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Oh and I suppose him calling me a jackass first made much him sound much more credible. Stop reaching beyond the point that human induced global warming is a LIE.
Im an equal opportunity asshole... fuck face.Last edited by Splum; 03-11-2007, 11:44 AM.Comment
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OMG please dont hurt me with your Southpark quotes kid.
http://myspace.com/myboringlife
Haha NICE anyone that wants to meet Nick Sterling is OK in my book. HAHAHAHA.Last edited by Splum; 03-11-2007, 11:54 AM.Comment
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Apathy is worse than hatred.I really don't give a flying fuck about global warming. If, and that's a big fucking if, it is real, I'll be dead long before it happens, and then, being that I'm dead, I won't give two shits about it. And my kids? Oh fucking well. I'll be dead, and with that, comes no responsibility and no cares.
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To your corporations in the US? Is that why the European nations who have enacted similar or more restrictive legislation (Kyoto?) are gaining strength while the dollar gets weaker? I hate to tell you Americans this, but you are (once again) the last ones to get on the boat, while the rest of the world points and laughs.
These arguments of 'the cost of goods will go up' and 'China/3rd World will continue to take our jobs' are decades old. Yet America appears to be doing okay. I'd worry about your massive trade defecit with China, something tells me that has more to do with the issues you are concerned about than CO2.
I do find it interesting that you used 2 of the arguments I had predicted you would. Let's examine those:
1 - Greater controls on emissions would raise the prices on consumer goods. That's been said about every environmental policy affecting big business for literally decades. Who pays for the commercials and lobbying to tell you that? You guessed it. If big businesses spent the money on reform instead of lobbying, they'd be emission-free by now. This applies to a lot of countries, but especially to America because your policymakers are in the pockets of the big corporations.
2 - Countries who have less regulation will grow stronger. The cost of making a country cleaner is negligible. For less than 1% of the annual US military budget, auto makers could retrofit their cars with low emission devices. For less than 1% livestock farmers (livestock release more greenhouse gasses than automobiles) could work on reclamation and recycling devices. The amount of money to see a noticable change is so negligible, the only excuse for not doing it is ignorance, or the desire by money-laden interests to save pennies on the dollar.
I think it is extremely arrogant when Americans deride policies widely accepted by the REST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD and assume that because 50 other countries have examined the same data and reached the opposite conclusion, that we are clearly delusional.
In other words, do some of your own research. You will find that the cost of making changes to CO2 and other emissions is negligible. Your country spends trillions on defense and weapons. Making the air cleaner and the environment more habitable would be a drop in the bucket.
When all else fails and you realize that your leaders are more interested in protecting their corporate sponsors than they are their citizens, you can resort to the Cold War Era arguments that by weakening our corporations we are letting the Communists and Muslims win.Comment
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Tell friend to try exoclick.com.Comment
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i love how every thread splum posts in turns into a bullshit internet political debate.Comment
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However, I do have to give you credit for your unintentionally correct statement.
I found the article I was looking for. If you thought those Chinese were insidious, you were right! They are actually polluting your cities for you!
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/...0,661397.story
I am all for exposing lies that reap political gain for one group or another. But in this case, I have to argue that reducing pollution is a cause we should all be behind. It's easy to bicker over the details, but ignoring the reality that humans are (at the very least) making parts of the world dangerous to live in, killing off animal and plant species, and posing health risks to one another, is simply foolish.Only a decade ago did scientists in the University of California's Pacific Rim Aerosol Network help discover that the pollution crossing the Pacific from Asia was worse than suspected, with millions of tons of previously undetected contaminants carried on the wind.
In fact, on any spring or summer day, almost a third of the air high over Los Angeles, San Francisco and other California cities can be traced directly to Asia, researchers said.
In some European countries, endangering the lives of citizens via corporate pollution is a felony offense. Corporate leaders can be imprisoned. Making the penalties for screwing up our planet more severe is one step in the right direction to stopping all this B.S. spin and having a meaningful debate about protecting the environment.Comment
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Thats why they call it capitolism, the system only works if you let it work on its own without overbearing and unnecessary regulations.
You obviously have a completely different mindset, and probably one that doesnt have the American people in its best interests.
