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  • woj
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    • Jul 2002
    • 47880

    #351
    350..........
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    • Quickdraw
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2004
      • 1717

      #352
      Originally posted by jayeff
      Albeit slowly, more "names" are beginning to speak out against scumware operations. Although it remains to be seen how many statements will result in action (and of course some sponsors have stayed ominously quiet), I guess the biggest question is how many affiliates are dropping at least those sponsors who have said they will not stop supporting scumware?

      The board drama has its entertaining moments, but if affiliates will not switch from sites which steal their traffic and/or which support affiliates who are thieves, it becomes pointless to be critical of such sponsors.
      Seems a few are listening and taking action

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      • mortenb
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2004
        • 2203

        #353
        Combine his statement in this thread with his new thread here.. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=11151788

        He must be suffering from stress or something, because this shit is wrong.

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        • Hotrocket
          Confirmed User
          • May 2004
          • 1327

          #354
          He would have been and would be better off now if he would keep his mouth shut...he just makes it worse every time he says a word about it all...

          Like I said before..this isnt going away..its going to haunt him for a long time to come..all the promo threads in the world arent going to help...they will backfire on him just as they are doing now..it's just another opportunity for everyone to bring up this entire mess over and over again...and they will.

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          • webair
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2002
            • 8531

            #355
            Originally posted by tony404
            some people might call ?adware? Thats too funny lol


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            • webair
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2002
              • 8531

              #356
              Originally posted by European Lee
              Okay, so what exactly are you doing about it?

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              YOU STILL HERE? SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!


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              • jayeff
                Confirmed User
                • May 2001
                • 2944

                #357
                Originally posted by Hotrocket
                He would have been and would be better off now if he would keep his mouth shut...he just makes it worse every time he says a word about it all...
                Lars has surely done more harm posting - twice now - what amounts to "fuck you all", than was caused by the original threads that AFF and cams.com were linked to scumware operators.

                A lot of his affiliates, for their own reasons turned a blind eye to what he has been doing. Publicly sneering at them isn't exactly the best way to ensure their continued loyalty.

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                • TampaToker
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2006
                  • 5828

                  #358
                  Originally posted by NoWhErE
                  Thats the beauty of life: you always have a choice.

                  You made the choice to support adware.
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                  • will76
                    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                    • May 2003
                    • 18037

                    #359
                    Originally posted by LegendaryLars

                    So we decided to look further into the adware issue. While we are at least partially at the mercy of the programmatic techniques of the given adware companies we are already exploring and experimenting with technology solutions to try to figure out ways to reduce the number of ?adware collisions?.
                    Soooo you have been looking into the issue ?? what have you found ?
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                    • Doctor Dre
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 51692

                      #360
                      Lars went from hero to zero in a couple weeks... that's gonna be so hard to build something on that after what happened in the last 2 months.
                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                      • lawked
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 354

                        #361
                        So I think it's fair to say we can use adware to trigger only on AFF sites to open to their competition?

                        Seems like the same logic they're using to screw affiliates. Why not use their same supported technology to render their site to be ads generated for the competition?

                        Seems fair to me.

                        I know a few good russian programmers that work cheap to do the job. Any takers?

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                        • jacklaidlaw
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 728

                          #362

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                          • Daruma
                            Confirmed User
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 3494

                            #363
                            Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                            Lars went from hero to zero in a couple weeks... that's gonna be so hard to build something on that after what happened in the last 2 months.
                            he's a A#1 idiot... used to respect him - but no more..

                            RIP TD

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                            • QuaWee
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 5791

                              #364
                              fuck Lars
                              i luv mainstream

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                              • TheSwed
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 3483

                                #365
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                                • will76
                                  Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 18037

                                  #366
                                  Originally posted by QuaWee
                                  fuck Lars
                                  fuck Lars
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                                  • Kimo
                                    ...
                                    • Jan 2006
                                    • 11542

                                    #367
                                    this shit needs a bump
                                    ...

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                                    • cindyc
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2003
                                      • 110

                                      #368
                                      I think this was the worst public statement ever on GFY.. I normally don't post much but had to on this one.
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                                      • minusonebit
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Feb 2006
                                        • 7391

                                        #369
                                        This tread should never be allowed to die. :2cents:

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                                        • Tryme
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 596

                                          #370
                                          holy cow!!

