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  • LAJ
    Gingerific
    • Jun 2001
    • 5567

    #1

    My latest rant

    I wrote this article for AVN which came out this month:

    "Style over substance: How mass-produced personality-based marketing is killing the industry."

    Do you make business decisions and partnerships based somewhat on someone's post count? Does someone's popularity and ability to round the troops as it were have an effect on your marketing plan? Do you take someone's word at face value without investigating every detail of their product simply because you are familiar with them? If you answered yes to any of these questions, then you buy into the concept of personality based marketing. We've all done it at one time or another, and given the relatively young age of our business, in some circles it only takes a matter of months to be the next personality. This is both good for business but at the same time is highly destructive to our industry.

    Rest of article can be found here:
    avnonline.com


    I think a few people here can relate?


    I'll be moderating the "Making a Name for Yourself" ? Viral Marketing and other trade secrets seminar at the Phoenix Forum next Saturday March 31 with an esteemed group of panelists. Perfect opportunity to ask questions and make comments in person... I'm guessing those that need to hear it most though will either be missing the show or still in bed
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  • Phoenix
    BACON BACON BACON
    • Nov 2002
    • 35475

    #2
    nice article jay...look forward to seeing you again in PHX
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    • GUNNER
      Confirmed User
      • May 2001
      • 2115

      #3
      great article - so very true.

      like the boy band comparison
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      • 12clicks
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jan 2001
        • 19814

        #4
        uh, no business people base their decissions on board popularity. ;)
        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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        • TheLegacy
          SEO RobertWarrenSEO.com
          • Apr 2003
          • 18180

          #5
          Originally posted by 12clicks
          uh, no business people base their decissions on board popularity. ;)
          LOL.. how true - wonder where LAJ got that idea from?

          I personally find it interesting how much personality fibbing goes on. the real you is no where near the board personality. sad, really.

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          • Connor
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2003
            • 1294

            #6
            Great article Jay... an interesting read.


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            • Vegas Ken
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2006
              • 4151

              #7
              Congrats on the article, it was a good read.

              I be the guy slamming back starbucks at the seminar,
              10:30 is early.
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              • Ben.Z
                Confirmed User
                • Sep 2004
                • 1164

                #8
                Excellent write up, Jay. This community can only benefit from taking some of those points to heart.
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                • seeric
                  ..........
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 41917

                  #9
                  i commend you jay.

                  i am almost done martyring the issues for this community and this is one of them.

                  .xxx
                  content theft
                  exposing and crucifying personality based marketers that do bad things

                  no one cares. i respect you, for as long as you have been in this business, you realize that writing this will fall on many deaf ears, but you still cared enough to write it. you got heart.

                  rock on brother.

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                  • seeric
                    ..........
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 41917

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheLegacy
                    the real you is no where near the board personality. sad, really.
                    i'm exactly the same in person as on the boards. i think that anyone that knows me would tell anyone that.

                    if people like me fine, if not, no sweat.

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                    • LAJ
                      Gingerific
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 5567

                      #11
                      A1R3K... you are one who "gets it"... rock on bro!
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                      email jay at ynot dot com or skype LAJConsulting

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                      • Dirty D
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2002
                        • 4044

                        #12
                        Sounds like a great topic for a panel.

                        Glad to see some new topics

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                        • LiveDose
                          Show Yer Tits!
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 25792

                          #13
                          Sounds like a great read. Checking it out now...

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                          • OMG Jim
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 3153

                            #14
                            Originally posted by LAJ
                            I'll be moderating the "Making a Name for Yourself" ? Viral Marketing and other trade secrets seminar at the Phoenix Forum next Saturday March 31 with an esteemed group of panelists. Perfect opportunity to ask questions and make comments in person... I'm guessing those that need to hear it most though will either be missing the show or still in bed
                            This seminar should be one of the best at the show this year and not just because of the esteemed group of panelists and "High Profile" moderator.

                            Anyone that is involved in online adult marketing needs to be here

                            _
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                            • seeric
                              ..........
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 41917

                              #15
                              Originally posted by AlmightyJim
                              This seminar should be one of the best at the show this year and not just because of the esteemed group of panelists and "High Profile" moderator.

                              Anyone that is involved in online adult marketing needs to be here

                              _
                              i don't attend many seminars, but i will attend this one.

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                              • Rexk
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 704

                                #16
                                Good job Jay...I will be at this seminar....whatever happend to "Content is King"?...I agree with a lot of your points

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                                • Evil Chris
                                  OG
                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 13248

                                  #17
                                  Jay, those of us who ignore the personality based marketing don't want anyone to know we're actually getting it right. So please unpublish your article.



