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  • 12clicks
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2001
    • 19814

    #1

    Bush needs to teach these rag heads the facts of life

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...di_report_dc_3

    the short version:

    "It is a mistake to think that our people will not do what is necessary to survive," the person close to the crown prince told the Times, "and if that means we move to the right of (Saudi-born extremist Osama) bin Laden, so be it; to the left of (Libyan leader Muammar) Gaddafi, so be it; or fly to Baghdad and embrace Saddam (Hussein, Iraq's president) like a brother, so be it. It's damned lonely in our part of the world, and we can no longer defend our relationship to our people."
    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.
  • RAM
    They're all hookers, but mom!
    • Jan 2001
    • 7047

    #2
    12 Clicks for PRESIDENT
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    • MikeyBoy
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      • Apr 2002
      • 537

      #3
      RAM for brain surgery

      please dont ban me hehe

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      • 12clicks
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jan 2001
        • 19814

        #4
        Originally posted by RAM
        12 Clicks for PRESIDENT
        too many skeletons in my closet for president.
        I'd need to be king.
        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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        • Dualcpu
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          • Nov 2001
          • 488

          #5
          We need a replacement for oil.

          I hate relying on countries like Saudi Arabia.

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          • Keev
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            • May 2001
            • 5335

            #6
            Well a inventer already created a car engine that ran on water but the oil companies or a car manufacturer bought the guy out.

            All comes down to money my friend.... .
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            • Dualcpu
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              • Nov 2001
              • 488

              #7
              Originally posted by Keev
              Well a inventer already created a car engine that ran on water but the oil companies or a car manufacturer bought the guy out.

              All comes down to money my friend.... .
              Sadly that is true. The big oil companies keep us from using natural sources like water, wind and sun. As soon as they find a way to make money of these "clean" sources they will accept them as default.

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              • Mr.Fiction
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                • Feb 2002
                • 9484

                #8
                Suggesting Bush could teach anyone is an insult to teachers.
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                • funkmaster
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Sep 2001
                  • 7938

                  #9
                  "Well a inventer already created a car engine that ran on water..."

                  LOL, only problem, the damm thing was only good for going downhill ...

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                  • Altima
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                    • Jan 2002
                    • 221

                    #10
                    "and if that means we move to the right of (Saudi-born extremist Osama) bin Laden, so be it; to the left of (Libyan leader Muammar) Gaddafi, so be it; or fly to Baghdad and embrace Saddam (Hussein, Iraq's president) like a brother, so be it. It's damned lonely in our part of the world, and we can no longer defend our relationship to our people."
                    Isnt this the country that Bush senior went in and defended from
                    Hussein what the fuck this is kind of ironic.
                    Im sure glad I dont live in the usa
                    icq #212017905

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                    • Eric
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 8818

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 12clicks

                      too many skeletons in my closet for president.
                      I'd need to be king.
                      But you already are Queen!
                      No One

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                      • Pathfinder
                        theking of trailer parks
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 2290

                        #12
                        As to the story 12clicks posted a link to: "...citing an unidentified person..."

                        I take every media report that prefaces their story with "unidentified person/source" with a grain of salt.

                        I am of the opinion that the media is out of control with their use of innuendo, rumor, biased, and sometimes, as we occasionally learn, totally fabricated reporting.

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                        • Steve
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 6894

                          #13
                          Teach them a lesson? I say we let them go on about there own shithead ways. Fuck them, and the camel they road in on.
                          Saudi Arabia are the dumb fucks pushing this extreme version of Islam to the rest of the Arabic world.

                          Who's building the mosques that preach this intolerant belief?
                          Saudi Arabia
                          Why are they behind it?
                          Because the US used Saudi Arabia as home base during Operation Desert Storm

                          We should have just let Saddam assfuck that little country all he wanted, and let the Islamic Nations pussy out, like they always do. By stepping foot on the hallowed sand of Saudi Arabia, we set the wheels in motion for all this bullshit we are dealing with now. We don't understand their culture, we don't fit into their culture, and we never learn from our mistakes when dealing with them. Do we really do any better with one prince, king, or sultan, than a dictator or general leading those nations? I don't think we should be lulled into trusting ANY Islamic nation, no matter who is leading them. And I don't care what happens in the sand over there, as long as the oil tankers make it here safe and sound. They love our money as much as we love their oil. Becuase if we are SO evil, why do they do business with us?