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                                          • MicDoohan
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2003
                                            • 791

                                            #371
                                            Absolutely pathetic

                                            Lars you are the epitomy of scum. Have a shit life.

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                                            • Phil
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2004
                                              • 7659

                                              #372
                                              what would some call "adware"... bwaaaaha... I guess others call it givemeware I guess.
                                              Ask Phil

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                                              • BluMedia
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 3973

                                                #373
                                                I won't support any company using Zango or any adware period.

                                                Mark
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                                                • sicone
                                                  Retired
                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                  • 18453

                                                  #374
                                                  In loving memory of Lars...

                                                  I bump this thread

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                                                  • Manowar
                                                    jellyfish  
                                                    • Dec 2003
                                                    • 71528

                                                    #375
                                                    old ass thread

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                                                    • TheSwed
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                      • 3483

                                                      #376
                                                      Originally posted by Manowar
                                                      old ass thread
                                                      but still the fact

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                                                      • will76
                                                        Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                        • May 2003
                                                        • 18037

                                                        #377
                                                        This thread catching a little fire today.
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                                                        • Tryme
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 596

                                                          #378
                                                          shit lets bump this

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                                                          • MaddCaz
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                                                            • Mar 2006
                                                            • 9483

                                                            #379
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                                                            • Daruma
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 3494

                                                              #380
                                                              he's been missing for a few days - but my informant found out where he's hiding


                                                              RIP TD

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                                                              • Quickdraw
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                • 1717

                                                                #381
                                                                this needs a bump so the uninformed can see what AFF thinks about them

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                                                                • scottybuzz
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • May 2006
                                                                  • 14799

                                                                  #382
                                                                  ok strange as.
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                                                                  • Azoy?
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Aug 2005
                                                                    • 2178

                                                                    #383
                                                                    Originally posted by will76
                                                                    I wouldn't care if company A was stealing from company B, if they didn't have any affiliates.

                                                                    But when A & B get into a pissing war, the affiliates are the ones that lose. Not fair to the people who make the money.

                                                                    Hell personally, when a company has THOUSANDS of affiliates why are they even advertising in the first place, why are they competiting with their affiliates. I could understand if a company had a couple hundred affiliates. I know if I had a company that made millions and had thousands of affiliates I wouldn;t be buying an ads myself. Where can that company advertise that his affiliates are already not advertising? Everywhere they buy ads they are competiting with their affiliates. It's not like they dont make a ton of off all the branding that affiliates are doing for them or all the type in traffic they get. I am not just talking about AFF either, all big companies. It would piss me off if i go to buy ad words and the COMPANY has the spot above me,
                                                                    i bet you they buy ads on google adwords as well as other sites and while it may seem like the traffic is going to an affiliate, who says that they didn't create an affiliate account that feeds the internal treasury just to cover the fact they are sending traffic to them selfs.
                                                                    it is what it is and nothing we can really do about it except if you don't like it don't send traffic to them and find someone else as a sponsor for your dating sites traffic.
                                                                    otherwise, if you sending aff your traffic cause they are making you more money then other dating sites shut up, eat, drink, fuck and be merry.

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                                                                    • will76
                                                                      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 18037

                                                                      #384
                                                                      Originally posted by Azoy?
                                                                      i bet you they buy ads on google adwords as well as other sites and while it may seem like the traffic is going to an affiliate, who says that they didn't create an affiliate account that feeds the internal treasury just to cover the fact they are sending traffic to them selfs.
                                                                      it is what it is and nothing we can really do about it except if you don't like it don't send traffic to them and find someone else as a sponsor for your dating sites traffic.
                                                                      otherwise, if you sending aff your traffic cause they are making you more money then other dating sites shut up, eat, drink, fuck and be merry.
                                                                      I am sure some affiliate companies use their own aff codes for ads, if nothing else so they can track how well the ad does. It is also good for deniability if someone catches them doing something shaddy they can always blame it on the affiliate.

                                                                      If I had to make a little less and go with someone who wasn't shaddy I would. Supporting spyware is going to ruin the whole industry and hurt us all including themselves. How can anyone support them ?
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                                                                      • Quickdraw
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                        • 1717

                                                                        #385
                                                                        Originally posted by will76
                                                                        ...
                                                                        If I had to make a little less and go with someone who wasn't shaddy I would. Supporting spyware is going to ruin the whole industry and hurt us all including themselves. How can anyone support them ?
                                                                        Good question. Something to do with 'birds of a feather'...