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                                  • MJ_AVN
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Sep 2004
                                    • 665

                                    #18
                                    and a fine rant it is!
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                                    • lagwagon
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                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 8464

                                      #19
                                      I have done it many times

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                                      • LAJ
                                        Gingerific
                                        • Jun 2001
                                        • 5567

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Evil Chris
                                        Jay, those of us who ignore the personality based marketing don't want anyone to know we're actually getting it right. So please unpublish your article.

                                        I'm gonna have to step into Mr. Peabody's way back machine for that!!

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                                        • jimmy-3-way
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jun 2001
                                          • 3861

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by LAJ
                                          Do you make business decisions and partnerships based somewhat on someone's post count? Does someone's popularity and ability to round the troops as it were have an effect on your marketing plan? Do you take someone's word at face value without investigating every detail of their product simply because you are familiar with them? If you answered yes to any of these questions, then you buy into the concept of personality based marketing. We've all done it at one time or another, and given the relatively young age of our business, in some circles it only takes a matter of months to be the next personality. This is both good for business but at the same time is highly destructive to our industry.
                                          Quit whining and get your post count up and then we can talk.
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                                          • tASSy
                                            Spread The Pink!
                                            • Nov 2004
                                            • 8229

                                            #22
                                            most excellent LAJ, i look forward to your seminar!

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                                            • LAJ
                                              Gingerific
                                              • Jun 2001
                                              • 5567

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jimmy-3-way
                                              Quit whining and get your post count up and then we can talk.
                                              Fuck dude... our join dates and post counts are almost exactly the same.

                                              I won't be whipping my dick out tho to compare size... you surely got me beat.
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                                              • jimmy-3-way
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jun 2001
                                                • 3861

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by LAJ
                                                I won't be whipping my dick out tho to compare size... you surely got me beat.
                                                Well that is insightful and true...perhaps I shall read your article.
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                                                • Rochard
                                                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                  • 75761

                                                  #25
                                                  Great article and all of it very true. A number of people have come blazing into the industry and spend as much time marketing themselves as they do the product or services they are selling.

                                                  I'm guilty of this myself although mostly by accident. I attended a show with Steve Lightspeed and Tanker, both of whom knew everyone there. I felt like a "no one" and truthfully no one was intersted in talking to me. I ended up in a hot tub with one of AaronM's models as a way of "introducing myself" to everyone there. What I failed to notice is that nearly everyone, including JFK, had a camera there. The next morning the pictures were all over GFY. (My wasn't too pleased with me and we now have a "no nudity" policy at shows.)

                                                  But you failed to mention one thing LAJ that really bugs me about branding ourselves in our industry - the fact that some people have the same name as the program they work for. (Platinum Becky comes to mind here!) It might help at first when a someone new to our industry when they associate themselves with their company name which is "stronger" than their name, but a year on down the road they've changed companies and have lost their identity.

                                                  I'll look forward to seeing you in Phoenix LAJ.
                                                  Herschel Savage
                                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                                  • Peaches
                                                    Old broad
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 13933

                                                    #26
                                                    Awesome "rant", Jay

                                                    I love watching people kissing up to someone for business when I know for a fact it won't do them a bit of good. I figure they get what they deserve for being a sheep ;)

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                                                    • Just_Dave
                                                      Its almost time
                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 13009

                                                      #27
                                                      nice article jay

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                                                      • SoftFocus
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 255

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Rochard
                                                        But you failed to mention one thing LAJ that really bugs me about branding ourselves in our industry - the fact that some people have the same name as the program they work for. (Platinum Becky comes to mind here!) It might help at first when a someone new to our industry when they associate themselves with their company name which is "stronger" than their name, but a year on down the road they've changed companies and have lost their identity.
                                                        How about branding yourself with a city... LAJ your thoughts?


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                                                        • SoftFocus
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 255

                                                          #29
                                                          OOps slow server today


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                                                          • LAJ
                                                            Gingerific
                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                            • 5567

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by SoftFocus
                                                            How about branding yourself with a city... LAJ your thoughts?
                                                            Very good question. Obviously that is part of the branding of my name even tho many of the newer people in the biz don't know what my name means much less how to pronounce it, much less care.

                                                            But I think it is a good idea regardless if you still live in the city/state/region or not. It's easily brandable, easy to remember, and can conjure up images which can go a long way to remember a person.