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                          • Sly_RJ
                            Live Hard - Die Hard
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 17042

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Altima


                            Isnt this the country that Bush senior went in and defended from
                            Hussein what the fuck this is kind of ironic.
                            Im sure glad I dont live in the usa
                            Ironic, maybe. Stupid, not really. Things like this happen ALL the time.

                            For example, we actually trained OBL to bat out the Russians in the 80's (or was it 70's). Looks like it came back to haunt us, eh? There's no way to predict most things like this.

                            And we defended the country because we wanted the oil at the time...
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                            • Sly_RJ
                              Live Hard - Die Hard
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 17042

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Pathfinder
                              As to the story 12clicks posted a link to: "...citing an unidentified person..."

                              I take every media report that prefaces their story with "unidentified person/source" with a grain of salt.

                              I am of the opinion that the media is out of control with their use of innuendo, rumor, biased, and sometimes, as we occasionally learn, totally fabricated reporting.
                              Good point, Path.
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                              • Eric
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                                • Dec 2000
                                • 8818

                                #16
                                We also kicked the shit out of the British at one point in time too. Diplomacy is a tricky game
                                No One

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                                • Sly_RJ
                                  Live Hard - Die Hard
                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 17042

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes
                                  We also kicked the shit out of the British at one point in time too. Diplomacy is a tricky game
                                  Damn skippy. And the Germans and the Japanese, then we helped build them up. Last I checked, Japan was doing pretty good. Next we're doing it to Afghanistan. Who's waiting in line?
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                                  • Altima
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                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 221

                                    #18
                                    why dont u build up your neibours to the north?
                                    icq #212017905

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                                    • Sly_RJ
                                      Live Hard - Die Hard
                                      • Feb 2002
                                      • 17042

                                      #19
                                      The Canucks are just fine. Mexico could use some help, maybe then they would quit sneaking in and eating my tacos!
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                                      • Altima
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                                        • Jan 2002
                                        • 221

                                        #20
                                        realy were fine? the japs own 1/3 of canada and the us owns 1/3 of canada and the rest is split buy the other rich countries canada owns like 10% of iteself yup doing just fine
                                        icq #212017905

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                                        • Sly_RJ
                                          Live Hard - Die Hard
                                          • Feb 2002
                                          • 17042

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Altima
                                          realy were fine? the japs own 1/3 of canada and the us owns 1/3 of canada and the rest is split buy the other rich countries canada owns like 10% of iteself yup doing just fine
                                          Exactly, Canada is fine.

                                          If you want help, start a war with someone. Maybe Alaska?
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                                          • Altima
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                                            • Jan 2002
                                            • 221

                                            #22
                                            ya thats it canada wants to fight the usa:P
                                            icq #212017905

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                                            • jimmyf
                                              OU812
                                              • Feb 2001
                                              • 12651

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Pathfinder
                                              As to the story 12clicks posted a link to: "...citing an unidentified person..."

                                              I take every media report that prefaces their story with "unidentified person/source" with a grain of salt.

                                              I am of the opinion that the media is out of control with their use of innuendo, rumor, biased, and sometimes, as we occasionally learn, totally fabricated reporting.
                                              The media in the USA is too dam Liberal, they have to put there Liberal spin on just about everything... And that's
                                              the biggest reason Conservative Talk Radio is the fastest growing media in the USA right now... Liberal people are
                                              tuning 'em in just to get another point of view...... AND that's the FACT's.... And some media company's are just now wakeing up... I said some...... very few though.......

                                              Shit I want the news not some Pin Head telling me what he/she thinks about the Queer's in The City... (catch hell for this)
                                              Just tell me about the Queer's, I don't need to hear some hard Shell Southern Bible Thumping ass hole, tell me there all going to die in Hell....
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                                              • dewpoint
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                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 144

                                                #24
                                                Glad to see 12 clicks is still an uneducated fool. Nice post heading...I especially like how you used the word raghead. God damn, you really are a racist waste of skin, aren't you.

