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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Which is why I always used good guys. The sponsors who think any guy can be dragged off the street or will do it for cheap are wrong. I always told them "Why should I work with a guy who can't do it to save you a few dollars and give me a nightmare day?"
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I agree when it comes to males, but an amateur or low experience director would not understand that. You keep saying that a good director is #3 in importance on your list. Maybe if your list is a "one off" shoot with everyone is already picked for him.
But how consistent will your #3 importance director gonna be when he doesn't have the experience to know what guys to book? When to kill a scene? What are the girls strong points and week point when positioning them? How to deal with female talent when they are having a bad day? What positions are going to be shot? how many positions are gonna be shot? How to hit the nitch?
Male and female talent does not just show up and fuck. The director is the captain and what happens or doesn't happen is all on him. And you really think that a good director should be #3 in your list?
You are wrong, way wrong. You are not taking into consideration that you got 20+ years being a director. That everything you do is not even a thought. Booking, picking talent, identifying talent, identifying strengths, identifying weakness, etc.
Your list is OK if you are shooting a one off scene, but what happens when you shoot 25 a month for a year? How good is your #3 director now? Is your #3 guy gonna be consistent over time?
I would rank your director at #1 especially now that your director is the everything guy. He books males+females, books locations, takes pretty girls, sex-stills and chooses how the overall scene is gonna go. Most importantly he has the direct communications and instructions from the client on what is actually required in the scene.
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
How does it work today with custom shooters commissioned to shoot a girl who turns up and is not as good as she needs to be?
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Yes, and the client generally pics the girls to be shot.
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
I used to send them home, no point in wasting more money shooting something that won't sell. Do custom shooters do the same today?
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It depends. If the client is dead set on that girl, you do what ever it takes to make that scene work. And if you want to send them home because your #3 director doesn't have the experience to know how to make things work out, its gonna cost you $200 to kill fee the girl,(especially if its an LA Direct girl), $100+ for make up, $200+ for location and $100 for your assistant.
Thats $600 you don't get back ever. Who pays? the director, because the client is paying for a completed scene. (ask BM Bradly about that one)
The more and more i read and answer this post, the more and more i see how disconnected you really are from what is going on today. I live in LA and i swim with the big boys. #3 directors out here are called PA's or are jobless.
The best example of swimming well in a "sink or swim" situation, is Jay Rock. This guy was mediocre at best when he was shooting in Texas. He moves to LA and his game, his style and his quality has gone through the roof in all aspects of shooting. Why is that?? Because people in LA are that good, competition is fierce and if he didn't up his game, he would go hungry. Got much respect for Jay Rock for all of his successes and industry accomplishments. People do not come into adult and make shit happen in adult production the way Jay Rock did.
I really don't think Jay Rock and other good directors are gonna rank themselves as #3 on your list of what is important when making good porn.
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Originally Posted by Mutt
i've always said it's the male talent who makes a scene go or makes it a flop. Manuel Ferrara is the best stunt cock since Rocco in his prime and before he went 'extreme'. Manuel Ferrara with a chick who is a 6 or a 7 is a better scene that a mediocre male talent with an 8,9 or 10.
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You are way on point and a #3 director on Markhums list of importance would not see that.