                                                            I lived in LA for 12 years and my name is Jay... henceforth LAJ. Now i'm in Austin and can conveniently call it Lonestar austin jay... LOL... doesn't really matter tho because we all live and work in cyber space when you really think about it. Thing is tho... I'm still "LA" in a lot of ways... I was an actor all thru the 90s, still know the city like the back of my hand, am somewhat metro, am into fitness, liberal, and all that other good shit that comes with being an Angelino... and yeah, I suppose some of the other stereotypes that come along with it.

                                                            So yeah... I think it's a good idea.
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                                                            • Cory W
                                                              Deeply shallow
                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                              • 9133

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                                              Great article and all of it very true. A number of people have come blazing into the industry and spend as much time marketing themselves as they do the product or services they are selling.

                                                              I'm guilty of this myself although mostly by accident. I attended a show with Steve Lightspeed and Tanker, both of whom knew everyone there. I felt like a "no one" and truthfully no one was intersted in talking to me. I ended up in a hot tub with one of AaronM's models as a way of "introducing myself" to everyone there. What I failed to notice is that nearly everyone, including JFK, had a camera there. The next morning the pictures were all over GFY. (My wasn't too pleased with me and we now have a "no nudity" policy at shows.)

                                                              But you failed to mention one thing LAJ that really bugs me about branding ourselves in our industry - the fact that some people have the same name as the program they work for. (Platinum Becky comes to mind here!) It might help at first when a someone new to our industry when they associate themselves with their company name which is "stronger" than their name, but a year on down the road they've changed companies and have lost their identity.

                                                              I'll look forward to seeing you in Phoenix LAJ.


                                                              I have had likely 5 names in this business. I have had a name for Adult Check. A name for Adult Check's payment processing system / platform. A name I used when I owned MGP sites, such as Adult-Clips.com. I have a name for Weg now, and it isn't even consistent from board to board.

                                                              I am not here to brand myself, I am here to help create a successful program and contribute to the greater good of this business.

                                                              I am on this panel. I am very anti-panel. I can't honestly say that I am the right person for the panel, as I obviously don't see myself as a brand. I accepted the panel spot as I thought I was being placed on "viral marketing for consumers," something I spend a lot more time focusing on as opposed to my GFY nick.

                                                              I enjoy making fun post. I enjoy my personal blog. But I don't take any of it that serious.

                                                              If you make sincere contributions, the right people will know who you are.

                                                              Your name will not matter at that point.
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                                                              • LAJ
                                                                Gingerific
                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                • 5567

                                                                #32
                                                                I for one see your point Cory...

                                                                It does work in your favor tho that you end up working at high profile companies, go to a lot of shows, have a very distinctive look, and as far as I can tell are one of the only Corys in the biz...
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                                                                • LoriAnderson
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                  • 1713

                                                                  #33
                                                                  good article..

                                                                  see ya in AZ Jay
                                                                  Luv Lori xoxo


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                                                                  • boneprone
                                                                    Hall Of Fame
                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                    • 34415

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I am my own Brand..

                                                                    I am the Master of what so many people try to do and fail..

                                                                    I am the BP4L.

                                                                    Bow to the Power.

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                                                                    Learn about it kids.

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                                                                    • LAJ
                                                                      Gingerific
                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                      • 5567

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                      I am my own Brand..

                                                                      I am the Master of what so many people try to do and fail..

                                                                      I am the BP4L.

                                                                      Bow to the Power.
                                                                      Let me ask you this... does it annoy you to have so many clones or do you consider it flattery?
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                                                                      • Rochard
                                                                        Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                        • 75761

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by WEG Cory
                                                                        I have had likely 5 names in this business. I have had a name for Adult Check. A name for Adult Check's payment processing system / platform. A name I used when I owned MGP sites, such as Adult-Clips.com. I have a name for Weg now, and it isn't even consistent from board to board.

                                                                        I am not here to brand myself, I am here to help create a successful program and contribute to the greater good of this business.
                                                                        But your not a newb trying to brand yourself.
                                                                        Herschel Savage
                                                                        Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                        • Far-L
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                          • 6065

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Rochard

                                                                          But you failed to mention one thing LAJ that really bugs me about branding ourselves in our industry - the fact that some people have the same name as the program they work for. (Platinum Becky comes to mind here!) It might help at first when a someone new to our industry when they associate themselves with their company name which is "stronger" than their name, but a year on down the road they've changed companies and have lost their identity.
                                                                          lol, good thing you stopped at the license plate then...
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                                                                          • jact
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                            • 9134

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                            I am my own Brand..

                                                                            I am the Master of what so many people try to do and fail..

                                                                            I am the BP4L.