                                                And no, this doesn't have anything to do with terrorism. (I know how when anyone confronts you, you like to bring up your best schoolyard argument and say something absolutely stupid like, "Oh then you must support terrorism").

                                                This is simply a statement that your aren't smart enough to know that only fools (and Hitler) make racial and cultural stereotypes.

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                                                • LoveAsianChicks
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                  • 1464

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Altima
                                                  realy were fine? the japs own 1/3 of canada and the us owns 1/3 of canada and the rest is split buy the other rich countries canada owns like 10% of iteself yup doing just fine
                                                  We need help!
                                                  You can start by sending me some money if you want. i'll invest it back into Canada!
                                                  Last edited by LoveAsianChicks; 04-25-2002, 05:43 PM.

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                                                  • RaGe
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                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                    • 1158

                                                    #26
                                                    I get US checks and buy most of my shit in Canada.

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                                                    • 12clicks
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 19814

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by dewpoint
                                                      (I know how when anyone confronts you, you like to bring up your best schoolyard argument and say something absolutely stupid like, "Oh then you must support terrorism").

                                                      no, actually you're a closet towel head. I understand your anger, I just don't give a shit about it.

                                                      oh no! dewpoint (whoever that is) called me a racist!
                                                      my life is ruined!

                                                      hahahahahaha
                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                      • XXXManager
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                        • 893

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                        We should have just let Saddam assfuck that little country all he wanted, and let the Islamic Nations pussy out, like they always do. By stepping foot on the hallowed sand of Saudi Arabia, we set the wheels in motion for all this bullshit we are dealing with now.

                                                        Sure!. You think US is there for the fun?
                                                        You better hope that water-car worx soon
                                                        hihi.
                                                        And... about the "US levels countries down and rebuild them"..
                                                        another funny post by Sly_RJ
                                                        Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                        Damn skippy. And the Germans and the Japanese, then we helped build them up. Last I checked, Japan was doing pretty good. Next we're doing it to Afghanistan. Who's waiting in line?
                                                        hehe. When did you last check? Japan is in DEEP SHIT. Japanese economy is failing . (Speaking of Osama-BL) Japanese banks are falling like the WTC
                                                        Dont count on Afghanistan becoming an economical superpower any time soon. (nor a technological heaven). Or maybe yes - Maybe the will inven a sand-generated-car

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                                                        • bhutocracy
                                                          Not making A Comeback
                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                          • 10218

                                                          #29
                                                          i think clinton would have been a better teacher for that

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                                                          • Danny_C
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                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                            • 2160

                                                            #30
                                                            I haven't been here in a while... nice to see racism still rules the discussions.

                                                            I'm not even wasting my time with this one.

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                                                            • Rip
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 1456

                                                              #31
                                                              Israel = fanatics without oil
                                                              Arabs = fanantics with oil

                                                              There is only gonna be one winner
                                                              ...

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                                                              • XXXManager
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                • 893

                                                                #32
                                                                Rip = fanatic with too much freedom of speech
                                                                How did Israel get into this thread as well.

                                                                "There is only gonna be one winner" - And that aint gonna be your rebel brain-cell

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                                                                • SleazyDream
                                                                  I'm here for SPORT
                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                  • 41470

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                                  too many skeletons in my closet for president.
                                                                  I'd need to be king.
                                                                  didn't the founding fathers of the usa create the position of president cause they felt the common people were too dumb to embrace a proper democracy and needed a figgure to be viewed as a king - thus the president? No offence to the yankies but I think that's the real orgin of the position.........
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                                                                  Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                  • dewpoint
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                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                    • 144

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Danny C... Yes racism does still rear it's ugly head here. (some uglier then others).

                                                                    I'm thinking of starting a similar thread over at Standard Internet -I wonder how 12-Clicks will respond when his customers and webmasters over at his site see that they are dealing with a racist fool.

