provide their screenshots of solid payouts and conversions.

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                          • _Richard_
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 30991
                            #57
                            Originally posted by _Richard_
                            if they are asking for screen shots you are asking for something that costs em money
                            i'd hit em up and talk about it.. no reason you should be providing that info if you're not asking them to invest anything.. on the other hand, you have to admire how thorough they are about protecting their business

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                              • Peace
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 5712
                                #58
                                is AMA kings same as AMA content?
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                                  • Ecchi22
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Nov 2005
                                    • 10012
                                    #59
                                    If they have to protect their PPS like THAT, maybe investing in working with their content and links isn't worth enough. Who knows, maybe tomorrow they'll close the program like many others done AND tell you to Go Fuck Yourself with kind words like "Thanks for working for us, but we have to close the affiliate program, starting tomorrow. (and we'll never pay your earnings)"

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                                      • sortie
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Mar 2007
                                        • 7771
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by Konda
                                        It kinda makes sense to me. By being able to see if the affiliate has a legit site and already got paid by other programs the affiliate is less likely to be a fraudster.
                                        Yeah, but if everyone does that then it becomes a "catch 22" where a new affiliate
                                        can't join any sponsors since they all require that he/she already made sales.

                                        Domain verification would make more sense, especially since I could photoshop some stats.

                                        You know, "place this file on your domain with this value in it".

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                                          • DirtyJs
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Sep 2006
                                            • 307
                                            #61
                                            I would only ask for proof if the account you were approving seemed a little shady.. If the whois is private, the email is a gmail account, the signup ip is a public access ip..

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                                              • Brad Mitchell
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Nov 2001
                                                • 9813
                                                #62
                                                Sounds like a great, mature idea. Companies that as a cost of business have less affiliate fraud (which is RAMPANT and has been for years as a % of business) will have lower charge backs and long term a greater solvency.. in addition, the inherent ability to PAY OUT more. If there is a proper confidentiality agreement in place and an potential new affiliate is only asked to submit a limited view screen shot, there is no harm in this.

                                                Unfortunately, the masses of webmasters who completely a) skate income taxes and b) feel a sense of entitlement for complete anonymity to their business *partners* is unusually high... coupled with c) laziness.

                                                Best of luck to all-

                                                Brad
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                                                  • gleem
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                    • 5593
                                                    #63
                                                    lol crooks & fraudsters worried about you ripping them off, there's an old saying for that, but I forgot it.




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