                                                                            Bow to the Power.
                                                                            I'm not sure the lore has survived through the years to be honest. Most people who don't know the history usually ask if you're full of yourself or high on meth.
                                                                            Free agent

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                                                                            • boneprone
                                                                              Hall Of Fame
                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                              • 34415

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by LAJ
                                                                              Let me ask you this... does it annoy you to have so many clones or do you consider it flattery?

                                                                              Nahh its all good..

                                                                              I have a Masters Degree in Health Care Marketing. I never used it.

                                                                              So instead I used it to market and create a brand for myself in this industry.

                                                                              Its all good..

                                                                              No other person or "clone" as ya call it is taken serious.

                                                                              I have the shit to back it up. The reputation to back it up. And the Name to back it up.

                                                                              Ive created a name, an image, a handsign that was created as a joke but became an industry icon, and even slogans like "bow to the power" or "I fucked her" that people relate to me with..

                                                                              ITs all fun and games most of it. But its marketing at its finest.

                                                                              Most people dont realize the thought thats gone into the branding and marketing. Ive been implanted in many people's heads in the biz and they dont even realize it.

                                                                              But in the end of the day I could buy and sell most of these clones..

                                                                              And I could round up the masses like sheep in a field on a whim.

                                                                              BP4L
                                                                              Last edited by boneprone; 03-21-2007, 11:34 AM.

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                                                                              Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
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                                                                              Learn about it kids.

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                                                                              • boneprone
                                                                                Hall Of Fame
                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                • 34415

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Ive never sold my sig to anyone nor paid to fly my flag with anyone.. People do it for free...
                                                                                Like its an honor or something.. When it fact its just branding. Marketing at its finest.

                                                                                Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                                                Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                                                http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                                                                Learn about it kids.

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                                                                                • tony299
                                                                                  lurker
                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 57021

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  excellent article

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                                                                                  • JFK
                                                                                    FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                    • 67369

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                    Great article and all of it very true. A number of people have come blazing into the industry and spend as much time marketing themselves as they do the product or services they are selling.

                                                                                    I'm guilty of this myself although mostly by accident. I attended a show with Steve Lightspeed and Tanker, both of whom knew everyone there. I felt like a "no one" and truthfully no one was intersted in talking to me. I ended up in a hot tub with one of AaronM's models as a way of "introducing myself" to everyone there. What I failed to notice is that nearly everyone, including JFK, had a camera there. The next morning the pictures were all over GFY. (My wasn't too pleased with me and we now have a "no nudity" policy at shows.)

                                                                                    But you failed to mention one thing LAJ that really bugs me about branding ourselves in our industry - the fact that some people have the same name as the program they work for. (Platinum Becky comes to mind here!) It might help at first when a someone new to our industry when they associate themselves with their company name which is "stronger" than their name, but a year on down the road they've changed companies and have lost their identity.

                                                                                    I'll look forward to seeing you in Phoenix LAJ.
                                                                                    I remember that night Well Rochard

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                                                                                    • Far-L
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                      • 6065

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      ok read the article... and Jay you know I love you... but my one criticism is something like that is pure fluff unless you name some names and give some down and dirty history...

                                                                                      The reps that pretended to be owners... NAME THEM

                                                                                      the folks that knew nothing about the net that spoke on panels at shows as if they were an authority... NAME THEM

                                                                                      the blowhards that bounce from company to company on resumes of hollow hype... NAME THEM

                                                                                      Until then it can only be a gummy insinuation instead of being an indictment that has teeth...
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                                                                                      • boneprone
                                                                                        Hall Of Fame
                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                        • 34415

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by jact
                                                                                        I'm not sure the lore has survived through the years to be honest. Most people who don't know the history usually ask if you're full of yourself or high on meth.
                                                                                        LOL.

                                                                                        It doesnt matter to me really.. I dont market or play the game like I used to.

                                                                                        There was a time and day for all that. That has all but passed.

                                                                                        I have a kid, a wife, and a life now days. Time isnt what it used to be. The people who need to know me know me. And those that dont I can always work my way in.

                                                                                        The whole BP4L thing started back in 1999 or so.. Back when I knew all the tgp traffic guys, etc, and shows were small.. TGP guys didnt go to em. I did. I knew the paysite owners. I refered and introduced many of the traffic guys to the paysite guys..

                                                                                        In an era before GFY and other message boards there was no bridge between the two. I was it..

                                                                                        I was making up to 20k a month just on referals alone.. Thats 1 penny per click of someone I refered..

                                                                                        That was inssane.. That was the power of "The Boneprone Family"

                                                                                        LOL.

