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Old 07-17-2010, 06:00 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by gideongallery View Post
he wants me to do all the operational changes and cover the cost out of my share

so there is absolutely no way that is going to be true.

remember the 5k each is the profit i am making, because the base fee covers the cost of doing all the training setup.






there is no cancelation, since it a percentage so there is no need to replace old clients.
new clients is all i have to worry about aquiring.

each time i teach the class it grows bigger.

so it an arithmatic sequence (5+10+15+20+25.....)

so that kind of growth is not that hard.




first of all the building blocks are interchangeable/recombinable so the number of income streams is massive.

i have only taught 20 blocks so far out 543. Every year i keep discovering new blocks, and new combinations.

as a result the average income has been growing with each year. i don't see a problem with hitting those numbers




your talking about my time vs support peoples time.

i teach because if questions come up, you can't really have they guy say i don't know i will have ask someone in the company.

when the support and hand holding stage comes around, that kind of statement is ok.

as they answer question, as the bank of faq answers get built up they ask us less and less.

that why i only teach one new module a year (it generates n! new potential revenue streams so that may slow in the future).









docs offer is an uphill battle even if he did it my way.

each building block can combine together with each other building blocks to create new revenue streams.

each one of revenue streams have to perfectly balanced in a nash equilibrium.

Now granted i know some that work already (because of testing) and i know some that logically should work (because of what i have learned during the teaching and refinement process) but there is a lot of work i need to do.

it was worth it, mainly because the membership stuff that could be learned if we work together could add new building blocks to teach (muscians don't have membership sites like you guys do so adapting them to their market would create new revenue streams)

but doc took those advantages away in his re-write of the deal.



the money offered is less than what i can get from any affiliate program i want at any time. with no agreement and no downside risk.

the upside is a tiny fraction of the upside i can currently get from what i am doing

and if i hit critical mass, i will have valid publishable stats, which means i can simply come here and say. Here the proof, do you want me to do the same thing for you.

what docs offering is not only less than what i am currently making
is not only less than i can get from any other affiliate program on the market
but money i can get in the future once my plans hit critical mass.
So then let me ask you this: Why are you here? Most of the people on this board think you are full of shit. Most of the people on this board think you are nothing more than an self-entitled downloader who feels he should have access to any content he wants any time he wants without paying for it. Most people hear think your techniques haven't made you anything more than beer money. So why waste your time?

I could understand it if you were here trying to sell your service. But you aren't. I could understand you wanting to make a point by showing proof, but you never have shown any proof. But what makes me wonder the most is this: If you really have discovered what you say you have and it is so valuable you are willing to turn away from a deal that could make you millions why are you here talking about different parts of it? Contrary to what you may believe there are some very smart people on this board who have made millions and been part of some major online innovations. If they read your posts and start doing their own research they might just figure out what you are up to. One truism of business is that no matter how smart and talented you are, there is someone out there that is smarter and more talented.

So why bother? It isn't like you have changed any minds.

What else makes no sense is that (if I understand it correctly) you are willing to share your techniques with the full board with the stipulation that if Robbie uses them he has
to release all of his content into the public domain. If your techniques are so valuable why would you just give them away to prove a point? Also, there is no way for you to enforce this agreement. If Robbie uses your technique how are you going to force him to put all his content into the public domain?

It seems to me that if I had some kind of formula that made me a lot of money from traffic and users that almost everyone writes off as worthless I would keep my mouth shut, keep my nose to the grindstone and cash in as much as possible before the word gets out, the technology changes or the gravy train comes to an end.
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