                                                                    And 12-clicks, if you don't recognize my name, perhaps you should check some of my other posts in which you have gone on length responding and spouting your usual weak (VERY WEAK) attempt at a rebuttal.

                                                                    You, my friend (insert sarcasm here) are fighting a losing battle if you plan on fighting with intellect.

                                                                    Danny C, I too have left the building ...

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                                                                    • 12clicks
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 19814

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by dewpoint
                                                                      Danny C... Yes racism does still rear it's ugly head here. (some uglier then others).

                                                                      I'm thinking of starting a similar thread over at Standard Internet -I wonder how 12-Clicks will respond when his customers and webmasters over at his site see that they are dealing with a racist fool.

                                                                      And 12-clicks, if you don't recognize my name, perhaps you should check some of my other posts in which you have gone on length responding and spouting your usual weak (VERY WEAK) attempt at a rebuttal.

                                                                      You, my friend (insert sarcasm here) are fighting a losing battle if you plan on fighting with intellect.

                                                                      Danny C, I too have left the building ...
                                                                      dewpont, you scare me to death with your superior intellect.
                                                                      tell it to the Fry-O-lator during the day so when you get home at night you can put me in my place again. hahahahaha
                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                      • dewpoint
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                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                        • 144

                                                                        #36
                                                                        And the one-armed man (12-clicks) comes out swinging. But what's this....he forgot that he only has one arm, and he is swinging from the wrong arm.

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                                                                        • chodadog
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                                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                                          • 9736

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by dewpoint
                                                                          ...You, my friend (insert sarcasm here)...
                                                                          Doesn't that seem a little redundant?
                                                                          26 + 6 = 1

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                                                                          • XXXManager
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                            • 893

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Hehe. Does seem redundant indeed to me too
                                                                            But chodadog, maybe we dont get it cause we ain't intelectual enough to grasp dewpoints ideas ? (dewpoint - I'm just joking- dont unlease your rage against me please )

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                                                                            • chodadog
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                                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                                              • 9736

                                                                              #39
                                                                              It's not just any rage. It's massive amounts of intellectual rage.

                                                                              NOOO!!!
                                                                              26 + 6 = 1

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                                                                              • Sly_RJ
                                                                                Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                                • 17042

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by XXXManager

                                                                                Sure!. You think US is there for the fun?
                                                                                You better hope that water-car worx soon
                                                                                hihi.
                                                                                And... about the "US levels countries down and rebuild them"..
                                                                                another funny post by Sly_RJ
                                                                                Listen you ass fuck, if you have a problem with me, so be it. But NEVER put words into my quote that I never stated. Anything you say is moot.

                                                                                Get a life.
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                                                                                • Rip
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                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                  • 1456

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  xxy;

                                                                                  the point is: oil is the bargaining chip

                                                                                  the US isn't going to react to the arab comments

                                                                                  but, I beg to hear your intellectual solution, to the arab control or the majority of oil resources

                                                                                  while you're at it, could you enlighten us, as to how you are going to change their mind about, say for example; stoning adulterous women to death?

                                                                                  my brain cell might not be able to absorb it all, so you should cc it to foreign-affairs.gov.usa.net
                                                                                  ...

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                                                                                  • Lensman
                                                                                    GFY Chaperone
                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                    • 9846

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    OH sure, we've already had the Isrealis attacking the GFY server, now it's gonna be the Arabs (if they can figure out how to use a computer).

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                                                                                    • KC
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                                                                                      • 2417

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Can anyone site a source on the car engine that runs on water???

                                                                                      for some reason, I'd imagine it didn't work, or travels at a top speed of 3 mph and works like the flinstones...

                                                                                      -KC

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                                                                                      • XXXManager
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                                        • 893

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        KC - hehe. There is no Water-car. The only thing that really exists is a car generated my hydrogen. Its emission is water steam. I think thats what people here meant.
                                                                                        It works and works well BESIDES the BIG problem that 'they' are tyring to solve now - which is how to how (economically) cheaply produce hydrogen in massive quantities.