                                                                                        Thats how it was all created.. I would go to shows, and people would be like "hey introduce me to your family... The Boneprone Family"

                                                                                        Heheheh. It was biz..

                                                                                        Then when GFY came along and shows got bigger, It became more of a game, and just self promotion..

                                                                                        But it was all good..

                                                                                        I did it right.

                                                                                        Now days its pure entertainment. For me anyhow.

                                                                                        My 2 million visitiors a day to my sites is all I need now days. Not Industry name recognition.
                                                                                        Last edited by boneprone; 03-21-2007, 11:45 AM.

                                                                                        Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                                                        Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                                                        http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                                                                        Learn about it kids.

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                                                                                        • jimmy-3-way
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                          • 3861

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Far-L
                                                                                          ok read the article... and Jay you know I love you... but my one criticism is something like that is pure fluff unless you name some names and give some down and dirty history...

                                                                                          The reps that pretended to be owners... NAME THEM

                                                                                          the folks that knew nothing about the net that spoke on panels at shows as if they were an authority... NAME THEM

                                                                                          the blowhards that bounce from company to company on resumes of hollow hype... NAME THEM

                                                                                          Until then it can only be a gummy insinuation instead of being an indictment that has teeth...
                                                                                          Why bother? We know who most of these people are.

                                                                                          PS - BP4L.
                                                                                          Make money offa that Asian honey - www.eroticmp.com.

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                                                                                          • boneprone
                                                                                            Hall Of Fame
                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                            • 34415

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by jimmy-3-way
                                                                                            Why bother? We know who most of these people are.

                                                                                            PS - BP4L.
                                                                                            Old Skool Jimmy....

                                                                                            Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
                                                                                            Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
                                                                                            http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame
                                                                                            Learn about it kids.

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                                                                                            • jact
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                              • 9134

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                                              LOL.

                                                                                              It doesnt matter to me really.. I dont market or play the game like I used to.

                                                                                              There was a time and day for all that. That has all but passed.

                                                                                              I have a kid, a wife, and a life now days. Time isnt what it used to be. The people who need to know me know me. And those that dont I can always work my way in.

                                                                                              The whole BP4L thing started back in 1999 or so.. Back when I knew all the tgp traffic guys, etc, and shows were small.. TGP guys didnt go to em. I did. I knew the paysite owners. I refered and introduced many of the traffic guys to the paysite guys..

                                                                                              In an era before GFY and other message boards there was no bridge between the two. I was it..

                                                                                              I was making up to 20k a month just on referals alone.. Thats 1 penny per click of someone I refered..

                                                                                              That was inssane.. That was the power of "The Boneprone Family"

                                                                                              LOL.

                                                                                              Thats how it was all created.. I would go to shows, and people would be like "hey introduce me to your family... The Boneprone Family"

                                                                                              Heheheh. It was biz..

                                                                                              Then when GFY came along and shows got bigger, It became more of a game, and just self promotion..

                                                                                              But it was all good..

                                                                                              I did it right.

                                                                                              Now days its pure entertainment. For me anyhow.

                                                                                              My 2 million visitiors a day to my sites is all I need now days. Not Industry name recognition.
                                                                                              Oh, I know who you are, I was just talking about the newbies who read statements like you entered the thread with.
                                                                                              Free agent

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                                                                                              • sicone
                                                                                                Retired
                                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                                • 18453

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                But you failed to mention one thing LAJ that really bugs me about branding ourselves in our industry - the fact that some people have the same name as the program they work for. (Platinum Becky comes to mind here!) It might help at first when a someone new to our industry when they associate themselves with their company name which is "stronger" than their name, but a year on down the road they've changed companies and have lost their identity.

                                                                                                I remember discussing this with you on a smoke break

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                                                                                                • jact
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                  • 9134

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Far-L
                                                                                                  ok read the article... and Jay you know I love you... but my one criticism is something like that is pure fluff unless you name some names and give some down and dirty history...

                                                                                                  The reps that pretended to be owners... NAME THEM

                                                                                                  the folks that knew nothing about the net that spoke on panels at shows as if they were an authority... NAME THEM

                                                                                                  the blowhards that bounce from company to company on resumes of hollow hype... NAME THEM

                                                                                                  Until then it can only be a gummy insinuation instead of being an indictment that has teeth...
                                                                                                  He ICQ'd me.

                                                                                                  LAJ ‎(3:28 PM):
                                                                                                  You're on my list, fucker.


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                                                                                                  • Peaches
                                                                                                    Old broad
                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                    • 13933

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by jimmy-3-way
                                                                                                    Why bother? We know who most of these people are.

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