Human induced global warming is a lie and not worthy of altering our policies wholesale.
That being said like I mentioned before America has enough policies already in place to help with conservation, but it must not come at the cost of human productivity or advancement.Last edited by Splum; 03-11-2007, 12:21 PM.Comment
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You stupid, ignorant tosser.
As you clearly don't have the intelect to read raw scientific data, who then can read it to you?
For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com
(consider figuring out the email as test #1)
All models are wrong, but some are useful. George E.P. Box. p202Comment
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For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com
(consider figuring out the email as test #1)
All models are wrong, but some are useful. George E.P. Box. p202Comment
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99.99% of the time it has to do with clicking their own ads.Comment
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As you can't read, Splum, go watch Are We Changing Planet Earth by Sir David Attenborough. He's a scientist that translates raw science into a language even idiots like you can understand. Go watch his 2-part series.
For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com
(consider figuring out the email as test #1)
All models are wrong, but some are useful. George E.P. Box. p202Comment
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For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com
(consider figuring out the email as test #1)
All models are wrong, but some are useful. George E.P. Box. p202Comment
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I highly doubt that he was banned for his views on global warming.Care about me?
Who?
Me!
Who?Comment
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For one idiot Attenborough isnt a scientist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Attenborough
For two Attenborough IS a broadcaster(aka guy who gets paid to make broadcasts)
Just click on my sig to watch a movie that was made by REAL scientists who have no fiscal stake.
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For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com
(consider figuring out the email as test #1)
All models are wrong, but some are useful. George E.P. Box. p202Comment
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Oh Karen honey I am so hurt I am not in your Myspace top 8.
http://www.myspace.com/myboringlifeComment
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For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com
(consider figuring out the email as test #1)
All models are wrong, but some are useful. George E.P. Box. p202Comment
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So which one is it? Google hates blogs that rant about global warming or a hippie hitbotting your friends site?What do you think a fucking blog is dumbass lol. Show me a blog that DOESNT use news stories lol. That isnt the reason the reason is because some liberal hippie clicked on this guys links enough to make it look bad. Thats ok I just fucked a couple of liberal sites up by hitbotting their ads. Comment
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Don't worry - not even he knows. He;s all mouth with no means for action. He said he'd fuck up my clients by email his xx,xxx webmasters to let them all know I was a French anti-American liberal and to stay the fuck away. All because I didn't agree with him.
Well, a few months on and I still have a healthy 4-week backlog for programming lined up. Same way it's been for the last few years.
So, when he says he just hit all those sites with false clicks, well, it's all just bullshit
For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com
(consider figuring out the email as test #1)
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must be all that malware you collect, tracking crap to infest your brain because it's a great looking site from here.
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Now I know you're just a sigwhoring scum troll to get posts counts to your lame ass thread, because I've never paid anyone anything for my sites.Originally posted by SplumLast edited by borked; 03-11-2007, 01:10 PM.
For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com
(consider figuring out the email as test #1)
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i think al gore called google after digg called him and complained about the blog
it's some kind of conspiracyComment
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I'd hazard a guess that the webmaster was clicking his own ads and google caught him out. The site is not banned, just your adsense account.Comment
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Al Gore is such a hunk... oops i meant HULK.
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I'm not sure where you get your facts from, but retrofitting a coal powerstation with clean coal technology costs a damn sight more than a few thousand dollars. This one particularly method of clean coal costs $34 million to retrofit.
http://www.socialfunds.com/news/release.cgi/6406.html
And the clean coal technology which is leading the pack is coal gasification. GE And Bechtel are working on coal gasification together. When those two companies start working together, it's time to take notice. Bechtel have said that a new plant using coal gasification would cost $975 million compared to a conventional plant which would cost about $780 million.
Not to mention higher operational costs which will be passed onto the consumer. I think clean coal is a great idea. Just don't go around saying it's something that's going to cost a few thousand dollars.
Here in Queensland, Australia, we have enough coal to give us energy for something like 300 years, apparently. So clean coal technology is being looked at in a big way. It would be a non-issue if it were just a few thousand dollars per power station.26 + 6 = 1Comment
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