                                                                                        Rip - your latest point "the point is: oil is the bargaining chip" is so very correct. But whats the connection to your previous point about Israel? What do you want from Israel now - and whats this "how is going to win" thingy? this thread is about US and Saudi-Arabia (and the other oil-rich countries that were deserts if not for oil - Not like israel which has more cooking oil that petrolium ).

                                                                                        as for hearing my intellectual solution to the arab control or the majority of oil resources - the problem is not the control - its the crazy controller. ("while you're at it, could you enlighten us, as to how you are going to change their mind about, say for example; stoning adulterous women to death?") - dont have the solution... We tried an easier case - to teach monkeys to talk - and faild, so the harder task of educating Arab-cultural-dificient societies is beyond me. Better as dewpoint about the Intelectual things - its his dominion

                                                                                        As for angry Sly_RJ. here is what YOU said in this thread
                                                                                        quote:
                                                                                        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                                        Originally posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes
                                                                                        We also kicked the shit out of the British at one point in time too. Diplomacy is a tricky game
                                                                                        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                                        Damn skippy. And the Germans and the Japanese, then we helped build them up. Last I checked, Japan was doing pretty good. Next we're doing it to Afghanistan. Who's waiting in line?
                                                                                        for "We also kicked the shit out of the British..." you added "Germans and the Japanese" and went on to say "helped build them up". you summerized by saying "Last I checked, Japan was doing pretty good." (+ mentioning "Next we're doing it to Afghanistan")
                                                                                        Now - the question is - whats wrong with my analysis that made the monster of you jump out??? and I quote you:
                                                                                        Listen you ass fuck, if you have a problem with me, so be it. But NEVER put words into my quote that I never stated. Anything you say is moot.
                                                                                        Get a life.
                                                                                        Assfuck - yes.
                                                                                        problem with you - apparently if you so very well know Im an assfuck.
                                                                                        Get a life - I will, right after I get over you
                                                                                        put words into your quotes - NO! - you do it and I agree with you that you need to think about the words coming out of your mouth before you put them out.
                                                                                        AND I REPEAT MY REMARK/QUESTION FOR YOU...
                                                                                        Sly_RJ..... Baby.....
                                                                                        hehe. When did you last check? Japan is in DEEP SHIT. Japanese economy is failing . (Speaking of Osama-BL) Japanese banks are falling like the WTC
                                                                                        Dont count on Afghanistan becoming an economical superpower any time soon. (nor a technological heaven). Or maybe yes - Maybe the will invet a sand-generated-car

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                                                                                        • XXXManager
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                          • 893

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          And KC -
                                                                                          3 scientific article:
                                                                                          http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/trek/4wd/hydrogen.htm
                                                                                          http://sln.fi.edu/inquirer/hydrocar.html
                                                                                          http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/science...hydrogen.cars/

                                                                                          BMW Hydrogen car
                                                                                          http://www.news24.com/News24/Wheels2...052015,00.html

                                                                                          and the DAMN good looking GM...
                                                                                          http://liberty.hypermart.net/editori...drogen_Car.htm

                                                                                          more on google "hydrogen car" or "hydrogen engine" ...

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                                                                                          • Sly_RJ
                                                                                            Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                                            • 17042

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            As XXXManager quoted me saying:
                                                                                            "We should have just let Saddam assfuck that little country all he wanted, and let the Islamic Nations pussy out, like they always do. By stepping foot on the hallowed sand of Saudi Arabia, we set the wheels in motion for all this bullshit we are dealing with now. "

                                                                                            I still haven't found where I made that statement. Did you run out of things to rag on about so you decided to make stuff up? You remind me of linkrotater.
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                                                                                            • Rip
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                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 1456

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              What do you want from Israel now -
                                                                                              Vote the violent bent fringe elements out of your government, no one's going to come riding to your rescue, as civilians become casualties of your escalation of violence.

                                                                                              and whats this "how is going to win" thingy? this thread is about US and Saudi-Arabia
                                                                                              Your veiwpoint is skewed in one direction - whether, you like it or not the world doesn't function without oil - oil wins
                                                                                              ...

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