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                                                                        • VicD
                                                                          ICQ: 304-611-162
                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                          • 13245

                                                                          #386
                                                                          Not good for AFF business this whole Z**** shit

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                                                                          • Klen
                                                                            • Aug 2006
                                                                            • 32234

                                                                            #387
                                                                            Originally posted by will76
                                                                            I am sure some affiliate companies use their own aff codes for ads, if nothing else so they can track how well the ad does. It is also good for deniability if someone catches them doing something shaddy they can always blame it on the affiliate.

                                                                            If I had to make a little less and go with someone who wasn't shaddy I would. Supporting spyware is going to ruin the whole industry and hurt us all including themselves. How can anyone support them ?
                                                                            Very simple,money is money,it doesnt matter which way is used to get it.

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                                                                            • jayeff
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                              • 2944

                                                                              #388
                                                                              Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                                              Very simple,money is money,it doesnt matter which way is used to get it.
                                                                              Not true. Precisely because a dollar is worth exactly a dollar, it costs you exactly nothing to care how you come by one.

                                                                              The damage starts within the company which does not maintain a high standard of business practises. Its employees see the example set by the company and follow its lead. It would not be human nature to do otherwise. In this particular context you can extend that to the company's affiliates. Somewhere down the line that translates into additional costs via theft, fraud and the like.

                                                                              Some of those affiliates are themselves sponsors. For example, I noticed a couple of days ago that a Silver Cash exit console goes to AFF. That sends out a negative message to their employees and affiliates.

                                                                              In fact, the major issue with AFF, cams.com, SexSearch and other large operations which work with and/or tolerate scumware, file-swapping sites and so on, is the message they are sending to the whole industry. Even those who profit from Zango must recognize they have crossed the line of legitimate competition and basically their activities are telling everyone that is okay.

                                                                              Which is about as short-sighted as it is possible to get, because while you may be holding a gun on someone today, only a fool tells himself the day will never come that the gun is pointed at him. The reality that instability ultimately damages everyone, is why every industry quickly moves out of the "wild west" phase.

                                                                              That transition is already under way. If AFF and the others involved with Zango don't want to end up as footnotes in this industry's history, they will have to bow to that inevitability within the next few years. When they try to accomplish that about-face, then they will count the real cost of their current activities.
                                                                              Last edited by jayeff; 03-08-2007, 05:44 AM.

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                                                                              • Quickdraw
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                • 1717

                                                                                #389
                                                                                Originally posted by jayeff
                                                                                ...
                                                                                That transition is already under way. If AFF and the others involved with Zango don't want to end up as footnotes in this industry's history, they will have to bow to that inevitability within the next few years. When they try to accomplish that about-face, then they will count the real cost of their current activities.
                                                                                I believe the webmasters that still promote them will be whining about their funds being locked up before AFF decides not to screw the webmasters that helped them become who they are.

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                                                                                • TheSenator
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                  • 13330

                                                                                  #390
                                                                                  Originally posted by jayeff
                                                                                  Not true. Precisely because a dollar is worth exactly a dollar, it costs you exactly nothing to care how you come by one.

                                                                                  The damage starts within the company which does not maintain a high standard of business practises. Its employees see the example set by the company and follow its lead. It would not be human nature to do otherwise. In this particular context you can extend that to the company's affiliates. Somewhere down the line that translates into additional costs via theft, fraud and the like.

                                                                                  Some of those affiliates are themselves sponsors. For example, I noticed a couple of days ago that a Silver Cash exit console goes to AFF. That sends out a negative message to their employees and affiliates.

                                                                                  In fact, the major issue with AFF, cams.com, SexSearch and other large operations which work with and/or tolerate scumware, file-swapping sites and so on, is the message they are sending to the whole industry. Even those who profit from Zango must recognize they have crossed the line of legitimate competition and basically their activities are telling everyone that is okay.

                                                                                  Which is about as short-sighted as it is possible to get, because while you may be holding a gun on someone today, only a fool tells himself the day will never come that the gun is pointed at him. The reality that instability ultimately damages everyone, is why every industry quickly moves out of the "wild west" phase.

                                                                                  That transition is already under way. If AFF and the others involved with Zango don't want to end up as footnotes in this industry's history, they will have to bow to that inevitability within the next few years. When they try to accomplish that about-face, then they will count the real cost of their current activities.

                                                                                  Well said...
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                                                                                  • tony299
                                                                                    lurker
                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                    • 57021

                                                                                    #391
                                                                                    I thought maybe lars came back to do the right thing guess not lol

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                                                                                    • spacedog
                                                                                      Yes that IS me. Bitch.
                                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                                      • 14149

                                                                                      #392
                                                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                      I thought maybe lars came back to do the right thing guess not lol
                                                                                      Look at all the idiots in their contest threads?

                                                                                      As long as there's newbie idiots, I don't think they give a fuck & would continue using spyware/adware traffic hijacking sales stealing methods.

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                                                                                      • candyflip
                                                                                        Carpe Visio
                                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                                        • 43073

                                                                                        #393
                                                                                        Originally posted by spacedog
                                                                                        Look at all the idiots in their contest threads?

                                                                                        As long as there's newbie idiots, I don't think they give a fuck & would continue using spyware/adware traffic hijacking sales stealing methods.
                                                                                        Those threads consists of posts from names I've never seen or heard and the AFF lackeys. I got a good laugh clicking through the newest one a bit earlier.

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                                                                                        • will76
                                                                                          Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                          • 18037

                                                                                          #394
                                                                                          Originally posted by candyflip
                                                                                          Those threads consists of posts from names I've never seen or heard and the AFF lackeys. I got a good laugh clicking through the newest one a bit earlier.
                                                                                          It seems like more than half the post in their threads are from AFF employees.


                                                                                          It really doesn't make sense. The contest threads cater to the people who likely don't make any sales. Think about it. If you waste your time trying to win $50, A. You musn't make a lot of money if you are worried about $50, B. If you wasting time doing that I doubt you are spending much developing you r business.

                                                                                          Sure they might get 100 people to signup from a contest thread but I bet 99 of them never send 1 signup and the 1 person that does will likely never produce more in sales than what they paid for in prizes for that contest.

                                                                                          Doesn't make sense.

                                                                                          It is funny when the AFF employees win, they post so much they win their own contests.

                                                                                          Andrew must have layed the hammer down and told the whole crew, you do not reply to any spyware,stolen content, password sites, etc... post in contest threads and that is it. And it looks like he took Lars' keywboard away.
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                                                                                          • pocketkangaroo
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                                                                                            • Jan 2005
                                                                                            • 8452

                                                                                            #395
                                                                                            Contest threads are not a good judge of anything. They are basically just a cheap way to buy a sticky for the month.

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                                                                                            • Pleasurepays
                                                                                              BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 11913

                                                                                              #396
                                                                                              here is a bump for "looking into it" as affiliates get robbed.

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                                                                                              • will76
                                                                                                Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                                • 18037

                                                                                                #397
                                                                                                Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                                                Contest threads are not a good judge of anything. They are basically just a cheap way to buy a sticky for the month.
                                                                                                True... but even their contest falls off the front page.


                                                                                                Now this thread on the other hand, we should keep this as a sticky for the rest of the year.
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                                                                                                • Quickdraw
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                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                  • 1717

                                                                                                  #398
                                                                                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                  I thought maybe lars came back to do the right thing guess not lol
                                                                                                  Whether they ever do the right thing or not, I don't see how they can ever be trusted.

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                                                                                                  • Quickdraw
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                                    • 1717

                                                                                                    #399
                                                                                                    Originally posted by GooSearch
                                                                                                    can't blame him,,, when i worked doing traffic for several big name sex toy comapnies .. we used 180 solutions at the time.. they requested competition urls and search strings.. i found when they got the deep pockets the companies just bid over everyone to keep on top...my 2cents
                                                                                                    I know Xandria and Somethingsexyplanet steal traffic with this specific software now. Who did you use to work for?

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                                                                                                    • tranza
                                                                                                      ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                      • 57559

                                                                                                      #400
                                                                                                      Damn, how did I miss this thread?!

                                                                                                      Lars actually admitted he used adware traffic?
                                                                                                      I'm just a newbie.

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